Olfarty's strictly WW2 extravaganza

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That is spectacular Olfarty!

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Mortis57 wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2024 12:07 am
BPM did one
Some more news on 3d Gazza. My part-order from PSC finally turned up. Thus far, 4 Elefants, 3 mid-production Tigers - plus a bonus Sdkfz 7 & Sdkfz 11 were thrown in. These are all spot-on 1/285 scale. I have since removed them from the print-trees. The photo below doesn't do them justice - the Elefants (and the Sdkfz 7 & Sdkfz 11) are to GHQ standard, the Tiger okay. Despite the debacle with ordering I will be re-ordering when they sort out their problems.


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Olfarty wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2024 4:58 am
My part-order from PSC finally turned up.
That's great news for you. It's good to hear that the quality (at least of some) is up to GHQ standard. I'll be keeping my eye on the range to how it develops further.

Given my experience, and the fact that I have to order via a third-party, I'm extremely hesitant to order from them any time soon. It's not too much of a hardship for me as most of what they currently offer is available elsewhere.

As we're talking 3d, when I ordered those Italian tankettes from Scotia, I included a list of the Bergmann models I'd like to see them do (which I think I've previously mentioned) - so fingers crossed.

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The Elefant looks really good indeed. Won't it br hard to remove the print tree?
I think 3D can be really excellent : I ordered a few years ago some Russo-Japanese warships from War Times Journal when they were still printing. They are indeed very good, but I still prefer metal.

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foxbat wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:27 pm
Won't it br hard to remove the print tree?
Yes there was a degree of terror removing the items from the print-trees! It had to be very slow and methodical - using small scissors and a very sharp modelling knife. The Elefants & Sdkfz's came off the trees cleanly, however it was impossible to not slightly damage the Tigers.

And I agree. As much as there are some excellent 3d models coming out, again, give me GHQ pewter anyday!
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Those do look like very nice 3D models of the Elephant and the Tiger, Olfarty. I too would be concerned with all the delicate work involved to get those off the sprues/trees.

Like you, Olfarty, I am more of a pewter guy. I like the heft of the models as well as having to remove a few mold seam lines and some other minor stuff rather than having to get the 3D prints ready to paint. I also have lots of pewter models awaiting my paint brushes as well. I do, however, see the attraction especially for items that are not available otherwise.

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pmskaar wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:20 am
I do, however, see the attraction especially for items that are not available otherwise.
I'm stating the very obvious, however there is the need to shop around for the 3d items. Example: The unit price (MSRP) of a single GHQ Elefant is currently US $2.80 (excluding any postal charge). The Elefant from PSC cost about US $3 each for me to acquire - including postage from the UK. With a quick look on Shapeways website you can find a 1/285 Elefant which would cost US $10 - not including postage, and not necessarily the same quality as the GHQ or the PSC item!

I'm not about to start replacing GHQ Shermans or Pz IV's (etc) with 3d printed models, however some of the pieces I've acquired from Masters of Military and Butlers Printed Models are very nice indeed. Though some of the print material being used by Shapeways is a bit dubious - the material remaining sticky (as some resins do) - attempts to wash or undercoat have failed. With some items the material continues to 'bleed' through the paintwork months after completion - so much so it looks as though I've added glitter!

Although I never thought I would be 'drooling' over a 3d printed 1/285 scale model of a bulldozer...

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Hoth has suggested there are not enough buildings on the GHQ forum.

These are pretty nice (from Terramorph Miniatures in France at: https://terramorphminiatures.com/en/ )

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pmskaar wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:20 am
I do, however, see the attraction especially for items that are not available otherwise.
That's what I'm (mostly) getting. I've bought from both Scotia and BPM and I'm extremely happy with what I've got. One thing with the Scotia stuff that I haven't seen elsewhere is that they're supplying some Italian vehicles with both a printed and metaI gun/turret as they don't feel that the resin (gun barrels) is robust enough to stand up to actual gaming use. I tried PSC but the less said about that the better. I'm happy that Olfarty's has eventually got some of the stuff he ordered from them though - and from the photos it looks very nice. Currently though there's only the Dickermax that I want.
Olfarty wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:42 am
I'm stating the very obvious, however there is the need to shop around for the 3d items.
Agreed, but I guess that the same can apply to metal models too. There's also a problem in the UK currently that the two main importers of GHQ are phasing it out. Not that I have much GHQ - but I do have some!
I'm not about to start replacing GHQ Shermans or Pz IV's (etc) with 3d printed models
That's only going to economical, for me at least, if I had my own resin printer.
Though some of the print material being used by Shapeways is a bit dubious
It is strange. I assume that the modellers have to set up their models for each of the materials they want to offer it in. Otherwise, surely, every model would have the same material options.
With some items the material continues to 'bleed' through the paintwork months after completion - so much so it looks as though I've added glitter!
I think I've mentioned this before, but to recap. Although I haven't spent any money on Shapeways stuff I have been gifted some by Fred Oliver (as well as some GHQ items too). He was in the same Yahoo group as me but as a collector he only wanted one of every model and generously gave the others away. Anyway, long story short, I think the Fairey Hendon he gave me had that problem. I think I've solved it with cats of both enamel and acrylic varnishes - next time I'm over at the club I'll check to see if it's still ok.
Although I never thought I would be 'drooling' over a 3d printed 1/285 scale model of a bulldozer...
I'm tempted by the two modern excavators that Scotia introduced recently!

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Mortis57 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 12:30 am
I think I've mentioned this before, but to recap.
Yep we discussed this via a couple of PMs, but not publicly.
Mortis57 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 12:30 am
It is strange. I assume that the modellers have to set up their models for each of the materials they want to offer it in
My first attempt at purchasing 3d items from Masters of Military (MoM) was 03Sep21. That failed - there were only limited 3d items available through the MoM website and they would not supply to the particular 'foreign' country that I live in anyway. So I had to buy MoM 3d indirectly via Shapeways. In my case it was printed in the US. The first items were Bailey Bridge components, some D7 bulldozer variants etc. I was amazed by the quality of the prints, however, as mentioned, the print material was sticky.

As this was the first 3d items I had ever purchased (or seen in the flesh) I assumed the sticky nature of the material was fait accompli :!:

I subsequently ordered MoM via Shapeways four more few times. Consistently great designs, but printed using sticky material...

It wasn't until I saw the 3d Panzerjager Wanze on this forum this year that I knew Butlers Printed Models (BPM) existed. My first order from BPM arrived on 26Mar24. A variety of items - some good quality, some excellent. However it was only then that I realised that print material didn't have to be the sticky CRAP that Shapeways was using! I've now made a couple of more orders from BPM.

In regard to painting the BPM pieces, the BPM material is so much better than Shapeways CRAP, that I've even painted a few BPM items without washing or undercoat.

And now there's PSC, who are having issues with printing 6mm items (apart from dodgy service). Though, as mentioned, the PSC items I've managed to get hold of so far are good to excellent standard - using good quality resin.
Mortis57 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 12:30 am
Currently though there's only the Dickermax that I want.
As of a few minutes ago the 6mm Dickermax in the PSC website has the message: THIS PRODUCT IS CURRENTLY OUT OF STOCK AND UNAVAILABLE.

Meanwhile, as of 30 seconds ago the BPM website ( https://www.butlersprintedmodels.co.uk/ ) has the words: 20% OFF Printed Models in July - Use code "Summer"

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Olfarty wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:24 am
Meanwhile, as of 30 seconds ago the BPM website ( https://www.butlersprintedmodels.co.uk/ ) has the words: 20% OFF Printed Models in July - Use code "Summer"
Yeah, I saw them mention it on FB. I've taken advantage of it to get 5 towed PaK43s, 8 deployed 21cm Nebelwerfers, and 6 towed 21cm Nebelwerfers. The discount basically covered my postage. I might get more towards the end of the month if I finish the 1/600th Soviet Helos for a friend and thus have a bit more available cash.

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Mortis57 wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2024 12:14 am
have a bit more available cash.
I'll tell you what. If I win lotto, I'll send you at least a 100 quids worth of GHQ. There are lots of GHQ models that are just screaming out for your painting and decal applying skills. :D

In the meantime I thought someone might have noticed the Terramorph buildings by now....

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Olfarty wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2024 5:13 am
I'll tell you what. If I win lotto, I'll send you at least a 100 quids worth of GHQ.
I'll hold you to that - I have witnesses :wink:

But seriously, I do have some GHQ stuff. Mostly stuff that H&R or Scotia don't (or didn't) do or whose models I don't like - H&Rs Csaba armoured cars spring to mind for the latter.

Here's a GHQ M37 Battalion with M39s as HQ vehicles and CinC 50 cals. Currently no decals though :)
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In the meantime I thought someone might have noticed the Terramorph buildings by now....
They look very nice and if I'm ever in the need for more terrain pieces they are certainly a viable option.

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Olfarty,

Forgive me for my absence on the site and thanks for posting some buildings. They look awesome. I am definitely going to have to check them out, next time I am looking for some buildings. I have been so busy as of late that I have been absent from the forum and my hobby work.
Quantity has a Quality all its own.

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Hoth,

You are forgiven (although I'm not sure what you actually did wrong :D). I'm not on the forum everyday either. I too have got real world issues going on - which eats into valuable kit-bashing/scratchbuilding and painting time!

Anyway, the Terramorph range is small, however the prices are okay. I had a brief e-mail chat with the guy running Terramorph earlier this year - I think he's planning to expand his offerings.

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