Micronaut Only Thread

[battlewagon]

Thanks to all who helped with the Royal Oak turret question. I managed to work it out by splitting the difference three ways, as suggested: filing the turret rear, filing the superstructure's peak and moving the barbette hole forwards. That I managed to utterly destroy the remainder of the model during the process is no one's fault but my own - mine and that of my uncoordinated, overzealous, impatient ham fists.Cheers.

Well, I suppose you can make the best of it and build the post -torpedo attack version of the Royal Oak.

Seriously, I hope your next build goes much smoother than this one.

[TAMMY]

Italian Navy used number fore to aft by caliber. For the secondary armament 1, 3, on the right and 2m 4 on the left.

On the French Dunkerque and Richelieu the turrets were numbered from 1 to 7. 1 nad 2 were the main ones, 4 and 6 the secondary om the left; 3 and 5 thiose on the right; 7 the last one in the center aft.

Nothe that the German turrets were identified as "A", "B" etc. Anton, Bruno, etc. were the phonetics for them.

[dragon6]

Italian Navy used number fore to aft by caliber. For the secondary armament 1, 3, on the right and 2m 4 on the left

Tammy I'm unsure of what you mean exactly.

How would the Littorios turrets be numbered?
Similar to the America example, 15/1 or differently?
Pronounced Fifteen one (if I understand the example)

How are the secondary/tertiary turrets distinguished?
For example how are the 90mm turrets named?

[TAMMY]

The turrets were simply numbered fore to aft and left to right.

The main turrets where 1, 2 a,d 3 (fore to aft). If necessary it was added "g.c." for "grosso calibro" (large caliber), that is above 203mm

The 152mm turrets were 1 to 4 (1 and 3 on the left). If necessary it was added "m.c." for "medio calibro", that is above 120mm up to 203mm

The 90mm were numbered 1 to 12 (1, 3, etc on the left) adding a.a. if necessary.

The fire control were separate so there was no risk of confusion.

BTW the american system for the big guns seems unnecessary. Whatcwas the scope of 16? There were no possibility of mistake even if they were called simply 1, 2 and 3 as the other turrets were 51, 52 etc or 31, 32 etc.

[PanzerFour]

I hope a non-1/2400 ship is ok?

My 1/6000 Washington; painted in Haze Grey and Navy Blue, and given a wash. My camera is old, only 1mp, but this gives an idea of scale... and the detail a 1/6000 ship has! Still not as nice as GHQs, admittedly...



Need to find a good color for that "oh so blue" of the Pacific Ocean.

[John Secker]

I have a lot of these models - the whole British and German WW2 fleets and large chunks of the American and Japanese. I much prefer these for wargaming - on a big table you can actually get close to a 1:1 figure:ground scale, so you get a real impression of the sheer distances of a modern naval battle. I have not bought any for a long time - maybe 20 years now - for their time they were very nice castings, but I wonder if they have been re-mastered? I would love to see what GHQ would make of ships at this scale, but I guess they have gone a long way down the 1/2400 road and I don't expect them to open up a new scale.

[PanzerFour]

If GHQ were to release a line in 1/6000, i think naval wargaming would flock to their door... i mean, at that scale, a battleship would be about the same size as a 1/2400 DE, and the detail in those that GHQ makes is amazing.

If only!

[battlewagon]

I own a lot of both scales, the 1/6000th scale ships are very nice and you can tell one ship from another very easily but there is only so much detail you can put on a ship that small. I have purchased 1/2400th ships from multiple vendors and the detail and quality of the GHQ ships is head and shoulders above the competition. I do admit that I have a couple of one piece plastic American superdreadnaughts that I use to test new paint colors and camouflage designs on.

I think the 1/6000th ships are well represented elsewhere, so I am happy to see GHQ continue to expand the Micronaut line...saves me the time and trouble of kitbash / scratchbuild conversions.

Speaking of which, now that the wife has her new "craft room", I have taken over her old table and shelves in the "office"(...yes, it is a man cave now) and I now have about 4 times as much room for my model building. With her going out of town for a few days my "shipyard" is open for business! I can smell the primer and paints already!

[PanzerFour]

I own a lot of both scales, the 1/6000th scale ships are very nice and you can tell one ship from another very easily but there is only so much detail you can put on a ship that small. I have purchased 1/2400th ships from multiple vendors and the detail and quality of the GHQ ships is head and shoulders above the competition. I do admit that I have a couple of one piece plastic American superdreadnaughts that I use to test new paint colors and camouflage designs on.

I think the 1/6000th ships are well represented elsewhere, so I am happy to see GHQ continue to expand the Micronaut line...saves me the time and trouble of kitbash / scratchbuild conversions.

Speaking of which, now that the wife has her new "craft room", I have taken over her old table and shelves in the "office"(...yes, it is a man cave now) and I now have about 4 times as much room for my model building. With her going out of town for a few days my "shipyard" is open for business! I can smell the primer and paints already!

I can dream! I love the Micronauts line, truly; so much wonderful detail, especially in the bigger ships, and I use the 1/2400 aircraft on stands to represent airplanes (3 planes = 1 squadron of aircraft). Would be nice to have the ships and airplanes be the same scale, and lets face it, 1/6000 aircraft are just impossible. Ill likely aquire more of GHQs ships soon (I am still working on my "murderer's row" diorama) when school is finally done.

And awesome on a few days of undisturbed modelling; you'll give us some pictures of the new ships?!

[battlewagon]

I can dream! I love the Micronauts line, truly; so much wonderful detail, especially in the bigger ships, and I use the 1/2400 aircraft on stands to represent airplanes (3 planes = 1 squadron of aircraft). Would be nice to have the ships and airplanes be the same scale, and lets face it, 1/6000 aircraft are just impossible. Ill likely aquire more of GHQs ships soon (I am still working on my "murderer's row" diorama) when school is finally done.

And awesome on a few days of undisturbed modelling; you'll give us some pictures of the new ships?!

i am looking forward to seeing the pictures of your diorama, I have been looking at that picture of those carriers since I was a kid.

I will definitely post pictures of my handiwork, but I will probably spend the first evening figuring out what gets painted first and what scheme / measure to use.

[dragon6]

What colour would ship's boats be on American WW2 ships?
If the deck is Deck Blue would they be the same?
Grey?

[busboy]

My first Micronaught: U.S.S. Texas, BB-35:









*edit: reduced the image sizes to avoid messing with people's browsers.

[Unfathomable]

This thread has gone inactive and slid too far down. So I'm going to get a couple of questions off my chest and hopefully pull some attention back to my favourite part of these forums ...

Sorry for the blurt, but I'm going to come out with everything at once:

* I recently had a model (the WWI HMS Bristol, if memory serves) that had two sections of superstructure which had been misaligned as halves during the manufacturing process. The perfectionist in me was determined to fix this but, compelled by the far stronger force known as "bumbling impatience", I went ahead and made the thing anyway. For future reference, has anyone else ever dealt with this, and if so, how did they fix it? Those two mismatched parts were not going to come apart without a fight ...

* I came to GHQ models by way of modelling, not gaming. But having explored the forum I've thought that I'd perhaps try giving some gaming a go, providing I can find someone in Sydney, Australia, to play against. As GHQ has no WWI naval rules I contacted them for a recommendation on rule sets and they were kind enough to direct me to a site with a great many free and pay rules. But never having experienced such a game before, and having no time to experiment, I had no idea of where to start or whether any given set of rules was good, poor or indifferent. Does anyone here have a personal fave for WWI or even, say, general 1906 to 1922 style rules?

* Does GHQ normally have a Christmas sale? As deliveries can take a month to five weeks to arrive I'd like to place a Christmas order soon, but would be annoyed to buy early to ensure delivery and then miss out on savings that appear the moment I click "purchase"!

* Is there anyone here that does rigging on their ships and has the urge to offer advice? I usually use Caenis line on much larger scales ...

* Does anyone here have experience in modifying the slender WWI Royal Navy destroyer line, specifically drawing all the many funnel and gun (etc) variations out of the 'M' class? Has anyone actually gone so far as to represent all the many class variants from around this time, perhaps including builders specials? (I can provide exact classes if needed). If someone has indeed done so, I'd like to open a discussion.

I have many, many more questions but this should get the ball rolling. And hopefully help this brilliant thread! Hope to post some truly crummy pictures soon.

Cheers.

[dragon6]

I can only offer my opinion on some of these topics

This thread has gone inactive and slid too far down. So I'm going to get a couple of questions off my chest and hopefully pull some attention back to my favourite part of these forums ...

Sorry for the blurt, but I'm going to come out with everything at once:

No problem, let it all hang out

* I came to GHQ models by way of modelling, not gaming. But having explored the forum I've thought that I'd perhaps try giving some gaming a go, providing I can find someone in Sydney, Australia, to play against. As GHQ has no WWI naval rules I contacted them for a recommendation on rule sets and they were kind enough to direct me to a site with a great many free and pay rules. But never having experienced such a game before, and having no time to experiment, I had no idea of where to start or whether any given set of rules was good, poor or indifferent. Does anyone here have a personal fave for WWI or even, say, general 1906 to 1922 style rules?

Do you like complex or simple?
I like Seekrieg 5 but it may be to complex.
Fleet Action Imminent by Old Dominion Game Works
There is a yahoo group here http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/GenQuarters/ that supports it. I believe there are active members in Australia.
FAI is World War I, relatively simple but maintains flavour

* Does GHQ normally have a Christmas sale? As deliveries can take a month to five weeks to arrive I'd like to place a Christmas order soon, but would be annoyed to buy early to ensure delivery and then miss out on savings that appear the moment I click "purchase"!

Yes, I await this one with bated breath. My wife hates bated breath...

* Is there anyone here that does rigging on their ships and has the urge to offer advice? I usually use Caenis line on much larger scales ...

Sorry, can't help but I'm sure someone will

* Does anyone here have experience in modifying the slender WWI Royal Navy destroyer line, specifically drawing all the many funnel and gun (etc) variations out of the 'M' class? Has anyone actually gone so far as to represent all the many class variants from around this time, perhaps including builders specials? (I can provide exact classes if needed). If someone has indeed done so, I'd like to open a discussion.

A delicate task with the size of the models. I'd love to read your information

I have many, many more questions but this should get the ball rolling. And hopefully help this brilliant thread! Hope to post some truly crummy pictures soon.

Cheers.

[av8rmongo]

* Is there anyone here that does rigging on their ships and has the urge to offer advice? I usually use Caenis line on much larger scales ...
Cheers.

If you're asking about anything but Napoleonic ships of the line and you're going to be gaming with them I would say don't do rigging. I've seen rigging on 1/2400 scale ships for display and they are beautiful but completely too delicate/fragile for gaming in my opinion. And there is always the question of scale, can you find thread thin enough so it doesn't look like the ship is rigged with cables a foot thick. On page 15 of this thread there is a pic of Graf Spee done by SeaHarrier2006 with some rigging, its well done and apparently ready to wargame with but I would be very reluctant to risk that much work.

Ships of the line need rigging for looks and it helps stabilize the masts whether you game with them or display them. There are some very good step by step quides available although the name escapes me at the moment.