I'm taking my cue from 8ball and his Infantry Only Thread on this one. I'm thinking that this one could be a wishlist, share your naval battles, and show us yer stuff thread but specifically dedicated to WW1 and WW2 Micronauts. I'll post pics of my Regia Marina as soon as I finish with my move and my new computer shows up. Hopefully early next week Very Happy . Just as cbovill loves seeing infantry move into action, there is nothing like seeing ones beloved fleet close with the enemy for action. I have no recent naval actions to report on unfortunately. As for Micronauts I'd like to see (my apologies for being redundant):
CA Pola
Gabbiano class corvettes
Italian 1/2400 scale aircraft
Italian Adua class subs
Italian Ocean going subs
MAS/MS torpedo boats
More Italian destroyers!
I posted the above 12 years ago. Apart from the Pola and aircraft, which I thank you for, let's get something else from the list for Italy.
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Consolidated Micronaut Wish List Summary
Replaced by updated list 2018-06-21.
Don S.
Replaced by updated list 2018-06-21.
Don S.
Last edited by Donald M. Scheef on Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:01 am, edited 1 time in total.
"When a fire starts to burn,
here's a lesson you must learn:
something-something and you'll see
you'll avoid catastrophe."
D'oh!
here's a lesson you must learn:
something-something and you'll see
you'll avoid catastrophe."
D'oh!
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My top 20 – GHQ Micronauts wish list:
1. WWII Japan battleship Fuso (late-war appearance)
2. WWII Japan destroyer Akatsuki class
3. WWII UK A & E–I class destroyer leaders (Codrington, Exmouth, Faulkner, Grenville, Hardy, and Inglefield)
4. WWII UK light cruisers Scylla and Charybdis (modified Dido with four twin 4.5 inch AA guns)
5. WWII UK heavy cruiser London class (unmodified - Devonshire, Shropshire, Suss_ex)
6. WWII UK light cruisers modified Colony class (Ceylon, Uganda, and Newfoundland)
7. WWII UK light cruiser Coventry/Curlew (anti-aircraft conversion)
8. WWII Soviet destroyer Type 7U Class
9. WWII Italy destroyer Maestrale class
10. WWII Italy destroyer Freccia class
11. WWII Italy destroyer Oriani class
12. WWII Italy destroyer Folgore class
13. WWII UK battleship Malaya, 1936-42 appearance
14. WWII UK light cruiser Emerald, as in Aug. 1934 to 1940
15. WWII Japan destroyer Shimakaze
16. WWII Japan battleship A-150 ‘super-Yamato’ design (# 798, 799)
17. French seaplane carrier Commandant Teste
18. WWII UK destroyer “V & W†classes, long-range escort conversions
19. WWII UK light cruiser Delhi, anti-aircraft conversion
20. WWII France battleship Courbet/Paris, 1935-1940 appearance
1. WWII Japan battleship Fuso (late-war appearance)
2. WWII Japan destroyer Akatsuki class
3. WWII UK A & E–I class destroyer leaders (Codrington, Exmouth, Faulkner, Grenville, Hardy, and Inglefield)
4. WWII UK light cruisers Scylla and Charybdis (modified Dido with four twin 4.5 inch AA guns)
5. WWII UK heavy cruiser London class (unmodified - Devonshire, Shropshire, Suss_ex)
6. WWII UK light cruisers modified Colony class (Ceylon, Uganda, and Newfoundland)
7. WWII UK light cruiser Coventry/Curlew (anti-aircraft conversion)
8. WWII Soviet destroyer Type 7U Class
9. WWII Italy destroyer Maestrale class
10. WWII Italy destroyer Freccia class
11. WWII Italy destroyer Oriani class
12. WWII Italy destroyer Folgore class
13. WWII UK battleship Malaya, 1936-42 appearance
14. WWII UK light cruiser Emerald, as in Aug. 1934 to 1940
15. WWII Japan destroyer Shimakaze
16. WWII Japan battleship A-150 ‘super-Yamato’ design (# 798, 799)
17. French seaplane carrier Commandant Teste
18. WWII UK destroyer “V & W†classes, long-range escort conversions
19. WWII UK light cruiser Delhi, anti-aircraft conversion
20. WWII France battleship Courbet/Paris, 1935-1940 appearance
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Here is my updated Micronaut Consolidated Wish List for 2019-2020. Since four of my 2018-2019 choices were produced by GHQ, I have to make quite a few changes for this year. My choices are (in alphabetical order of country of origin):
• WWII France torpedo boat La Melpomene-class: This class of miniature destroyers was intended for escort work in the Mediterranean. They turned out overweight, lacking in stability, and unsuited for open-ocean work. They were fast, however, and several of them had interesting careers. There are numerous other small ships of similar characteristics that I would like modeled (see Italian Spica-class and US Admirable-class below).
• WWII France destroyer Vauquelin-class: GHQ’s FRN5 is labeled as Vauquelin, but I believe the arrangement of the torpedoes and the shape of the stern is that of the preceding Aigle class. There are several classes of WWII-era French destroyers yet to be modeled by GHQ; any of the following would be welcome: Mogador, Guepard, Chacal, L’Adroit, and Bourrasque.
• WWII Germany amphibious craft: Germany had a variety of small and medium-sized amphibious craft such as F-lighters, Marinefährprahm, Siebel ferry, etc. These were used in the Mediterranean, Black Sea and other coastal combat areas. I would like something similar to USN54, Landing Assault Craft, or USN55, Landing Support Craft, with a variety of types in a package.
• WWII Germany Aircraft Pack 2 [(Fw 190A/F or Bf 109T), Ju 88 or Ju 188 (preferably armed as a dive-bomber), He 111 (preferably with torpedo armament), He 115 floatplane, and/or He 177 (preferably with FX 1400 guided bomb or Hs 293 missiles)]: All five types played significant roles in maritime combat. The Germans really need a single-engine fighter. Maybe even both fighter types rather than one of the Heinkel aircraft.
• WWI Italy light cruiser Bixio-class or Quarto: The Pisa-class cruiser that GHQ has scheduled for the 2018-2019 season is an armored cruiser rather than a light cruiser. One of these would give the Italians a scouting force to go along with its heavier forces.
• WWI Italy battleship Dante Alighieri: This one-of-a-kind battleship carried heavy armament and had a high speed at the expense of relatively light armor. I would like to have it both because of its unusual appearance and to complete the Italian WWI battle fleet.
• WWII Italy destroyer Folgore-class: This class of four destroyers and the similar Freccia class saw extensive service as escorts in the Mediterranean. Less than satisfactory because of mechanical unreliability, these ships still deserve to have a good model in 1/2400 scale. CinC makes a model for the Freccia class, but GHQ would be better.
• WWI Italy destroyer Indomito or Pilo-class: I would like the WWI Italian fleet to have a full-sized destroyer. GHQ’s recently announced Soldato-class is more of a torpedo boat rather than a destroyer.
• WWII Italy torpedo boat Spica-class: These were good-looking ships with high speed, but let down by the armament scheme. Their gun and torpedo armament was ineffective against full-size destroyers and left insufficient capacity for defensive weapons. They would have been much better escorts with more anti-submarine capability and air defenses. I would like more of these smaller warships available.
• WWII Japan late-war Navy aircraft: Aichi B7A Ryusei [Grace], Kawanishi N1K Shiden [George], Mitsubishi A7M Reppu [Sam], Yokosuka D4Y3 [Judy] (radial version), Yokosuka P1Y Ginga [Frances]. Although Jill, Val, etc. continued fighting to the end of the war, they were meat on the table for Hellcats and Corsairs. Improved Japanese aircraft make hypothetical late-war battles more evenly balanced. I was disappointed that GHQ did not include any of these when they released IJN58, CV Unryu.
• WWII Japan heavy cruiser Maya, late-war appearance: This Takao class heavy cruiser was badly damaged at Rabaul. After repairs, the ruined “C†turret had been replaced by two additional twin 5-inch mounts. Although this is a single ship, I think the interest in Japanese cruisers is enough to make this a good choice for GHQ’s production.
• WWII Japan destroyer Mutsuki class, fast transport conversion: This was the last of the Japanese destroyer classes before the introduction of the revolutionary “Special Type†Fubuki. Considered obsolescent by 1940, they were converted into fast transports, most of which were sunk during the Solomons Campaign. This is the configuration that I would prefer.
• WWII Japan destroyer Shimakaze: This was only a single ship but many more were planned. This was a particularly fast and powerful design for a classic destroyer. Later in the war, the main gun armament was reduced to provide additional anti-aircraft protection. I would prefer the original appearance.
• WWII Soviet Union destroyer type 7U: This is a natural follow-on to SUN02 Type 7 destroyers; differing in appearance due to two funnels for a more damage-tolerant unit machinery arrangement. A significant number were completed before the end of the war. Viking Forge makes a 1/2400 model of the Type 7U but the quality is inferior to that of GHQ’s Micronauts.
• WWII Soviet Union battleship Sovyetskiy Soyuz design: This is the only hypothetical ship on my wish list. As with the German H, British Lion, and US BB-67 designs that are already available from GHQ; work was started but none were completed. I think the only 1/2400 model of Sovyetskiy Soyuz now available is a 3-D printed version.
• WWI UK battlecruiser Renown-class: This was the last class of battlecruisers completed during the Great War. Repulse saw combat in the First World War when she participated in the Second Battle of Heligoland Bight. Although CinC makes a model of this class, GHQ’s would be better
• WWII UK aircraft Fleet Air Arm pack: By now, anyone with 1/2400-scale British aircraft has plenty of Swordfish, but none of the other purpose-built aircraft used on carriers. Blackburn Skua, Fairey Fulmar, Fairey Firefly, and Fairey Barracuda would provide some variety on the decks. For land-based designs adapted for carrier use, Gloster Gladiators and Hawker Hurricanes would also be useful in addition to the available Spitfires. All of these aircraft saw significant combat from British carriers. If a Hurricane were available, it would also allow me to put aircraft on Catapult Armed Merchant Ships (CAMSs).
• WWII UK battleships Duke of York, Anson, or Howe: Now that GHQ has produced Prince of Wales, I would like to have a late-war version of this class, with significantly increased medium anti-aircraft weaponry. Although none of these ships were identical at the end of the war, the differences are small enough that I would accept any of these three to represent the others.
• WWII UK light cruisers Scylla and Charybdis: These two ships were nominally part of the Dido class, but because of shortage of the 5.25-inch guns that were to have been their main armament, they each received four twin 4.5-inch anti-aircraft guns instead. Sometimes referred to as “toothless,†they proved excellent anti-aircraft escorts and saw significant combat.
• WWII UK destroyers ‘V & W’ long-range escort conversions. These ships underwent significant conversion from obsolescent destroyers into effective anti-submarine escorts. The extent of the conversion makes it impractical to change GHQ’s UKN43 into this appearance. GHQ has already produced the unconverted version and the even more extensively converted anti-aircraft WAIR version. I would like them to continue with this and later the fast (short-range) escort version.
• WWII USA aircraft: land-based attack and medium bombers: The Douglas A-20 Havoc and its late-war replacement, the A-26 Invader, were high-powered attack types. GHQ already makes a B-25B (with USS Hornet and in the land-based bomber set), but I would like to have a late-model B-25H or J for low-level anti-shipping strikes. Although the Martin B-26 Marauder was used mostly for medium-altitude level bombing in Europe, they participated in the Battle of Midway as torpedo bombers.
• WWII USA auxiliary ships: Just before and during WWII the USA constructed a large number of purpose-built auxiliary ships on a common hull design. These included the Dixie (AD 14)-class destroyer tenders [5 in class], the Fulton (AS 11)-class submarine tenders [4 in class], and the Vulcan (AR 5)-class repair ships [7 in class]. Although the classes were identical, they were similar in carrying significant self-defense armament so that they could serve in advanced bases.
• WWII USA attack transport Harris (APA 2) class: Sixteen medium-sized passenger liners were built at the end of WWI to the “Design 1029†standard, also known as the “dollar design†and the “President 535-foot†design. Most operated as merchant liners between the wars, were taken over by the Army in 1940 and transferred to the Navy in 1942. Four were sold outside the US in the late 1930s, one remained in service with the Army, three were sunk as Navy transport ships before conversion to attack transports, and eight were converted into attack transports. I would prefer these modeled as attack transports with the military transport second choice, but the civil version would be OK.
• WWII US heavy cruiser Indianapolis (CA 35) (final configuration) – We are about half-way to being able to represent all the US pre-war heavy cruiser types in both early-war & late-war configuration. A late-war Pensacola (CA 24), Chester (CA 27), Augusta (CA 31), or New Orleans (CA 32) would also be welcome, but Indianapolis gets my vote because of her tragic sinking. No one makes a 1/2400 model of a late-war Indianapolis.
Don S.
• WWII France torpedo boat La Melpomene-class: This class of miniature destroyers was intended for escort work in the Mediterranean. They turned out overweight, lacking in stability, and unsuited for open-ocean work. They were fast, however, and several of them had interesting careers. There are numerous other small ships of similar characteristics that I would like modeled (see Italian Spica-class and US Admirable-class below).
• WWII France destroyer Vauquelin-class: GHQ’s FRN5 is labeled as Vauquelin, but I believe the arrangement of the torpedoes and the shape of the stern is that of the preceding Aigle class. There are several classes of WWII-era French destroyers yet to be modeled by GHQ; any of the following would be welcome: Mogador, Guepard, Chacal, L’Adroit, and Bourrasque.
• WWII Germany amphibious craft: Germany had a variety of small and medium-sized amphibious craft such as F-lighters, Marinefährprahm, Siebel ferry, etc. These were used in the Mediterranean, Black Sea and other coastal combat areas. I would like something similar to USN54, Landing Assault Craft, or USN55, Landing Support Craft, with a variety of types in a package.
• WWII Germany Aircraft Pack 2 [(Fw 190A/F or Bf 109T), Ju 88 or Ju 188 (preferably armed as a dive-bomber), He 111 (preferably with torpedo armament), He 115 floatplane, and/or He 177 (preferably with FX 1400 guided bomb or Hs 293 missiles)]: All five types played significant roles in maritime combat. The Germans really need a single-engine fighter. Maybe even both fighter types rather than one of the Heinkel aircraft.
• WWI Italy light cruiser Bixio-class or Quarto: The Pisa-class cruiser that GHQ has scheduled for the 2018-2019 season is an armored cruiser rather than a light cruiser. One of these would give the Italians a scouting force to go along with its heavier forces.
• WWI Italy battleship Dante Alighieri: This one-of-a-kind battleship carried heavy armament and had a high speed at the expense of relatively light armor. I would like to have it both because of its unusual appearance and to complete the Italian WWI battle fleet.
• WWII Italy destroyer Folgore-class: This class of four destroyers and the similar Freccia class saw extensive service as escorts in the Mediterranean. Less than satisfactory because of mechanical unreliability, these ships still deserve to have a good model in 1/2400 scale. CinC makes a model for the Freccia class, but GHQ would be better.
• WWI Italy destroyer Indomito or Pilo-class: I would like the WWI Italian fleet to have a full-sized destroyer. GHQ’s recently announced Soldato-class is more of a torpedo boat rather than a destroyer.
• WWII Italy torpedo boat Spica-class: These were good-looking ships with high speed, but let down by the armament scheme. Their gun and torpedo armament was ineffective against full-size destroyers and left insufficient capacity for defensive weapons. They would have been much better escorts with more anti-submarine capability and air defenses. I would like more of these smaller warships available.
• WWII Japan late-war Navy aircraft: Aichi B7A Ryusei [Grace], Kawanishi N1K Shiden [George], Mitsubishi A7M Reppu [Sam], Yokosuka D4Y3 [Judy] (radial version), Yokosuka P1Y Ginga [Frances]. Although Jill, Val, etc. continued fighting to the end of the war, they were meat on the table for Hellcats and Corsairs. Improved Japanese aircraft make hypothetical late-war battles more evenly balanced. I was disappointed that GHQ did not include any of these when they released IJN58, CV Unryu.
• WWII Japan heavy cruiser Maya, late-war appearance: This Takao class heavy cruiser was badly damaged at Rabaul. After repairs, the ruined “C†turret had been replaced by two additional twin 5-inch mounts. Although this is a single ship, I think the interest in Japanese cruisers is enough to make this a good choice for GHQ’s production.
• WWII Japan destroyer Mutsuki class, fast transport conversion: This was the last of the Japanese destroyer classes before the introduction of the revolutionary “Special Type†Fubuki. Considered obsolescent by 1940, they were converted into fast transports, most of which were sunk during the Solomons Campaign. This is the configuration that I would prefer.
• WWII Japan destroyer Shimakaze: This was only a single ship but many more were planned. This was a particularly fast and powerful design for a classic destroyer. Later in the war, the main gun armament was reduced to provide additional anti-aircraft protection. I would prefer the original appearance.
• WWII Soviet Union destroyer type 7U: This is a natural follow-on to SUN02 Type 7 destroyers; differing in appearance due to two funnels for a more damage-tolerant unit machinery arrangement. A significant number were completed before the end of the war. Viking Forge makes a 1/2400 model of the Type 7U but the quality is inferior to that of GHQ’s Micronauts.
• WWII Soviet Union battleship Sovyetskiy Soyuz design: This is the only hypothetical ship on my wish list. As with the German H, British Lion, and US BB-67 designs that are already available from GHQ; work was started but none were completed. I think the only 1/2400 model of Sovyetskiy Soyuz now available is a 3-D printed version.
• WWI UK battlecruiser Renown-class: This was the last class of battlecruisers completed during the Great War. Repulse saw combat in the First World War when she participated in the Second Battle of Heligoland Bight. Although CinC makes a model of this class, GHQ’s would be better
• WWII UK aircraft Fleet Air Arm pack: By now, anyone with 1/2400-scale British aircraft has plenty of Swordfish, but none of the other purpose-built aircraft used on carriers. Blackburn Skua, Fairey Fulmar, Fairey Firefly, and Fairey Barracuda would provide some variety on the decks. For land-based designs adapted for carrier use, Gloster Gladiators and Hawker Hurricanes would also be useful in addition to the available Spitfires. All of these aircraft saw significant combat from British carriers. If a Hurricane were available, it would also allow me to put aircraft on Catapult Armed Merchant Ships (CAMSs).
• WWII UK battleships Duke of York, Anson, or Howe: Now that GHQ has produced Prince of Wales, I would like to have a late-war version of this class, with significantly increased medium anti-aircraft weaponry. Although none of these ships were identical at the end of the war, the differences are small enough that I would accept any of these three to represent the others.
• WWII UK light cruisers Scylla and Charybdis: These two ships were nominally part of the Dido class, but because of shortage of the 5.25-inch guns that were to have been their main armament, they each received four twin 4.5-inch anti-aircraft guns instead. Sometimes referred to as “toothless,†they proved excellent anti-aircraft escorts and saw significant combat.
• WWII UK destroyers ‘V & W’ long-range escort conversions. These ships underwent significant conversion from obsolescent destroyers into effective anti-submarine escorts. The extent of the conversion makes it impractical to change GHQ’s UKN43 into this appearance. GHQ has already produced the unconverted version and the even more extensively converted anti-aircraft WAIR version. I would like them to continue with this and later the fast (short-range) escort version.
• WWII USA aircraft: land-based attack and medium bombers: The Douglas A-20 Havoc and its late-war replacement, the A-26 Invader, were high-powered attack types. GHQ already makes a B-25B (with USS Hornet and in the land-based bomber set), but I would like to have a late-model B-25H or J for low-level anti-shipping strikes. Although the Martin B-26 Marauder was used mostly for medium-altitude level bombing in Europe, they participated in the Battle of Midway as torpedo bombers.
• WWII USA auxiliary ships: Just before and during WWII the USA constructed a large number of purpose-built auxiliary ships on a common hull design. These included the Dixie (AD 14)-class destroyer tenders [5 in class], the Fulton (AS 11)-class submarine tenders [4 in class], and the Vulcan (AR 5)-class repair ships [7 in class]. Although the classes were identical, they were similar in carrying significant self-defense armament so that they could serve in advanced bases.
• WWII USA attack transport Harris (APA 2) class: Sixteen medium-sized passenger liners were built at the end of WWI to the “Design 1029†standard, also known as the “dollar design†and the “President 535-foot†design. Most operated as merchant liners between the wars, were taken over by the Army in 1940 and transferred to the Navy in 1942. Four were sold outside the US in the late 1930s, one remained in service with the Army, three were sunk as Navy transport ships before conversion to attack transports, and eight were converted into attack transports. I would prefer these modeled as attack transports with the military transport second choice, but the civil version would be OK.
• WWII US heavy cruiser Indianapolis (CA 35) (final configuration) – We are about half-way to being able to represent all the US pre-war heavy cruiser types in both early-war & late-war configuration. A late-war Pensacola (CA 24), Chester (CA 27), Augusta (CA 31), or New Orleans (CA 32) would also be welcome, but Indianapolis gets my vote because of her tragic sinking. No one makes a 1/2400 model of a late-war Indianapolis.
Don S.
"When a fire starts to burn,
here's a lesson you must learn:
something-something and you'll see
you'll avoid catastrophe."
D'oh!
here's a lesson you must learn:
something-something and you'll see
you'll avoid catastrophe."
D'oh!
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Consolidated Micronaut Wish List Summary
Replaced by updated list 2018-06-23.
Don S.
Replaced by updated list 2018-06-23.
Don S.
Last edited by Donald M. Scheef on Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"When a fire starts to burn,
here's a lesson you must learn:
something-something and you'll see
you'll avoid catastrophe."
D'oh!
here's a lesson you must learn:
something-something and you'll see
you'll avoid catastrophe."
D'oh!
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Following GHQ’s announcement of their 2018-2019 releases, here are some of the highlights of the Micronaut Wish List as of 2018-06-18. The noted changes are from the 2018-05-23 summary (just before the 2018-2019 schedule announcements).
Total number of items receiving at least one vote: 3942 (down from 3952, due to 12 items on the list being announced for production and two items added).
Most popular item: WWII era Germany MTB S-100 type Schnellboote (E-boats), with 47 votes. This replaces WWII era France heavy cruiser Duquesne-class, before 1940 (49 votes, announced for production).
By era:
Most popular Napoleonic era product: brass etched ratlines for 1st, 3rd, and 5th rates (9 votes each, unchanged)
Most popular Napoleonic era ship type: UK 44-gun razée Indefatigable (originally 64-gun Ardent class) (6 votes, up from 5 votes)
Most popular Era-of-Steam ship: Greece steam frigate Kateria (6 votes, up from 4 votes)
Most popular ironclad era ship: Confederate States casemate ironclad ram Virginia (ex-USS steam frigate Merrimack) (4 votes, unchanged).
Most popular pre-Dreadnought era ship: Germany battleship Braunschweig class (31 votes, unchanged)
Most popular WWI era ship: UK destroyer “L†class (ex-Laforey class) with 2 funnels (29 votes, unchanged)
Most popular WWII era ship: WWII era Germany MTB S-100 type Schnellboote (E-boats), with 47 votes. This replaces WWII era France heavy cruiser Duquesne-class, before 1940 (49 votes, announced for production)..
Most popular early Cold War era ship: Soviet light cruiser Sverdlov (Project 68 bis) class (34 votes, unchanged).
Most popular late Cold War era item: Soviet missile patrol boat Tarantul (Project 1241.MR)-class (16 votes, unchanged).
Most popular post-Cold War era item: USA naval aircraft (18 votes). This replaces China LPD Type 071 (Kunlunshan, Yuzhao) class (19 votes, announced for production)
Most popular post-Organian Treaty era ship: tie between UFP star cruiser Constitution (NCC1700) class and Klingon battlecruiser D-7 type (1 vote each, unchanged)
Most-popular item, by nation:
Argentina: late-Cold War era Malvinas/Falklands aircraft (13 votes, unchanged)
Australia: post-Cold War era frigate ANZAC-class (5 votes, unchanged)
Austria-Hungary: WWI era battleship ersatz Monarch (Improved Tegetthoff, battleship VIII)-design (8 votes, unchanged)
Belgium: WWII era gunboat Artevelde (1 vote, unchanged)
Brazil: WWI era battleship Minas Gerais-class (8 votes, unchanged)
Bulgaria: WWI era torpedo boat Drski-class (2 votes, unchanged)
Canada: post-Cold War era frigate City (Halifax)-class (6 votes, unchanged)
Chile: WWI era battleship Almirante Latorre class (7 votes, unchanged)
China: post-Cold War era corvette Type 056 (Jiangdao, Xinyang)-class (17 votes). This replaces post-Cold War era LPD Type 071 (Kunlunshan, Yuzhao) class (19 votes, announced for production)
Colombia: WWII era destroyer Vouga class (2 votes, unchanged)
Confederate States of America: Ironclad era casemate ironclad ram Virginia (4 votes, unchanged)
Cuba: tie among WWI era gunboat Cuba, WWI gunboat Diez de Octubre, and WWI gunboat Patrice (1 vote each, unchanged)
Czechoslovakia: tie between WWII era river gunboat OMm35 type and WWII era river gunboat President Masaryk (1 vote each, unchanged)
Denmark: WWII era coastal battleship Niels Juel (aka Niels Iuel) (1936 refit) (5 votes, unchanged)
Egypt: tie among WWII era motor gunboat Al Sarea, WWII motor gunboat Darfeel type, WWII gunboat El Amir Forouq, WWII motor gunboat Raqib type, and late Cold War guided missile patrol boat Ramadon-class (1 vote each, unchanged)
Eire: tie between WWII era fisheries protection ship Fort Rannoch and WWI era motor torpedo boat M1 type (1 vote each, unchanged)
Estonia: WWII era gunboat Pikkeri (2 votes, unchanged)
Finland: WWII era coast defense ship Väinämoinen-class (8 votes, unchanged)
France: WWII era destroyer Vauquelin-class (22 votes). This replaces WWII era heavy cruiser Duquesne class, early war (49 votes, announced for production)
Germany: WWII era Schnellboote, S-100 type (47 votes, unchanged)
Greece: Era-of-Steam steam frigate Kateria (6 votes, unchanged).
Hungary: tie among WWII era river gunboat Godolo, WWII era river gunboat Kecskemet, and WWII era river gunboat Sopron (1 vote each, unchanged)
Iceland: tie among WWII era fisheries protection ships Aegir, Esja, Odinn, Sudin, and Thor (1 vote each, unchanged)
India: post-Cold War era frigate Talwar class (10 votes, unchanged)
Iran (Persia): post-Cold War era miniature submarine Ghadir type (4 votes, unchanged)
Italy: WWII era destroyer Folgore class (24 votes, unchanged)
Japan: WWII era destroyer Kagero-class, late-war appearance (39 votes, unchanged)
Klingon: post-Organian Treaty battlecruiser D-7 class (1 vote, unchanged)
Korea, People’s Republic of (North): late-Cold War era frigate Najin-class (12 votes, unchanged)
Korea, Republic of (South): post-Cold War era corvette Gimcheon (Pohang
Flight III, IV and V)-class (15 votes, unchanged)
Latvia: tie between WWII era minesweeper Imanta class and WWII era submarine Ronis class (1 vote each, unchanged)
Manchukuo: tie among WWII era river gunboats Shun Tien, Tatung, and Ting Pien (one vote each, unchanged)
Mexico: WWII gunboat Durango (2 votes, unchanged)
NATO: late-Cold War era tactical aircraft (12 votes, unchanged)
Netherlands: WWII era destroyer Isaac Sweers (as completed in England with AA armament) (8 votes, unchanged)
Nigeria: post-Cold War patrol craft Centenary-class (4 votes, unchanged)
Norway: WWII era torpedo boat Sleipner-class (6 votes, unchanged)
Panama: WWII era commercial transport El Capitan (3 votes, unchanged)
Paraguay: WWII era river gunboat Paraguay (1 vote, unchanged)
Peru: tie between WWII era river gunboat Loreta-class and WWII era submarine R1-class (1 vote each, unchanged)
Poland: late Cold War era landing ship Ropucha-class (10 votes, unchanged)
Portugal: WWII era destroyer Dao class (3 votes, unchanged)
Romania: WWII era destroyer Mărăşti class (4 votes, unchanged)
Russia/Soviet Union/Russia: early Cold War light cruiser Sverdlov (Project 68 bis)-class (34 votes, unchanged)
Siam/Thailand: WWII era torpedo boat Puket class (3 votes, unchanged)
South Africa: post-Cold War era frigate MEKO 200 class (5 votes, unchanged)
Spain: pre-Dreadnought era armored cruiser Infanta Maria Teresa class (7 votes, unchanged)
Sweden: WWII era coastal battleship Sverige-class (1939 reconstruction) (7 votes, unchanged)
Taiwan: post-Cold War corvette Tuo Chiang-class (10 votes, unchanged)
Turkey: WWI era light cruiser Midilii, 1917 rearmament (10 votes, unchanged)
UFP: Post-Organian Treaty star cruiser Constitution (NCC-1700) class (1 vote, unchanged)
UK: WWII era destroyer leaders “Aâ€-“Iâ€-classes (41 votes, unchanged)
Uruguay: tie among WWI era gunboat 18 du Julio, WWI era gunboat Uruguay, and WWII era motor gunboat Paysandu class (1 vote each, unchanged)
USA: WWII era escort aircraft carrier Long Island (CVE 1) (38 votes). This replaces WWII era battleship Idaho (BB 42), late war appearance (44 votes, announced for producdtion)
Venezuela: post-Cold War corvette Guaiqueri-class (2 votes, unchanged)
Vietnam: post-Cold War frigate Dinh Tien Hoang (HQ-011) class [Russian Gepard 3.9 (Project 1166.1E)] (2 votes, unchanged)
Yugoslavia: WWII era destroyer Dubrovnik (7 votes, unchanged)
Most popular item, by type:
Aircraft carrier: WWII USA escort carrier Long Island (CVE 1) (38 votes, unchanged)
Battleship / battlecruiser / armored cruiser: WWII era UK battleship Duke of York, Anson, or Howe (32 votes). This replaces WWII era USA Idaho (BB 42), late-war appearance (44 votes, announced for production)
Cruiser: WWII era UK heavy cruiser York (36 votes). This replaces WWII era France heavy cruiser Duquesne-class (49 votes, announced for production)
Destroyer: WWII era UK destroyer leaders “A†through “Iâ€-classes [Codrington, Keith, Assiniboine, Exmouth, Faulkner, Grenville, Hardy, and Inglefield] (41 votes, unchanged)
Escort: WWII era UK frigate Black Swan class (40 votes, unchanged)
Submarine: WWII era Italy 600-ton type (18 votes, unchanged)
Amphibious: WWII era US fast attack transport Charles Lawrence (APD 37) class (32 votes, unchanged)
Auxiliary: WWI era UK seaplane tender Engadine class (26 vote, unchanged)
Small craft: WWII era Germany Schnellboote, S-100 type (47 votes, unchanged)
Aircraft: tie between WWII era Germany aircraft pack 2 (Bf 109, Bf 110, Do 24, Fw 190, Ju 88, He 111, He 115, and/or He 117) and WWII era UK Fleet Air Arm aircraft (Blackburn Skua, Fairey Albacore, Fairey Barracuda, Fairey Firefly, Fairey Fulmar, Gloster Sea Gladiator, Hawker Sea Hurricane) (31 votes each)
Commercial / civilian: WWII era USA civil cargo ship C3-S-A2 type (13 votes). This replaces WWII era USA civil oil tanker T2-SE-A1 type (22 votes, announced for production)
Sailing ships: UK 44-gun razée Indefatigable (originally 64-gun Ardent class) (6 votes, unchanged)
Other: deck decals for HUS4, CVN 71, USS Roosevelt (11 votes, unchanged)
Number of ships receiving only one vote: 1946, unchanged.
Don S.
Total number of items receiving at least one vote: 3942 (down from 3952, due to 12 items on the list being announced for production and two items added).
Most popular item: WWII era Germany MTB S-100 type Schnellboote (E-boats), with 47 votes. This replaces WWII era France heavy cruiser Duquesne-class, before 1940 (49 votes, announced for production).
By era:
Most popular Napoleonic era product: brass etched ratlines for 1st, 3rd, and 5th rates (9 votes each, unchanged)
Most popular Napoleonic era ship type: UK 44-gun razée Indefatigable (originally 64-gun Ardent class) (6 votes, up from 5 votes)
Most popular Era-of-Steam ship: Greece steam frigate Kateria (6 votes, up from 4 votes)
Most popular ironclad era ship: Confederate States casemate ironclad ram Virginia (ex-USS steam frigate Merrimack) (4 votes, unchanged).
Most popular pre-Dreadnought era ship: Germany battleship Braunschweig class (31 votes, unchanged)
Most popular WWI era ship: UK destroyer “L†class (ex-Laforey class) with 2 funnels (29 votes, unchanged)
Most popular WWII era ship: WWII era Germany MTB S-100 type Schnellboote (E-boats), with 47 votes. This replaces WWII era France heavy cruiser Duquesne-class, before 1940 (49 votes, announced for production)..
Most popular early Cold War era ship: Soviet light cruiser Sverdlov (Project 68 bis) class (34 votes, unchanged).
Most popular late Cold War era item: Soviet missile patrol boat Tarantul (Project 1241.MR)-class (16 votes, unchanged).
Most popular post-Cold War era item: USA naval aircraft (18 votes). This replaces China LPD Type 071 (Kunlunshan, Yuzhao) class (19 votes, announced for production)
Most popular post-Organian Treaty era ship: tie between UFP star cruiser Constitution (NCC1700) class and Klingon battlecruiser D-7 type (1 vote each, unchanged)
Most-popular item, by nation:
Argentina: late-Cold War era Malvinas/Falklands aircraft (13 votes, unchanged)
Australia: post-Cold War era frigate ANZAC-class (5 votes, unchanged)
Austria-Hungary: WWI era battleship ersatz Monarch (Improved Tegetthoff, battleship VIII)-design (8 votes, unchanged)
Belgium: WWII era gunboat Artevelde (1 vote, unchanged)
Brazil: WWI era battleship Minas Gerais-class (8 votes, unchanged)
Bulgaria: WWI era torpedo boat Drski-class (2 votes, unchanged)
Canada: post-Cold War era frigate City (Halifax)-class (6 votes, unchanged)
Chile: WWI era battleship Almirante Latorre class (7 votes, unchanged)
China: post-Cold War era corvette Type 056 (Jiangdao, Xinyang)-class (17 votes). This replaces post-Cold War era LPD Type 071 (Kunlunshan, Yuzhao) class (19 votes, announced for production)
Colombia: WWII era destroyer Vouga class (2 votes, unchanged)
Confederate States of America: Ironclad era casemate ironclad ram Virginia (4 votes, unchanged)
Cuba: tie among WWI era gunboat Cuba, WWI gunboat Diez de Octubre, and WWI gunboat Patrice (1 vote each, unchanged)
Czechoslovakia: tie between WWII era river gunboat OMm35 type and WWII era river gunboat President Masaryk (1 vote each, unchanged)
Denmark: WWII era coastal battleship Niels Juel (aka Niels Iuel) (1936 refit) (5 votes, unchanged)
Egypt: tie among WWII era motor gunboat Al Sarea, WWII motor gunboat Darfeel type, WWII gunboat El Amir Forouq, WWII motor gunboat Raqib type, and late Cold War guided missile patrol boat Ramadon-class (1 vote each, unchanged)
Eire: tie between WWII era fisheries protection ship Fort Rannoch and WWI era motor torpedo boat M1 type (1 vote each, unchanged)
Estonia: WWII era gunboat Pikkeri (2 votes, unchanged)
Finland: WWII era coast defense ship Väinämoinen-class (8 votes, unchanged)
France: WWII era destroyer Vauquelin-class (22 votes). This replaces WWII era heavy cruiser Duquesne class, early war (49 votes, announced for production)
Germany: WWII era Schnellboote, S-100 type (47 votes, unchanged)
Greece: Era-of-Steam steam frigate Kateria (6 votes, unchanged).
Hungary: tie among WWII era river gunboat Godolo, WWII era river gunboat Kecskemet, and WWII era river gunboat Sopron (1 vote each, unchanged)
Iceland: tie among WWII era fisheries protection ships Aegir, Esja, Odinn, Sudin, and Thor (1 vote each, unchanged)
India: post-Cold War era frigate Talwar class (10 votes, unchanged)
Iran (Persia): post-Cold War era miniature submarine Ghadir type (4 votes, unchanged)
Italy: WWII era destroyer Folgore class (24 votes, unchanged)
Japan: WWII era destroyer Kagero-class, late-war appearance (39 votes, unchanged)
Klingon: post-Organian Treaty battlecruiser D-7 class (1 vote, unchanged)
Korea, People’s Republic of (North): late-Cold War era frigate Najin-class (12 votes, unchanged)
Korea, Republic of (South): post-Cold War era corvette Gimcheon (Pohang
Flight III, IV and V)-class (15 votes, unchanged)
Latvia: tie between WWII era minesweeper Imanta class and WWII era submarine Ronis class (1 vote each, unchanged)
Manchukuo: tie among WWII era river gunboats Shun Tien, Tatung, and Ting Pien (one vote each, unchanged)
Mexico: WWII gunboat Durango (2 votes, unchanged)
NATO: late-Cold War era tactical aircraft (12 votes, unchanged)
Netherlands: WWII era destroyer Isaac Sweers (as completed in England with AA armament) (8 votes, unchanged)
Nigeria: post-Cold War patrol craft Centenary-class (4 votes, unchanged)
Norway: WWII era torpedo boat Sleipner-class (6 votes, unchanged)
Panama: WWII era commercial transport El Capitan (3 votes, unchanged)
Paraguay: WWII era river gunboat Paraguay (1 vote, unchanged)
Peru: tie between WWII era river gunboat Loreta-class and WWII era submarine R1-class (1 vote each, unchanged)
Poland: late Cold War era landing ship Ropucha-class (10 votes, unchanged)
Portugal: WWII era destroyer Dao class (3 votes, unchanged)
Romania: WWII era destroyer Mărăşti class (4 votes, unchanged)
Russia/Soviet Union/Russia: early Cold War light cruiser Sverdlov (Project 68 bis)-class (34 votes, unchanged)
Siam/Thailand: WWII era torpedo boat Puket class (3 votes, unchanged)
South Africa: post-Cold War era frigate MEKO 200 class (5 votes, unchanged)
Spain: pre-Dreadnought era armored cruiser Infanta Maria Teresa class (7 votes, unchanged)
Sweden: WWII era coastal battleship Sverige-class (1939 reconstruction) (7 votes, unchanged)
Taiwan: post-Cold War corvette Tuo Chiang-class (10 votes, unchanged)
Turkey: WWI era light cruiser Midilii, 1917 rearmament (10 votes, unchanged)
UFP: Post-Organian Treaty star cruiser Constitution (NCC-1700) class (1 vote, unchanged)
UK: WWII era destroyer leaders “Aâ€-“Iâ€-classes (41 votes, unchanged)
Uruguay: tie among WWI era gunboat 18 du Julio, WWI era gunboat Uruguay, and WWII era motor gunboat Paysandu class (1 vote each, unchanged)
USA: WWII era escort aircraft carrier Long Island (CVE 1) (38 votes). This replaces WWII era battleship Idaho (BB 42), late war appearance (44 votes, announced for producdtion)
Venezuela: post-Cold War corvette Guaiqueri-class (2 votes, unchanged)
Vietnam: post-Cold War frigate Dinh Tien Hoang (HQ-011) class [Russian Gepard 3.9 (Project 1166.1E)] (2 votes, unchanged)
Yugoslavia: WWII era destroyer Dubrovnik (7 votes, unchanged)
Most popular item, by type:
Aircraft carrier: WWII USA escort carrier Long Island (CVE 1) (38 votes, unchanged)
Battleship / battlecruiser / armored cruiser: WWII era UK battleship Duke of York, Anson, or Howe (32 votes). This replaces WWII era USA Idaho (BB 42), late-war appearance (44 votes, announced for production)
Cruiser: WWII era UK heavy cruiser York (36 votes). This replaces WWII era France heavy cruiser Duquesne-class (49 votes, announced for production)
Destroyer: WWII era UK destroyer leaders “A†through “Iâ€-classes [Codrington, Keith, Assiniboine, Exmouth, Faulkner, Grenville, Hardy, and Inglefield] (41 votes, unchanged)
Escort: WWII era UK frigate Black Swan class (40 votes, unchanged)
Submarine: WWII era Italy 600-ton type (18 votes, unchanged)
Amphibious: WWII era US fast attack transport Charles Lawrence (APD 37) class (32 votes, unchanged)
Auxiliary: WWI era UK seaplane tender Engadine class (26 vote, unchanged)
Small craft: WWII era Germany Schnellboote, S-100 type (47 votes, unchanged)
Aircraft: tie between WWII era Germany aircraft pack 2 (Bf 109, Bf 110, Do 24, Fw 190, Ju 88, He 111, He 115, and/or He 117) and WWII era UK Fleet Air Arm aircraft (Blackburn Skua, Fairey Albacore, Fairey Barracuda, Fairey Firefly, Fairey Fulmar, Gloster Sea Gladiator, Hawker Sea Hurricane) (31 votes each)
Commercial / civilian: WWII era USA civil cargo ship C3-S-A2 type (13 votes). This replaces WWII era USA civil oil tanker T2-SE-A1 type (22 votes, announced for production)
Sailing ships: UK 44-gun razée Indefatigable (originally 64-gun Ardent class) (6 votes, unchanged)
Other: deck decals for HUS4, CVN 71, USS Roosevelt (11 votes, unchanged)
Number of ships receiving only one vote: 1946, unchanged.
Don S.
"When a fire starts to burn,
here's a lesson you must learn:
something-something and you'll see
you'll avoid catastrophe."
D'oh!
here's a lesson you must learn:
something-something and you'll see
you'll avoid catastrophe."
D'oh!
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Donald M. Scheef
- E5
- Posts: 1629
- Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:24 am
- Location: Waukegan, Illinois USA
Consolidated Micronaut Wish List Summary
Replaced by updated list 2018-07-04.
Don S.
Replaced by updated list 2018-07-04.
Don S.
Last edited by Donald M. Scheef on Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"When a fire starts to burn,
here's a lesson you must learn:
something-something and you'll see
you'll avoid catastrophe."
D'oh!
here's a lesson you must learn:
something-something and you'll see
you'll avoid catastrophe."
D'oh!
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michaelw43
- Posts: 57
- Joined: Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:53 am
- Location: Sacramento, CA
My new request for Micronauts consists mostly of minor warship types from WWI and the early 1920s.
1. Pre-Dreadnought Mexico gunboat Nicolas Bravo class (a.k.a. Bravo class)
2. Pre-Dreadnought China gunboat Chu Tung class (a.k.a. Chu class)
3. WWI Brazil river monitor Pernambuco
4. WWI Italy gunboat Sebastiano Caboto
5. WWI China gunboat Yung Hsiang class
6. WWI Yugoslavia river monitor Drava
7. WWI Yugoslavia river monitor Vardar
8. WWII France gunboat Étourdi (Ardent class with 145mm guns)
9. WWII France sloop Marne (with 2 funnels)
10. WWII France sloop Somme (Marne class with 1 funnel)
11. WWII France sloop Ville d'Ys
12. WWII UK motor torpedo boat 55' early Thornycroft type
1. Pre-Dreadnought Mexico gunboat Nicolas Bravo class (a.k.a. Bravo class)
2. Pre-Dreadnought China gunboat Chu Tung class (a.k.a. Chu class)
3. WWI Brazil river monitor Pernambuco
4. WWI Italy gunboat Sebastiano Caboto
5. WWI China gunboat Yung Hsiang class
6. WWI Yugoslavia river monitor Drava
7. WWI Yugoslavia river monitor Vardar
8. WWII France gunboat Étourdi (Ardent class with 145mm guns)
9. WWII France sloop Marne (with 2 funnels)
10. WWII France sloop Somme (Marne class with 1 funnel)
11. WWII France sloop Ville d'Ys
12. WWII UK motor torpedo boat 55' early Thornycroft type
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Shark73
- Posts: 73
- Joined: Tue May 12, 2009 12:45 pm
- Location: Hong Kong
My requests for moderns for 2019-2020:
China Cruiser/Destroyer Renhai Type 055 class -- 6 being built
China Destroyer Luhu Type 052 class -- 2 active
China Destroyer Luzhou Type 051C class -- 2 active
China Corvette Jiangdao Type 056 class -- 40+ built
China CV-17 Shangdong Type 001A class -- sea trial
ROC Destroyer Kee Lung class ex-US Kidd class -- 4 active
ROC Frigate Kang Ding class (variant of French La Fayette class with Sea Chaparral SAM and Oto main gun) -- 6 active
Japan Destroyer Atago class -- 2 active
Japan Destroyer Asagiri class -- 8 active
China Cruiser/Destroyer Renhai Type 055 class -- 6 being built
China Destroyer Luhu Type 052 class -- 2 active
China Destroyer Luzhou Type 051C class -- 2 active
China Corvette Jiangdao Type 056 class -- 40+ built
China CV-17 Shangdong Type 001A class -- sea trial
ROC Destroyer Kee Lung class ex-US Kidd class -- 4 active
ROC Frigate Kang Ding class (variant of French La Fayette class with Sea Chaparral SAM and Oto main gun) -- 6 active
Japan Destroyer Atago class -- 2 active
Japan Destroyer Asagiri class -- 8 active
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Donald M. Scheef
- E5
- Posts: 1629
- Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:24 am
- Location: Waukegan, Illinois USA
Consolidated Micronaut Wish List Summary
Replaced by updated list 2018-09-11.
Don S.
Replaced by updated list 2018-09-11.
Don S.
Last edited by Donald M. Scheef on Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"When a fire starts to burn,
here's a lesson you must learn:
something-something and you'll see
you'll avoid catastrophe."
D'oh!
here's a lesson you must learn:
something-something and you'll see
you'll avoid catastrophe."
D'oh!
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MechCommander
- E5
- Posts: 3550
- Joined: Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:09 am
Canadian Micronauts list (Updated)
WW1
HMCS Niobe (Diadem Class Protected Cruiser)
HMCS Rainbow (Apollo Class Protected Crusier)
HMCS Canada (Patrol Vessel)
HMCS Acadia (Aux Patrol Vessel)
HMCS Algerine (Phoenix class sloop)
Converted yachts.
Battle Class Naval Trawler.
WW2
Prince class Armed Merchant Cruisers
Bangor Class Minesweeper
Cold war Modern
CVL-22 HMCS Bonaventure
CVL-21 HMCS Magnificent
Iroquois Class DDG
St Laurent Class DDH
Bird Class Patrol vessel
HMCS Bras d'Or Hydrofoil
Protector Class Oiler
Halifax class frigate.
Kingston class coastal defense vessel
Victoria Class submarine
Canadian Coast Guard icebreakers
V-Class Car Ferry
C-Class RORO Ferry
Powell-River class Ferry.
WW1
HMCS Niobe (Diadem Class Protected Cruiser)
HMCS Rainbow (Apollo Class Protected Crusier)
HMCS Canada (Patrol Vessel)
HMCS Acadia (Aux Patrol Vessel)
HMCS Algerine (Phoenix class sloop)
Converted yachts.
Battle Class Naval Trawler.
WW2
Prince class Armed Merchant Cruisers
Bangor Class Minesweeper
Cold war Modern
CVL-22 HMCS Bonaventure
CVL-21 HMCS Magnificent
Iroquois Class DDG
St Laurent Class DDH
Bird Class Patrol vessel
HMCS Bras d'Or Hydrofoil
Protector Class Oiler
Halifax class frigate.
Kingston class coastal defense vessel
Victoria Class submarine
Canadian Coast Guard icebreakers
V-Class Car Ferry
C-Class RORO Ferry
Powell-River class Ferry.
Last edited by MechCommander on Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:51 am, edited 1 time in total.
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MechCommander
- E5
- Posts: 3550
- Joined: Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:09 am
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Donald M. Scheef
- E5
- Posts: 1629
- Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:24 am
- Location: Waukegan, Illinois USA
Consolidated Micronaut Wish List Summary
Replaced by updated list 2019-01-07.
Don S.
Replaced by updated list 2019-01-07.
Don S.
Last edited by Donald M. Scheef on Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"When a fire starts to burn,
here's a lesson you must learn:
something-something and you'll see
you'll avoid catastrophe."
D'oh!
here's a lesson you must learn:
something-something and you'll see
you'll avoid catastrophe."
D'oh!