ACR thread, as suggested by Redleg

Hoth_902 · Post by **Hoth_902** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:32 am

Great Stuff Redleg,

Love to see units deployed. Really makes the miniatures come to life.

redleg · Post by **redleg** » Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:13 am

Hatchet Company is ready for action! I'm still debating adding mine plows to 3rd platoon like I did for D Company, but the tanks fit in the tray a lot better without them.

Almost done with the 2nd Squadron HHT. Then, with two squadrons, I can have a proper regimental softball tournament!

Hoth_902 · Post by **Hoth_902** » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:09 am

Looks awesome. Keep it going.

redleg · Post by **redleg** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:39 pm

I finally finished 2nd Squadron HHT.....sort of. The support platoon should have 12 cargo HEMTTs, but at the moment it has 6 HEMTTs and 6 5-tons. The additional HEMTTs are in the mail from GHQ, so once they arrive they will replace the 5-tons and the 5-tons will go to support squadron. Just like 1st Squadron, 2nd Squadron HHT is short a few vehicles and the maintenance platoon isn't represented since each troop/company/battery has its respective maintenance team.

Once I get the regimental HHT done I'll take a pic of 1st and 2nd squadrons together and I will activate the regiment, promoting myself to full colonel and regimental commander (my mom would be so proud!)

Hoth_902 · Post by **Hoth_902** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:47 pm

redleg,

Always fun to see what you have gotten done. Keep it up, an inspiration for my work. Thanks for sharing.

panzergator · Post by **panzergator** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:54 pm

Very well done!

7.62 · Post by **7.62** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:44 pm

Respect all the support elements, wish I had a fraction of those.
I may have to cut corners with some third party (1/300) support for now.
Good stuff redleg.

redleg · Post by **redleg** » Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:53 pm

I'm definitely cutting some corners with the support elements. I'm shaving the number of vehicles down and eliminating the maintenance platoon altogether. I use different manufacturers for some vehicles and I even tried making my own support vehicles (they were terrible!). I'm going to do 3rd squadron HHT with the same vehicles and the regimental HHT with pretty close to actual TO&E, but then after that I'm cutting way back. 4th squadron will only have the helicopter in it (no support vehicles at all, and I'm still undecided on the support squadron.

redleg · Post by **redleg** » Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:55 pm

I'm looking at the TO&E for the aviation squadron and it looks like the scouts were in "troops" and the attack helicopters were in "companies". Is this accurate? What about the unit of UH-60s - troop or company?

Any help would be appreciated!

panzergator · Post by **panzergator** » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:31 pm

Redleg,

I've been out a long time and haven't kept up with terms used for aviation units. It seemed easier when I was active duty, but then all those officers were either armor, arty, or tranportation officers, as I recall. No Aviation brass on collars.

As someone who just bought ALL the support vehicles for an H series tank battalion, I sympathise. It COSTS A LOT. 30 M151s, 21 deuce-and'a-halves, 6 5ton, 10 GOERS, AND A wrecker. And 6 M561, 6 M577s, 4 4.2in mortars, 10 M113 scouts, 3 M113 ambulances, 2 M578s, 5 M88s, 2 AVLBs (that's TWO packs, because you only get ONE bridge per pack. At least you get 2 CEVs, too, which I swapped turrets on to make 3 blade tanks for the companies). The support vehicles cost more than the tanks! I did use a different company for some vehicles because the quality was consistent, but the price better. That doesn't always apply, however.

As always, my suggestion is to have one support package that serves as an example for the rest. This particularly applies when you must go to Shapeways for GOERS!

The remainder of my H series battalions don't have that kind of support.

redleg · Post by **redleg** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:32 am

Wow PG! Did you buy it all at once? I'm wondering how much the package with your whole HHC would weigh? You will of course post some pics of your H Series battalion when it's complete right?

Once I get the ACR done I have some other projects in mind, but I think I'll just do the fun stuff from the HHCs (TOC, Mortars, and scouts).

Cav Dog · Post by **Cav Dog** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:12 am

Redleg,

All the aviation company sized elements in the ACRs were referred to as Troops.

N, O & P were organized as aircav troops, Q & R were organized as attack troops and S was the utility or lift troop. HHT also had an OH for the Squadron CO, 3 C&C Blackhawks and 3 EH 60 EW aircraft.

In 3ACR, the Cav Troops call signs were Nomad, Pegasus and Outlaw. The Attack Troops were Quicksilver and Renegade and the Lift Troop was Stetson. HHT went by Longknife, although the EW guys went by Quickfix.

redleg · Post by **redleg** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:14 am

Thanks for the info Cav Dog! That's a lot of Blackhawks with the additional C&C and EW aircraft. Were they all rolled up into the lift troop, or were they part of the HHT? And why did they have so many C&C aircraft? I assume the regimental commander would have access to one, but what about the other 2?

Thanks for all the great info!

panzergator · Post by **panzergator** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:28 am

Redleg,

I bought the tanks first, then tracked support - M88s, M578s, M577s and the 5T wrecker. I had the 10 scouts, but will likely change them to M114s. I bought it he 6 5tons. Then I bought the M151s and 2 1/2 tons. I am about to buy the GOERs.

Tried painting for the first time in a long time. Eyes may not be up to it and have developed a tremor in hand, so I may not be able to fulfill all my ambitions there. We will see. Will post as soon as I can. This may be a serious setback, as I like to paint the stars on, etc.

mike robel · Post by **mike robel** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:12 am

In the 11th from 77-80, there was a command and control squadron, that I think was only in the 11th. It had a HQ and what we called the Support Troop (AIR) which flew Hueys as I recall and the Attach Helicopter Troop (AHT) which had AH-1G and OH-58C. Sometimes we would do air mobile operations with the ST(A) and move cavalry platoons around a little bit.

In current Attack Helicopter Battalions, the companies are of course called Companies.