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How is the back deck of the M 60A2 different from that of the M60A1and M60A3?
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Post by chrisswim »

PG, it’s not higher.
My GHQ M60 have same form.
A2 is lower, the turret rear is longer requiring lower deck.
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That's GHQ's model. In reality, if you put them side by side, thay are the same height. You could even trade them. The GHQ model contains the error.

Clarification - I am not referring to the CBSS bulge at the rear of the HULL. I am asking about the back deck. You cannot rely on GHQ models to answer these questions because the models are not always the most accurate, as I have discussed in the past.
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Ok. Let's get past the A2 back deck. The difference between the A2 and the other models of the M60 series is THERE IS NO TRAVEL LOCK. The A2 doesn't need it because the barrel isn't long enough to provide sufficient moment for the turret to break free of the ring lock, and, in any case, the main gun barrel is not long enough to engage it. Here, the GHQ model is incorrect, but it is too small a detail to fuss about.

We will move to the next question...

It is 1976. You are a US battalion task force commander in West Germany. One of your companies has been cross-attached to form another task force. You have received two companies in cross-attachment, so you have 4 line companies. You are at full strength, no losses. You have THIRTY-FOUR tanks. DO YOU COMMAND A MECHANIZED INFANTRY TASK FORCE OR AN ARMOR TASK FORCE?
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If I started as a mech infantry that is what my TF is with armor attached.
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I did not tell you you started as mech infantry. "If...." is not an answer.
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My Guideon is blue sir!
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OK, COLONEL CAV DOG! What gives it away?
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PG: It is an answer, not accurate based upon your response.
It is a Mechanized Infantry unit.
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How do you know it is not an armor task force?
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With the information given that I had 34 tanks, two companies of 17, each with 3 platoons of 5. You provided info on what I received and there is not the tanks for the Battalion commander and XO.
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The graphic on the map for this unit is that of a mech infantry task force. It gave up one mech company and received two 17-tank companies in attachment, for a total THIRTY FOUR tanks. In 1976, divisions in Germany worked from an H series MTOE. The H series tank battalion had 54 tanks, which included THREE tanks in the battalion headquarters section (not 2, as in the J series). Had this been an Armor task force, the tank total would have been THIRTY-SEVEN. When the brigade commander looks at that map symbol, he knows that particular task force has 34 tanks and also knows that there are two company 81mms mortar sections, 2 company anti tank sections, plus two anti-tank platoons from its CSC still with that task force (the third having gone with the detached company), unless there are indications they are elsewhere.
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PG, so how did Atomic Annie operate? In batteries? I can't find anything on the organization, just that 20 were made and they were deployed to Korea and Germany.

And let me make anther guess about the 7th dude in a British gun crew - to hold the horses during firing?

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You are correct about the 7th man,although Brit artillery did not use horses even in WWII.

Atomic Annies operated in batteries of two.

Trying to keep things interesting on the forum, as well as encourage the study of military and general history. Surely some curiosity will arise?

Any takers on Topside and Bottomside?

With permission to crennelate, what may you do?

Who damned the torpedos, to what weapon did he refer, on what occasion?

What is a "testudo?"

if your command is headed toward the front with you leading mounted on a horse, and you encounter men from your side running toward you, glancing anxiously over their shoulders, from what are they fleeing?
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if your command is headed toward the front with you leading mounted on a horse, and you encounter men from your side running toward you, glancing anxiously over their shoulders, from what are they fleeing?

Clearly the answer to this is: GODZILLA!
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