2019 - 2020 Wish List for Modern, '47, WWII Micro Armor

panzergator · Post by **panzergator** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:14 pm

CG2, happy to turn the business over to you. I wrote long justifications to support my requests, but have no idea if it affected any outcome. Probably don't need to do it. I doubt we need two threads and my ego isn't tied into it at all. Let's go with your approach and I will step away. After all, I'm not giving up a pile of free stuff starting the thread. Your method may be most effective.

CG2 · Post by **CG2** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:42 pm

Happy to give it a try - if people don't like it or it doesn't work some other way, we can always go back to the current way.

7.62 · Post by **7.62** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:19 pm

You have my backing folks.
Anything which helps GHQ see that people are interested and openly asking for a new item must be a positive move.
Today is the last issue of the new releases from last years list.
You could not pick a better time to get on GHQ's radar.

Full disclosure and registration....
I am a foreign agent intent on active lobbing and influencing the outcome of an American democratic process. This includes but is not limited to.
Cash payments (For Gripen's etc), misuse/manipulation of the free press, coercion of companies and individuals, personnal favors,
attending meeting and rallies with placards and silly hats.

CG2 · Post by **CG2** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:27 pm

How about the following rules?

- You can pick 5 items in each category.
- Categories are WW2, W47, Cold War/Vietnam and Ultra-Modern (all 1/285 scale - includes aircraft and 1/285 boats).
- You can also pick 1 new range (ie WW1).
- You can change your picks whenever you like, but if you pick new items then old ones are deleted.

panzergator · Post by **panzergator** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:42 pm

Sounds reasonable to me.

redleg · Post by **redleg** » Wed May 01, 2019 4:45 am

I'm good with that. Are you going to start a new thread for this?

panzergator · Post by **panzergator** » Wed May 01, 2019 6:10 am

Time to start a new thread as soon as the new product list is published.

MechCommander · Post by **MechCommander** » Wed May 01, 2019 6:23 am

I'll squeeze in this one last vehicle in before you guys start a new thread.

Canada
Bombardier Muskeg Tractor.

shawno · Post by **shawno** » Wed May 01, 2019 7:46 am

Final plug for Coyote TSV (6x6 Jackal) - with that and Jackal/Panther, could build a UK light cavalry regiment.

panzergator · Post by **panzergator** » Wed May 01, 2019 7:58 pm

"Don't panic! Don't panic!" ( Lance Corporal Jones, Dad's Army). The new equipment list might not be out for some time. While I don't think a new thread is appropriate until that list is out, others may feel the time is now. In any case, I am sure the decisions for this year's New stuff have already been made - after all, it takes time to sculpt the masters, make the molds, and start production of the product.

Since CG2 is handling this, and the way he wants to do it is to limit us to five items, and you may change your items at any time, you can change anything that, by great fortune, comes out on the list for the coming production year.

It is likely that anything posted this year is better posted on the wish list for 2020-2021.

I will leave it to CG2 to start the thread when he is ready.

CG2 · Post by **CG2** » Wed May 01, 2019 9:29 pm

I'm happy to follow Panzergator's suggestion and open a new thread once the list comes out - as he says it's too late to influence this year anyway.

panzergator · Post by **panzergator** » Fri May 03, 2019 10:05 am

When CG2's thread opens, I encourage everyone to put in your suggestions as early as possible. This gives GHQ's decision makers the maximum time to consider the candidates for inclusion. I would think that suggestions made after December will not make the list, assuming lead times. I don't know how long it takes to prepare a model and produce the initial run. Most of us probably already know what we'd like to see, so let's please get hot on it.

Also, please read over CG2's concept of the operation for the list. If you disagree or have further suggestions, bring them up now.

Thnx,

PG

CG2 · Post by **CG2** » Fri May 03, 2019 2:04 pm

Looking back over previous wish list entries, can I offer some further thoughts for discussion?

It will be helpful if people can be specific as some collation might be necessary. For example, if someone asks for 'WW2 Russian Artillery Gun Tractor' and another asks for 'Voroshilovets Gun Tractor', they may be asking for the same thing. Ideally people will look at the list and adjust their entry so that we end up with 2 votes for the gun tractor rather than 2 entries with 1 vote each.

Secondly, it may be worth considering sales potential to GHQ. Is the item from a popular period or army? Is the piece of equipment '** CENSORED **'? Does the item unlock future purchases ie would you buy a second battalion if they produced a nice brigade command pack? Is there a particular item missing that stops you buying from a particular range? Would voting for 'British Engineers WW2' this year mean that GHQ are more likely to produce that pack of 'Italian Engineers WW2' that you've always wanted in future?

It's a whole new strategy and tactics game all on its own!

panzergator · Post by **panzergator** » Fri May 03, 2019 5:29 pm

I agree with CG2. It is in our own interest to be as specific as possible. It seems sometimes that is how I ended up with that awful M577 track extension. It may even be helpful to include a picture or a reference (including page number). It is up to us to make CG2's collation job as easy as possible, providing all the info needed to sort things out, not to mention helping out GHQ's production effort.

And think about production... For instance, I would like to see a model of the M48A1. It's range was so limited that a rack was installed at the rear lip of the back deck which carried 4 55gal fuel drums. The rack and drums were intended to be jettisoned as the tank entered combat. That rack will complicate the model and won't be used in battle, anyway. It also may mean only 3 tanks per pack instead of 5. Do I really need the racks? Nope. I can do without them and get my M48A1 battalion cheaper, with more likelihood it will be produced. The 70-mile range of that model makes consideration of logistics a little more important and it contributes to the tail end of the '47 series or the beginning of the Cold War. M48A1s can be seen at Checkpoint Charlie in the 1961 Berlin Crisis, so they would have been center mass if things had gone hot. They were used in tank battalions as well as cavalry units. They were everywhere! And the Cold War could just as easily have gone hot in the Fifties as the 70s or 80s, except that Eisenhower was President and he was a lot smarter about these things than his successors. (Yeah, I know Kennedy was President during the Berlin Crisis, but Ike was Prez during most of the 50s. Kennedy's inexperience might have led to war on several occasions, but he had Ike for advice and JFK kept learning. We were lucky).

BurtWolf · Post by **BurtWolf** » Fri May 03, 2019 6:23 pm

I like the idea of adding detail and justification. The M48 write up was on point - good stuff.

While talking specifics, what about further focusing the picks? In CGs excellent plan, you get 5 picks per Era. What about having the picks categorized? This way we may get more consensus, perhaps show greater trends (majority rules) if options are limited and focused.

For example, the 5 picks would work out to be: max 2 picks for tanks/afv; max 1 pick for arty and AT; max 1 pick for soft vehicles; and max 1 pick for infantry. Any two picks can be swapped for Micronaut, accessories, or airplane picks.

Just a thought... looking forward to your plan CH. thanks for organizing.