Royal Netherlands Army

[bora_guy]

I have finished modelling a West German combat team and I am close to finishing a Soviet Motor Rifle Bn. I am now starting on a Dutch force of company size set in 1989, does anyone know of a link which would be useful in creating a Dutch combat team? Panzerbaer does not offer a chart on this.
Also does any one play MBT? If they do is there a site that would have additional vehicle cards for the British Army and Dutch Army? I am converting this game into miniatures use (3 GHQ hexes per 100m) and would like to know if there is a link covering the Cold War vehicles of the late 1980's.

Cheers
Jason

[evildrsmith]

For MBT cards, check the consimworld forum (MBT is listed under Boardgames - Individual games and series - Contempory - Cold war - MBT/IDF).
Simply search for a named British vehicle, which should put you around the right spot: There are a whole load of new data cards including for the British Army (not sure about Dutch) posted by Jim Day around February 2005.

[av8rmongo]

There used to be an TO&E Yahoo group run by one of our Forum members that would be useful to your search if it still exists. Haven't been there in a long time so can't be sure but a search should turn it up if its still there. An excellent resource.

Also, another member of our forum sells .pdf ORBATS for many many different units in many many different time periods. There is a nominal charge but the product is excellent IMHO. Do a search for Micromark

Hope it helps.

[ferret701]

On my website, I have a pretty extensively researched OOB for NATO in 1989, including a very good section on the Dutch, including a number of TO&Es. It is for the end of the Cold War, however... so Dutch equipment updates were mostly in place. That said, it is easy enough to backdate to the late 1970's/early 1980s. On the TO&E side, I think the big change was the disbandment of the brigade AT companies and their assets (expanded) added to the Mech battalions. On the equipment side, replace Leo1Vs and Leo2s with Leo1s, and the various and assorted YPRs with YP-408s (none from GHQ, but acceptable alternatives available elsewhere). US GHQ infantry can provide you with the necessary Dragon launchers, though the individual kit obviously won't be correct.

Pat Callahan
www.microarmormayhem.com

[Mk 1]

On my website, I have a pretty extensively researched OOB for NATO in 1989, including a very good section on the Dutch ...

For those of you who have never explored ferret701's website ... I'm going to give it a very hearty endorsement and urge you to check it out. He has lots of stuff that will be of interest to micro armor wargamers. Lots of nice pics.

And then there are his Cold War ORBATS / TOEs. I watched the process of the assembly and vetting of much of that material. He got inputs from many veterans and historians from several European nations. I am not overstating it when I say the scale and quality of the material is not to be beaten, even by many fee-based resources.

As an example of the scale of the material, the NATO and non-aligned nations 1989 ORBATs (including maps of deployments) contain something like 285 pages of information! And that's just one of several subjects covered.

So if you haven't been there, you just GOTTA go check it out. Really a fantastic resource, and a guy who has done a great service to us all!


Cheers, Pat!

[ferret701]

Thanks for the kind words, I really appreciate it.

I'm at kind of a standstill on the project right now. There are 3 general areas that need improvement -- US Nat Guard and Reserve aviation elements, and the Turkish and Greek sections. I've got a (potential) line on the aviation stuff, but am totally at sea on the other two.

Oh, and I should probably upload the latest version. It has a significant expansion of the US Navy/USMC aviation sections.

Pat

[sultanbev]

In addition to MicroArmour Mayhem site, this is new on the 1985 Dutch:

http://www.orbat85.nl/

"Do a search for Micromark "
there are 2500 of them on the Wargames Vault as downloadable pdfs


Mark