List of Out-of-Production WWII codes / models

[AJ at the Bank]

Is there a list of out of production WWII codes / models please?

I only buy GHQ (of course!) ...and have some German 75mm Infantry gun IG18s... and 37mm Pak 35/36s.....but these don't seem to be in the catalogue.

Any ideas anyone please?

Thanks
AJ

[dougeagle]

They're in there.
German infantry and cavalry....support weapons. G65

[AJ at the Bank]

Doh!
Thanks.

Wonder if there is an out of production list anyway?

[Mortis57]

This is what I've come up with (it may not be accurate though and there are gaps).

World War 2

American
US03 M3 Half-Track APC Replaced by US51
US06 M4A4 Sherman Replaced by UK57 & UK65
US12 Jeep [w/ trailer] Merged with US11?
US13 M3A1 Half-Track Replaced by US51
US14 M4A3 (105mm) Sherman Replaced by US75
US15 M4A3 (75mm) Sherman Replaced by US74
US18
US25
US26
US31
US33
US35
US36

British
UK01 Crusader I Replaced by UK29
UK02 Crusader II
UK03 Crusader III Replaced by UK30
UK05 Daimler Armoured Car Replaced by UK46
UK06 Gun/Howitzer 5.5" Replaced by UK66
UK08 Gun/Howitzer 25pdr Replaced by UK49
UK09 17pdr Anti-Tank Gun Replaced by UK63
UK12 British Infantry Replaced by UK59 & UK96
UK13 Sherman Firefly Replaced by UK58
UK14 Universal Carrier Replaced by UK98
UK17

German
G001 Pzkpfw IB Replaced by G115
G002 Pzkpfw IIB Replaced by G113
G003 Pzkpfw IIIE Replaced by G142
G008 Sdkfz 251/1 Replaced by G099 & G107
G009 Sdkfz 231/1 Replaced by G137 or G503?
G010 PzJag IB Replaced by G119
G012 leFH18 (105mm) Replaced by G054
G013 sFH18 (150mm) Replaced by G134
G016 Marder II PaK40 Replaced by G116
G020 Wespe Replaced by G117
G021 GW Lr S (250mm) Replaced by G527?
G022 Pzkpfw IVF2 Replaced by G549
G024 StuH 42 Replaced by G084
G029 Pzkpfw III Flamm Merged with G027
G030 Marder III Replaced by G058, G089 or G112
G031 German Infantry Replaced by G144 and G525
G033 Sdkfz 251/10 Replaced by G099
G035 Hummel Replaced by G110
G036 Sdkfz 233 Replaced by G138
G039 Nashorn Replaced by G111
G041 Motorcyclea and Kettenkrads Merged with G040
G042
G044
G045
G046
G050
G051
G055
G057
G062

Russian
R09
R16
R50

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Modern

Warsaw Pact
W03 BRDM-1/Sagger Merged with W12
W05 BMP APC Replaced by W35 (BMP-2), W66 (BMP-3) or W88 (BMP-1)?
W06 BTR-50PK APC Replaced by/Merged with W21?
W09 Soviet Desant Infantry
W10 T55 MBT
W11 Soviet Mech Infantry
W13 BRDM-1
W15 T54 Tank
W18 Mi-24A Hind Helicopter Replaced by AC20 in Aircraft range
W19 BTR-60PA
W22
W25
W79

American
N001 M60A1 MBT Replaced by N501
N002 M60A2 MBT
N007 US AirCav Infantry
N008 M114 Howitzer (155mm)
N009 US Mech Infantry
N013 M551 Sheridan Replaced by N094?
N015 M60 MBT
N016 M48 Patton (90mm)
N018 M101 Howitzer (105mm)
N020 M60A3 MBT Replaced by N098
N023 UH-1D/H Helicopter Replaced by AC021 in Aircraft range.
N024 AH-1Q Cobra Gunship Replaced by AC022 in Aircraft range.
N028 M578 Merged with N027

UK/Commonwealth
N010 Centurion Mk III

German
N021 Leopard 1 A1

Israeli
N012 Israeli T55 M1967

Unknown
N011
N031
N032
N033
N035
N036
N037
N039
N040
N043
N046

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Any help filling in the gaps would be great.

[Donald M. Scheef]

Here is a partial list. Most of these have been replaced with newer models or merged into assorted packs, but I didn’t copy this information.
US18 = Sherman with calliope
US25 = 76mm anti-tank gun
US25 = infantry
US31 = M5A1 light tank
US33 = M3 White scout car
US35 = M3 half-track with 75mm howitzer
US36 = M4A1 81mm mortar carrier

UK17 = M4A4 Sherman

G44 = Pz IVH
G45 = Wirbelwind

R09 = JS-1 heavy tank
R16 = infantry

[av8rmongo]

If you want to see what is, or was, what go here:

http://tomstockton.us/tanks/285_armor.htm

[Mortis57]

Combining all the above information gives us:

World War 2

American
US03 M3 Half-Track APC Replaced by US51
US06 M4A4 Sherman Replaced by UK57 & UK65
US12 Jeep [w/ trailer] Merged with US11?
US13 M3A1 Half-Track Replaced by US51
US14 M4A3 (105mm) Sherman Replaced by US75
US15 M4A3 (75mm) Sherman Replaced by US74
US18 Sherman with calliope
US25 76mm anti-tank gun
US26 infantry
US31 M5A1 light tank
US33 M3 White scout car
US35 M3 half-track with 75mm howitzer
US36 M4A1 81mm mortar carrier

British
UK01 Crusader I Replaced by UK29
UK02 Crusader II
UK03 Crusader III Replaced by UK30
UK05 Daimler Armoured Car Replaced by UK46
UK06 Gun/Howitzer 5.5" Replaced by UK66
UK08 Gun/Howitzer 25pdr Replaced by UK49
UK09 17pdr Anti-Tank Gun Replaced by UK63
UK12 British Infantry Replaced by UK59 & UK96
UK13 Sherman Firefly Replaced by UK58
UK14 Universal Carrier Replaced by UK98
UK17 M4A4 Sherman

German
G001 Pzkpfw IB Replaced by G115
G002 Pzkpfw IIB Replaced by G113
G003 Pzkpfw IIIE Replaced by G142
G008 Sdkfz 251/1 Replaced by G099 & G107
G009 Sdkfz 231/1 Replaced by G137 or G503?
G010 PzJag IB Replaced by G119
G012 FK18 (105mm)
G013 sFH18 (150mm) Replaced by G134
G016 Marder II PaK40 Replaced by G116
G020 Wespe Replaced by G117
G021 GW Lr S (150mm) Replaced by G527?
G022 Pzkpfw IVF2 Replaced by G549
G024 StuH 42 Replaced by G084
G029 Pzkpfw III Flamm Merged with G027
G030 Marder III Replaced by G058, G089 or G112
G031 German Infantry Replaced by G144 and G525
G033 Sdkfz 251/10 Replaced by G099
G035 Hummel Replaced by G110
G036 Sdkfz 233 Replaced by G138
G039 Nashorn Replaced by G111
G041 Motorcyclea and Kettenkrads Merged with G040
G042 PAK 40 75mm AT
G044 Pz IVH
G045 Wirbelwind
G046 Ostwind
G050 JgPz IV "long" Tank Destroyer
G051 SdKfz 251/1 and /7 Halftracks
G055 SdKfz 251/2 and /9 Halftrack
G057 SdKfz 234/3 75mm L24 Armored Car
G062 SdKfz 251D/21 and 22 Halftrack

Russian
R09 JS-1 heavy tank
R16 infantry
R50

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Modern

Warsaw Pact
W03 BRDM-1/Sagger Merged with W12
W05 BMP APC Replaced by W35 (BMP-2), W66 (BMP-3) or W88 (BMP-1)?
W06 BTR-50PK APC Replaced by/Merged with W21?
W09 Soviet Desant Infantry
W10 T55 MBT
W11 Soviet Mech Infantry
W13 BRDM-1
W15 T54 Tank
W18 Mi-24A Hind Helicopter Replaced by AC20 in Aircraft range
W19 BTR-60PA
W22 T-72 MBT (replaced by W-81)
W25 MiG-27 Flogger D (Replaced by AC3 in Aircraft range)
W79 Samples Pack

American
N001 M60A1 MBT Replaced by N501
N002 M60A2 MBT
N007 US AirCav Infantry
N008 M114 Howitzer (155mm)
N009 US Mech Infantry
N013 M551 Sheridan Replaced by N094?
N015 M60 MBT
N016 M48 Patton (90mm)
N018 M101 Howitzer (105mm)
N020 M60A3 MBT Replaced by N098
N023 UH-1D/H Helicopter Replaced by AC021 in Aircraft range.
N024 AH-1Q Cobra Gunship Replaced by AC022 in Aircraft range.
N028 M578 Merged with N027
N035 M-728 Combat Engineer Vehicle (now merged in N-30)
N036 F- 4E Phantom II Replaced by AC04 in Aircraft range
N037 A-10A Thunderbolt II Replaced by AC05 in Aircraft range
N039 M-109 A1 (short barrel) 155mm SP Howitzer (now merged into N-38)
N040 F-16 Fighting Falcon Replaced by AC06 in Aircraft range
N043 LVTC and LVTR

UK/Commonwealth
N010 Centurion Mk III

German
N021 Leopard 1 A1
N046 Raketenpanzer w/ HOT Anti-tank missile Tank Destroyer


Israeli
N011 Centurion "Ben Gurion" Israeli 105mm MBT (now numbered IS-1)
N012 Israeli T55 M1967
N031 Super Sherman 105mm Israeli Medium Tank (now numbered IS-2)
N032 Panturion 105mm Centurion MBT (now numbered IS-4)
N033 Isherman 75mm Israeli Medium Tank (now numbered IS-3)

The only code still missing is R-50 - maybe it was just skipped or not released?

[Edit] Corrected some errors.

[kiasutha]

Had to dig up my old catalogues for this; right now best I can find is 1973...
For a start-
G-11- This has always been the "Elefant", but the original model was replaced many years ago.
Like some others, they re-used the same number for the new one.
G-12- You are wrong on this one. Prior to G-54, there was no light 105mm howitzer.
This was actually the long Kanone-18 105mm gun.
G-21- I don't know where the 250mm part of this came from; maybe a miss-print somewhere, as this vehicle never carried one.
The original model had the same 150mm heavy howitzer (model 13) as the current one. It was available "way back", then gone untill replaced a few years ago.
A bit more, then have to run-
Italians-back in "73", the catalogue showed It-1 and 2- The M13/40 and M11/39 respectively.
In late "74", It-3 was added; listed as an L-3/33. It was the first item to be more than 5 per pack, being 7.
At some point, I don't remember when, that line was dropped and later(again I can't give a year) replaced by the current italian range.
The original french line(also in the "73" list) had similar history- Fr-1,2,3, and 4 were, respectively, the Char B, Lorraine carrier,S-35, and H-39.
That from memory; but I think I have them in correct order. All discontinued and replaced later by a new line...
I may still have my first catalogue somewhere, I started collecting in "69 or 70", but finding it's probably the only way I could tell...
Regards, Jim R.

[Mortis57]

G-11- This has always been the "Elefant", but the original model was replaced many years ago.

Yeah I had that code.

G-12- You are wrong on this one. Prior to G-54, there was no light 105mm howitzer.
This was actually the long Kanone-18 105mm gun.

Yeah, I just assumed it was the howitzer I really should have looked at the picture - the long barrel is rather obvious.

G-21- I don't know where the 250mm part of this came from; maybe a miss-print somewhere, as this vehicle never carried one.
The original model had the same 150mm heavy howitzer (model 13) as the current one. It was available "way back", then gone untill replaced a few years ago.

It's probably just a typo (of mine I mean)

The earliest catalogue I've got is a scan of the GHQ Fall '73 La Vivandiere.

[kiasutha]

Mortis57:
Interestingly, the oldest I can lay hands on currently is my copy of the first issue of "La Vivandiere", which is Fall 73.
I know I have some older GHQ mailers and the lists in the Alnavco catalogues, but they are buried deep in our attic, so well out of reach for now...