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av8rmongo wrote:

Now I'm open to the possibility that I'm reading too much into his "tone" but it definitely tweaked me. If I'm wrong tell me but if, as I read it, he's giving me the big F U well... Just do me a favor and never do business with him.

In the meantime I'll keep up the search. I found a promising dry transfer system that might work but its about $200 to get up and running so its too much right now for an unproven technology. More to follow I'm sure.


Paul

P.S. Don - Put me down for one more vote for CV/CVN deck decals of all types.


Paul, it sounds like they were definitely having a "Bad day"..
Don, Me too...Put me down for one more vote for CV/CVN deck decals of all types
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Post by sjolly75 H4 »

It would have been nice if Seabat hadn't just disappeared - I sometimes wonder what they did with their materials. I'd love to have 1/2400 scale deck markings - not just for US CV/CVNs, but also for other ship deck markings (FFGs, etc.) as well as their hull numbers.

Paul - if you ever get your stuff up and running, you'll have a ready customer in me!

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Paul

I gave a lòook to the starfighter decals and I think that the answer you got is right cosidering yje details included in these decals.
. The main word Is "scaled down". In 1/2400 a line wide 24cm (a littlle less than 10") is 0,1mm wide, that is barely visible. Any line less than 20cm will be imvisible.

Possibly this can be avoided with ad hoc decals buit not scaling down decals for bigger scales.
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I have found a source for decals of WWII carrier decks: Pomroy productions. Theiir main field is sci-fi but they have two decal sheets for American or Japanese carriers (both with 13 decks) besides a sheet with deck numbers.
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TAMMY wrote:Paul

I gave a lòook to the starfighter decals and I think that the answer you got is right cosidering yje details included in these decals.
. The main word Is "scaled down". In 1/2400 a line wide 24cm (a littlle less than 10") is 0,1mm wide, that is barely visible. Any line less than 20cm will be imvisible.

Possibly this can be avoided with ad hoc decals buit not scaling down decals for bigger scales.
I disagree. Scaling down will necessarily cause most of what he has on his decal sheet to drop off - sure. Most of it is really unnecessary, but the important things such as hull number, runway ladder lines and possibly elevator warning lines would still be visible. To prove it to yourself do this: measure the width of the line separating the body of this message from the signature section. I think its plenty visible.

Consider this picture:
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Now I didn't take this so I can't state with any certainty what the distance was, what lens was used etc. But just taking it for what it is, we can see very clearly the hull number, the landing zone ladder lines and center line. Less clear but still visible are the catapult 1&2 foul lines and the elevator warning lines around the elevators. It can be debated whether these are obscured by weathering/dirt/grime or whether they are just not visible at this distance. Details beyond that aren't necessary.

Call me crazy but in my mind a person engaged in business who wants to stay in business or even expand their business shouldn't categorically reject requests for services in the manner shown above. Even if the answer is no - for technical reasons, for personal reasons or whatever a polite no is all that is required. Better yet you make a clarifying statement or counter proposal like "Hey at the scale you're talking about the only details visible would be... And the setup fee for a decal sheet like that would be... Total cost to you would be... Is that something you would be interested in?"

I contact, on average, 6 or 7 companies a year that don't normally work at 1/2400 or 1/285 scale but they have a product or expertise that could potentially make something I need or want. I've had varying success. On the good end of the scale I have an architectural model company working up a ship model for me (because GHQ doesn't do modern 1/2400 anymore) because they were willing to step out of their normal business and see an opportunity. Of all the rejections I've received I've never received one like this. It just doesn't make business sense.

To all: I'm sorry for hi-jacking this thread, that wasn't my intent when I started. I saw an opportunity to scratch an itch but it didn't pan out.

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I just took a look at the Pomroy web site. The US and Japanese WWII carrier decks look good, especially the camouflaged Zuiho. They also have a sheet of US and German style numbers that might allow showing deck numbers for additional US carriers. Pomeroy's site also has a section for "Custom Work," but this seems to apply only to Star Trek models.

I'm collecting primarily surface ships. Could someone with an interest in carriers provide a report of this product after purchasing and trying?

By the way, I also noticed a financial report on Pomeroy Productions. It included the interesting statement, "The company employs approximately one worker."

In my opinion, Starfighter Decals gave an honest but not well-worded response. I have had to turn down contracts when I thought that what was being asked was beyond our capabilities. They just need to work on their public relations.

Until then, I am adding the two votes to the Consolidated Micronaut Wish List.

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1/2400 carrier deck decals

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Well, looks like it's time for my annual wish for the 1/2400 carrier deck decals. I read the string above about the manufacturer who replied that they wouldn't be visible in our chosen scale. Most of us that paint and scratchbuild are to one degree or another, perfectionists, lol, or like to think we are anyway. Some of the detail would be lost to the scale I'm sure, but much would also be visible. I scrounge other decal sheets now for straight white lines, numbers and national insignia that might work for ships in our scale, especially the WWII Japanese and German ships. Many is the time I have paid full price for a decal sheet just to get a few straight lines from it. A case in point are the decals I used for my LCACs, a diferent scale but same problem, were pulled from a model railroad decal sheet. So my take on it is that the guy just wasn't up for a challenge. I talked on the phone a few years ago to Dave at I 94 enterprises in Hastings Mi about it. He never mentioned that it was impossible or would be invisible, his concern was more along the lines of how much of a demand would there be for them. I found him by doing a Google for I 94, maybe if we all contacted him about it, lol.
Anyway, my wish would be for such a decal sheet or sheets. :roll:

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Post by Donald M. Scheef »

To everyone who follows the Consolidated Micronaut Wish List;

In the past month, I have had a two-week overseas work assignment, a hard-drive crash, and a short hospital stay. As a result, I have lost all my updates to the list since about the Christmas/New Years holidays. I have been able to restore all the records for ships with six or more votes from the posted list, but I have lost all votes for ships with fewer than six votes that have been placed in the last four months.

I apologize to anyone whose votes have been lost. If this affects your voting record, please feel free to re-vote for your favorites.

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Hello Everyone

I would love to see the battleships of the countries of south America modelled by GHQ,unless they are already done and I have missed them?? :idea:
To imagine is everything........

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GHQ's GWB22, HMS Canada, represents the Chilean 'Almirante Latorre' as it appeared in the 1920s and 1930s. The ship had been built for Chile in the UK, but was retained by the Royal Navy during the Great War. Chile received the ship in 1920 and kept it with little modification into the mid-1950s. Hypothetically, there would have been a sister ship, 'Almirante Cochrane,' in the Chilean navy, but this hull was converted into the aircraft carrier 'Eagle' and remained with the British.

The Argentine navy had two battleships, 'Rivadavia' and 'Moreno.' These ships were built in the USA and had a unique appearance (superimposed turrets fore and aft with wing turrets offset diagonally, cage mast forward and tripod mast aft). There were few significant changes to the appearance during their lives. The only 1/2400 models of these ships that I know of are of resin by Panzerschiffe.

The Brazilian navy had two battleships, 'Minas Gerias' and 'Sao Paulo.' Like the Argentine 'Rivadavia' class, there were superimposed turrets fore and aft with wing turrets offset diagonally, but only a single tripod mast. 'Minas Gerias' was modified significantly in the late 1930s, with a single large funnel replacing the original two funnels. The only 1/2400 model of this class of which I know is of resin by Panzerschiffe.

Brazil also contracted for a third battleship to be named 'Rio de Janiero,' but decided to wait for a more advanced design. The original ship became HMS 'Agincourt' and is modeled by GHQ's GWB12. Construction of the more advanced design, to be called 'Riachuelo,' never started because of the start of WWI.

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