Merchant Ship list for consideration 17 Done

IRISH · Post by **IRISH** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:27 am

Just thought I would revive the post for consideration

IRISH

IRISH · Post by **IRISH** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:21 am

All this talk of the Titanic I thought I would give my Merchants list another boost.

IRISH

Schwerepunkt · Post by **Schwerepunkt** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:37 pm

I like the Asahi Repair ship model very much. The AMCs would be excellent although they were involved in some atrocities in the Indian Ocean against Dutch and British merchant men.
Most of the other large to medium tankers, cargo ships et. al. of all primary naval powers would be excellent subjects for models. Thanks for reopening this topic as it is full of good info.
Schwerepunkt

IRISH · Post by **IRISH** » Tue May 29, 2012 9:35 pm

Thank you GHQ for adding 3 more ships to the Merchant fleet line up.

USS Langley Lost on her heroic attempt to provide P-40s to Java

MV Clan MaCaulay along with 13 sister ot near sisterships Britian's Merchant fleet is evolving into a real ruler of the seas.

MV Otaio sunk on her trip to England with 13 of her crew lost by a U-boat She appears to have to near sister ships.

Thank you again,

IRISH

IRISH · Post by **IRISH** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:03 am

I will start on a WW1 list

IRISH · Post by **IRISH** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:04 am

I will start on a WW1 list

intruder523 · Post by **intruder523** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:26 am

Irish, I just took the time to take a look at your thread, I think I have looked at it before, but can't remember for certain. Very Impressive! The research that you have had to put in to compile this record had to have been a labor of love. I came here to look it over for a few minutes and ended up spending hours, lol. And still didn't do it justice. The Japanese, British and American merchant fleets are where I spent most of my time, then I branched off into tankers, and on and on. This is truly a haven of reference for all of us. Great work! Between you and Don, and all the other contributors, you keep us naval types going. Thanks.

Donald M. Scheef · Post by **Donald M. Scheef** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:28 pm

Just a minor vent concerning a pet peeve:
There is a difference between merchant ships and auxiliary ships:
A merchant ship is a civilian ship that functions (in a capitalist society) as a profit-making enterprise. Typical merchant ships are cargo carriers, oil tankers, passenger liners, tugs, barges, dredges, etc.
An auxiliary ship is a ship that is a part of the military performing a support (as opposed to a combat) function. In some cases, auxiliary ships may be physically identical to merchant ships (e.g., USN Crater, AK70, class transports are standard Liberty ships). In other cases, however, there is a distinct difference. For example, there is no commercial role for a ship intended to support seaplanes in a combat zone. The Curtiss (AV 4) class seaplane tenders were designed specifically for this role and are clearly auxiliary ships rather than merchant ships.
In previous recent postings, USS Langley, IJN Asahi and armed merchant cruisers are auxiliary types (even though the AMC were built as merchant ships, arming and using them as AMCs makes them auxiliary ships). Doxford, Clan MacCaulay, and Otaio are merchant ships.
Thank you for tolerating my persnickety attitude.

Don S.

intruder523 · Post by **intruder523** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:51 pm

Thanks for pointing out the diferences, Don. I tend to lump them all together but I see your point. The line gets blurred a bit in wartime I think when the Navys kind of commandeer some of the merchant ships, etc. Tankers come to mind, but purpose built ships or specially modified ex merchants would certainly be auxilliaries. My main purpose in this venue is that we would all like to see more models of them, lol. Thanks again for all your contributions and hard work on our behalf.

IRISH · Post by **IRISH** » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:45 am

Don,

I am completely in agreement with you and I recognize the differences between the private sector and the naval support. I was combining them all together as while this could be argued as well I consider the Auxs as Non Combat, even though they are armed, but then again in war time so were many of the private ships as well. I wanted to come out with a single list so to speak by nation of the Merchant and Auxs I think would give a great representation and balance.

Bill AKA IRISH

piersyf · Post by **piersyf** » Fri May 10, 2013 2:00 pm

Bump. Too good a list to lose.

IRISH · Post by **IRISH** » Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:46 pm

UP-DATE

GHQ has released 15 merchants & Auxs

UKN AP Queen Mary
UKN AK Gran
UKN AK Tower Hill
UKN AP/AK Otaio
UKN AK Clan MaCauley
UKN AP/AK Circassia coming

USN AK Liberty Ship
USN AO Nesho
USN APA Montrose
USN AV Curtiss
USN AVP Langley

IJN AP/AK Hakusan Maru
IJN AV Chitose
IJN AK Aden Maru coming

GEN AO Altmark ( Thanks Don, forgot this one )

This is a great start, I sincerely hope more will follow from this list

Donald M. Scheef · Post by **Donald M. Scheef** » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:14 pm

To list of GHQ's merchant and auxiliary types, add GEN16, AOR Altmark

Don S.

IRISH · Post by **IRISH** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:25 pm

Don,

I completely missed that, Germany has been revised and the Altmark added.

IRISH

Submariner · Post by **Submariner** » Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:01 am

Great lists and discussion. Thanks everybody!

Merchant Ship list for consideration 17 Done

Hint Hnt

Titanic

Well, done Irish

5 Done so Far

For Inruder523

For Inruder523

A haven of reference

Auxilliaries

Differences

Up-Date to over all list

Germany revised