Army Painter Dark Tone Wash

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Orion320
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Army Painter Dark Tone Wash

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I've admired the work of those of you who use the Arny Painter washes. I have just purchased the Dark Tone and before I go experimenting I've decided to ask you who are familiar with the product a few questions. Do you gloss coat before applying the wash? Do you dilute the product? If so, at what ratio of product to water? Do you brush on? Do you bake to dry/set? If so, at what temp and for how long? Thanks.
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Thanks, cama. The quality of your work is superb and that is what got me going in the direction of AP. I appreciate the quick response.
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Army Painter Dark Wash

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Cama

Your work is right up there with the best! I always enjoy seeing what you are up to.

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pmskaar wrote:Cama

Your work is right up there with the best! I always enjoy seeing what you are up to.

Pete
I couldn't agree more :D It's funny that you say I got you painting GHQ again Cama because looking at your recent Great War ships I thought "wow!" and then I bought some Army Painter Wash, to see if I could replicate your excellent ships!

That is one of the great things about sharing our photos with each other; it provides us all inspiration and ideas. Steve, I second Cama's suggestion to post your photos when you're ready.

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Post by piersyf »

Everything I've read or seen about Army Painter says it's a mineral based product (wash up with turpentine or similar) yet the OP mentions diluting with water... are you talking about the same product?
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OK, cool... next question... reactivation. How? Acrylics usually don't reactivate well with water. I've tried a number of different things including watercolour paint, Flory Models 'dirt' (works fine for larger plastic kits, a bit coarse for 1:285), Games Workshop, Vallejo... and so far only with the watercolour and Flory wash have been I been able to 'reactivate' and pull it back from open areas... I'm looking for a method to do German WW2 tri colour cams that don't kill the dark yellow...
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Post by WWIICentral »

My wash of choice is Vallejo (although we'll see how the Army Painter stuff works out for me). I mix the black and brown washes together with water: 1:1:1.

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Piers, for "reactivation", my method is similar to Cama's but with different paints/chemicals:

1. Gloss varnish the miniature before the wash. This protects for step 3 and it helps the wash "pool" in the details.
2. Apply the wash to your preference; if it's a larger model I try to avoid the open panel areas... if it's small then I just apply everywhere. Let this dry for 15-20 minutes
3. I use a small flat brush; cheap camel hair I think. Dampen (not dripping) the brush in Vallejo Airbrush Cleaner and use it like a small pencil eraser to push back or "erase" the areas of the wash that you want to remove. It works very similar to Oil Wash with Turpentine but without the harmful chemicals.

Disclaimer - you can't "erase" for too long, eventually it will start to pull up the gloss varnish and then the paint underneath... so be mindful.

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Post by piersyf »

Thanks guys! I never thought of using airbrush cleaner, but it makes sense... I've been using simple green to do 'deep cleans' of the airbrush, but the Vallejo stuff might be worth getting now!
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So is that AP wash on the CV9040?

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