ACR thread, as suggested by Redleg

panzergator · Post by **panzergator** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:37 am

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panzergator · Post by **panzergator** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:42 am

Painted OD like a footlocker or Cavalry Yellow. Crossed sabers top and front center. Stenciled unit designation below sabers. Red over white guidon upper right and front panel. List of campaigns stenciled on front lower right.

Hey! Go BIG! Nice box.

chrisswim · Post by **chrisswim** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:04 pm

Cool idea that developed nicely. Look s good.

redleg · Post by **redleg** » Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:50 am

The 1st Squadron / 9th ACR is now officially complete and combat ready. I was going to only do the tracks and key vehicles in HHT, but I got a little carried away. I am shrt a few HMMWVs and trucks, and I did not include the HHT maintenance platoon since each troop / company / battery has their own maintenance section. Now it's time to start on 2nd Squadron!

Just an interesting side note: if I play Micro Armor or Command Decision or some other platoon-scaled game, I will have enough tanks and brads for 4 battalions of each with 1st squadron alone! Once I get the whole ACR done, I will be able to field 2 heavy divisions and an ACR at platoon scale! I am suddenly feeling very Patton-ish.

chrisswim · Post by **chrisswim** » Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:59 am

Looks great!,,,
Patton, bring those guys on if you wanna look a lot worse. Go get the bad guys.

redleg · Post by **redleg** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:20 pm

[quote="Cav Dog"]Redleg,

Nice looking kit. I suggest you focus on adding the support elements that Regiment would chop to each ground squadron; engineer platoon, ADA section and chemical recon and defense platoon.

And my personal favorite, an air cav troop from 4th sqdn. By SOP, each ground squadron had a "dedicated" air troop. Depending on when you are modeling it, the troop could be either 6 OH-58A/C and 4 AH1F, or 6 OH58D and 4 AH64 Apaches, or currently 8 OH58 Kiowa Warriors.

Good luck and have fun...[/quote]

Hey Cav Dog, were the engineer company, chemical company, and ADA battery organic to the ACR? I'm having trouble finding references for those companies other than as attachments. It won't matter either way for y acquisition program, but the staff nerd in me want to have the correct unit designation.

redleg · Post by **redleg** » Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:37 am

1st Squadron / 9th ACR is now ready for action! After waffling on the support units for quite some time, I finally decided to model most of the squadron with the exception of the HHT maintenance platoon. After getting most of the squadron painted I decide to also eliminate the ammo section of the howitzer battery, and then I also cut a few more random trucks and HMMWVs so that the whole squadron was at an even 225 vehicles.

The cavalry troops are TO&E complete with 35 vehicles each and the tank company is also complete with 24 vehicles. How battery has 28 vehicles and HHT (including the HQ element) has a total of 68 vehicles.

panzergator · Post by **panzergator** » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:12 am

Great assembly showing how powerful our late, great, armored cavalry regiments once were (this is just one of THREE squadrons in a regiment, and once, we had THREE REGIMENTS!). Alas, they are now mounted in busses armed with machineguns. Just think about how the Battle of 73 Easting would go today.

Bring back the REAL ACR! Alas, Donn Starry is spinning in his grave at what the ACR has become.

Nice job. Any particular reason Dr depicting 9th Cavalry?

Hoth_902 · Post by **Hoth_902** » Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:48 am

Redleg,

That is simply a thing of beauty. Much to soon be my girlfriends disappointment, and inspiration on what I am working on. I too am trying to build an ACR, albeit at a much slower pace. I have one troop almost done and started on a second. I have a full company of M1s, but neither the Calvary troop or the M1s have the command tracks and Humvee. I am going to use your pictures as the model. Thanks for posting.

This question, is for both you and panzer. Did they do away with the ACRs? if so, mine might be a "What if" recreation. Most of my supply trucks are current vehicles, like the FMTVs.

I use to think I new stuff and recently realized, I know nothing at all. Most of my knowledge is from a few reference books and what I am slowly extracting from the internet and this page. Not nearly enough free time to figure out all these TO&Es.

P.S. What did you use on your bases? I have some infantry I need to make an attempt at basing. Would love some ideas and suggestions.

redleg · Post by **redleg** » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:11 am

Thanks guys. Iâ€™m doing the 9th ACR because the only time I was ever assigned to a unit with cavalry in the title was when I was in B Troop / 9th Cavalry (BTR). It was a brigade reconnaissance troop, and to my knowledge there has never been a 9th ACR, but I wanted to personalize it a bit so I came u with the 9th. My next project is going to be 2nd BCT / 1st ID which I was assigned to and I will stick to real life unit designations for that one.

Hoth, the ACRs are no more. When I was in the Army the 3rd ACR was the last real ACR, but it transitioned to Stryker vehicles at some point and now itâ€™s just called a cavalry regiment. There is a good website that goes into excruciating detail on the TO&E of an ACR here: https://fas.org/man/dod-101/army/unit/toe/

For the individual cav troops, tank company, and HHT I found field manuals to be more user friendly. Try these out. If you canâ€™t find them send me your email address and I can email them to you in pdf.

FM 17-97 Cavalry Troop
FM 3-90.1 Tank and Mech Infantry Company Team
FM 3-20.90 Tank HHC and Cavalry HHT

redleg · Post by **redleg** » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:18 am

For my dismounts I use gray pumice on a penny. I put a thin layer of pumice on the penny, then just stick the individual grunts into it. They're stuck pretty good once the pumice dries. Then I paint the base brown and then dry brush some tan on top of it, and then I finally paint the individual dudes.

panzergator · Post by **panzergator** » Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:58 am

Yep. No more ACRs. 2nd ACR is mounted in busses. STRYKERS need to stay at least 1 terrain feature back from the FLOT. What good is THAT!? Imagine the Battle of 73 Easting with cavalry mounted in Strykers. one terrain feature back from the FLOT... Not even HR McMaster could make that work! Can you say USELESS!?

I intend to build my own notional ACR, the 13th. J series, tanks, Brads, arty, plus mech battalion. REAL US CAVALRY! BIG STICK! Nice FAST! Hit HARD! Keep moving! Keep hitting! Cavalry that rides alongside the enemy, beating him with a stick while he tries to retreat, until he can't move any more!

Donn Starry is spinning in his grave!

7.62 · Post by **7.62** » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:02 am

That is a great unit redleg, must be one of the best supported I've seen. Just goes to show how much is needed to to keep the sharp end going.

I'm off to see what I can add to my armoured brigades to give them at least some support. My poor tankies must be using a heck of a lot of jerry cans!

panzergator · Post by **panzergator** » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:16 am

If you want to support an H series armor bn, you need 30 M151s, 6 Gamma Goats, 21 deuce and a halves, 6 5-ton trucks, 5 cargo GOERS, and 4 fuel service GOERS.

That assumes you already have the 10 M113s in the scout platoon, 4 4.2in mortar carriers, 3 M113 ambulances, 6 M577s, 4 M113 maintenance tracks, 5 M88s, 2 M578s, a 5T wrecker, and a GOER wrecker. The S-3 also has a M113 to run around in. And 2 AVLBs. It's expensive. I am working on the full support for one of my H series tk bns. Costs more than the tanks! (At GHQ prices, not real world). There are also a few trailers involved.

When you buy your AVLBs, you will get two CEVs with each. Take 3 of them and swap out the turrets of gun tanks and you will have the blade tank in each company hq.