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Post by fullmetaljacket »

Thanks Chris for the complements. your work has always impressed me very much to. Especially the rigging of ships OMG havent had the nerve to try that yet. If you could would appreciate you listing or emailing me some good reference books for paint schemes for ships. We mainly do world war one era, but starting to get into world war two also. Yes the battle turned out great I will post the AAR soon promise. Now i need to finsh several ships for Gen-Con also putting on the Battle of Cornel November 1914.

For the paint question on the sea I used good old crylon blue spray paint straight out of the can. No runs no drips no errors!

As for the highlighting i usually put on a black Ink wash all over the model first let dry good, then go back over any spots that i may want to darken even more. Then i dry brush the base coat over the entire model really pulls out the detail on the ships.

Not quit mastered painting like you and others on this site, but getting better with each one i do.

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Post by fullmetaljacket »

Qucik question for you all i forgot to ask last night.

Does anyone make the world war one nurnberg in 1/2400 scale? I cant find one anyone where. Any help would be greatly appreicated.

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Post by Donald M. Scheef »

I assume you mean Nurnberg (i) of the 1906 Konigsberg class and not the 1916 replacement.

To the best of my knowledge, no one makes a 1/2400 model of this ship. However, GHQ GWG11, CL Emden, is a very close approximation.

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ok ty for the info and yes the 1906 is the one i meant sorry for the wrong spelling.

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Fullmetaljacket,

Some of the resources I have used to paint my ships are:

Snyder & Short's website www.shipcamouflage.com
They sell paint chip sets for all the major combatants, plus a good array of books covering naval camo. Now that I am getting ready to do the USN, I noticed they also have an online section of the website with tons of USN camo schemes outlined and info on which ship wore which one and when it wore it.

USN:
Warship Perspectives series by W. R. Press, Inc.
Warships in Action series by Squadron/Signal
Naval Historical Center (www.history.naval.mil) - there is a section of the website that contains original drawings of ships from the yards with the schemes that were being applied to specific ships or classes of ships during WWII

RN:
Warship Perspectives series by W. R. Press, Inc. - Look at the four volume set by Alan Raven - he is the master and this set has compiled a huge amount of info on the hard to find Royal Navy camo schemes. The RN had more variety in camo than probably all the other countries combined - ship's captains decided every detail of how their ship was to be painted - the Admiralty could only offer guidelines. Another book in the series I picked up is on the Flower class corvettes - makes you want to build dozens of them.
King George V Class Battleships by Roger Chesneau in the Ship Craft series by Chatham Publishing - only covers KGV class, but still a must have for the wealth of modeler-centric knowledge it contains.

IJN:
I have not researched them yet, trying to convince a friend of mine to build the Imperial Japanese Navy so I can concentrate on the USN. But I am attracted to those cool Japanese carriers. I did pick up an excellent book on organization of the carriers and their air groups called: Japanese Military Aircraft - Carrier-based aircraft, 1922-1945. Doesn't cover painting of the ships, but does cover painting of aircraft right down to the Chutai/Shotai level for each air group. It is definitely not originally written in English as the translation appears to be from Italian or Spanish and it almost feels like they went and used a free web service to do it.

KM:
Warships in Action series by Squadron/Signal
Kriegsmarine U-Boats 1939-1945 by Chris Bishop (Amber Books) - this is the new U-Boat bible - covers paint schemes, operations, organization, tactics, combat records, commanders,...
U-Boot VII by AJ Press (Polish/English book)
Sea Eagles vol. I and II - Luftwaffe Anti-shipping units by Chris Goss (Ian Allan Publishing) - you've gotta buy and paint those awesome GHQ 1/2400th scale planes!

RM:
La Mimetizzazione Delle Navi Italiane 1940-1945 (Italian Navy Camouflage 1940-1945) by Erminio Bagnasco and Maurizio Brescia, edited by Ermanno Albertelli (Tuttostoria press). This book is not in English yet but holy cow! Language does NOT matter - get this book while it is in print in any language. I don't know Italian but I could read this book and figure out exactly what they were talking about and there are soooo many line drawings and pictures. I basically figured out, if they don't have a line drawing of a camo scheme for an Italian ship, it is because that ship didn't survive long enough to get camo. This company has many more great books, but I'm hoping those will be published in English as they are more on text, less on pictures.

Universal Sources:
www.modelwarships.com - go to the gallery section
The Painter's Guide to WWII Naval Camouflage by Patrick Hreachmack (Clash of Arms Publishers, Inc.)

There are many, many more, but that should get you started.

Chris

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GWR6 Price

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I was disappointed to see an apparent rise in pricing standards for Imperator Pavel. At $13.50, this model is significantly more costly than models of its nautical equals (GWB16, King Edward, GWG6 Pommern, and GWS6 Minnesota), all of which are priced at $9.95. Aside from the general trend of inflation (the price of everything is going up), is there a reason that GWR6 is more expensive?

{The price originally posted was incorrect. GHQ has corrected this to match the other pre-Dreadnought battleships.}

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It's been a while since I posted any ships out here. This is the last group of ships I have for the Royal Navy. I painted up HMS London, HMAS Perth, and nine E and F class destroyers.

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HMS London as she appeared in January 1942. She is wearing a base coat of 507C with MS1 and B5 applied. Horizontal surfaces are dark gray. She didn't come with any masts so I had to build those from scratch.

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Overhead starboard view of HMS London

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Overhead port view of HMS London

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HMAS Perth as she appeared in February 1942 during the Battle of the Java Sea. I have given her a new style Pacific Ocean colored base as opposed to an Atlantic style base. She also came without any masts so I had to scratch build those. She is wearing a base coat of 507C with 507A applied over that. Horizontal surfaces are in dark gray.

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Overhead starboard view of HMAS Perth

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Overhead port view of HMAS Perth

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E class destroyer HMS Echo in 507C/MS1/B5, she has managed to camouflage herself right into the base in this picture - sorry about that

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E class destroyer HMS Electra in 507C/MS4/B5

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E class destroyer HMS Escort in 507C/MS1/B5

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E class destroyer HMS Express in overall 507C

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F class destroyer HMS Foresight in Western Approaches scheme of white with WA Blue and WA Green

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F class destroyer HMS Forester in Western Approaches scheme of white with WA Blue and WA Green

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F class destroyer HMS Foxhound in Western Approaches scheme of white with WA Blue and WA Green

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F class destroyer HMS Fury in Western Approaches scheme of white with WA Blue

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GHQ went to so much trouble to build us these wonderful 1/2400th scale aircraft. I have tried to photograph them as best I can but these little buggers are so tiny my camera (actually me) is having a heck of time getting them in focus.

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A Fw-200 Condor of I/KG40 in typical Luftwaffe splinter pattern of RLM 70/71 with undersides in RLM 65. I have mounted her on a 1/2 inch base that I use to represent recce aircraft.

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A flight of three Do-217E bombers of I/KG2 mounted on a 3/4 inch standard attack base.

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A flight of three Ju-87 Stukas of 3 staffel (note the yellow spinners), Tragergruppe 186 from the Graf Zeppelin

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A Bv-138 of Kustenfliegergruppe 506

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A Catalina in Coastal Command service

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Another Catalina in Coastal Command service

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A Short Sunderland in Coastal Command service

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Fleet Air Arm Supermarine Seafires from HMS Victorious

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RAF Bristol Beaufort bombers on their way to bomb the Scharnhorst and Gneisenau in their port in France.

Sorry about the blurry imagery, I'm working on it.

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Chris

Great work on the ships. I really appreciate the time and effort it takes to get the camo right on some of these ships and you do a great job on the Brits. I especially like the way you do your water and the I really like the color. Excellent work!

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Post by fullmetaljacket »

Hey Chris

Nice work amazing detail on the planes! Sorry I was away for a few days had a funeral i had to attend.

As for being able to take steady pictures of your work. I dont know if you have tried this but most all digital cameras now have a timer on them. I usually take mine with the timer function that way you dont get the unsteady hand shake and blury picture.

Also Chris thanks for all the info on the ship data and camo schemes. Most of my navy is circa world war One. So, its harder to find info on camo and paint charts for the ships. Starting to get into world war two era more though. World war one era just has such a variety of ships and countries to choose from. You can really tell in world war two that the nations learned their lesson in the first world war, by making all their ships centerline turrets.

Any way i have several ships to get done before Gen-Con and my battle of cornel secenario.

Once again your ships look great Chris. :D

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Post by jb »

Chris and FMJ,
Great job on the ships and aircraft. Its too bad there are not decals out for 1/2400 aircraft...
Chris, I especially love the paint schemes you did with the "E" class DDs, very effective with your seascape basing. BTW what do you use for your seascape?
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Post by cbovill »

Thanks for the compliments guys! The bases for the ships are sheet styrene plastic cut to size with Flex-Paste applied to surface and press my finger into it to create the waves on the base. Then paint up with base color, highlight waves and hit it with lots of gloss to finish.

Chris

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Post by Mikee »

I was wondering - would there be any interest in setting up a topic on micronauts "kit-bashing" (modifying GHQ models to other versions/ships)? For example; I took several King George V battleships and used parts from other ships to individualize a later version of KGV, and Duke of York, Anson and Howe (and plan on doing PoW when I get a little more info) In a topic like this, someone (like me) could describe what he/she did, where parts came from, problems, etc. As I say, I did the KGV battleships, mostly because I wanted to paint the KGV, Anson & Howe in individualized versions of their nearly same camouflage pattern.

Right now I've kinda started work on updating an Atlanta class CLAA with 40 mm guns, and modifying an ** CENSORED ** class CV to the Bennington (the stern layout, with two quad 40 mms is the problem here.)

Any interest?

Mikee

PS: FYI, the fore topmast of the KGV is a real problem. It breaks off real easy, and the join is so small that it's a problem to successfully glue back on. My Anson's fore topmast is so ready to pop off again that I'm afraid to even look at it crosseyed.

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Mikee,

That would be a great idea. i think something like that existed once but its worth doing over.

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I just started collecting 1/2400 ships and really like what you all have posted. I hope I can translate some of these pics into the paint job I can do. Would it be possible to get a copy of the template used to label the ships?

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