Bundeswehr Thread

Zocker · Post by **Zocker** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:05 pm

Hi,

I was in the 252 JÃ¤gerbtl in Northeim 1988 in the schweren Kompanie

I was in the Tank Platoon
First named PanzerjÃ¤gerzug later renamed Panzehrabwehrzug.

We hat M48 (G1 A2 or so) with 105 mm.

Teritotials are in Peacetime under the Comand of the Minsister of Defence an not under the Command of Nato.
Addional the have older Material (like M48)
There Task is to defend the Rear against Paras and Sabotage an such things.

Ad Astra
Rainer

pit · Post by **pit** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 10:59 pm

Hi,
Zocker is right.
The Teritotials are under german command in war time.
The main task is to defend Germany on german territory.

So same day like BenÂ´s picture but this time a Pionierpanzer 2 Dachs (AEV)â€¦.during work:

and after work:

best regards
pit

av8rmongo · Post by **av8rmongo** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:20 am

Does anyone have clipart or a good jpeg of the Bundeswehr cross? I'm not very pleased with the Decal options that are out there commercially so I'm going to be making my own. Thanks

Paul

pmaidhof · Post by **pmaidhof** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:39 am

av8rmongo wrote:Does anyone have clipart or a good jpeg of the Bundeswehr cross? I'm not very pleased with the Decal options that are out there commercially so I'm going to be making my own. Thanks

Paul

http://www.deutscheroffizier.de/ekbw.jpg

Paul, did a quick search on "Bundeswehr Zeichen" found the above.

Pete

jb · Post by jb » Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:08 am

Where does the Bundewehr find such tall engineers?

Back in '73-74 I used to spend time as a tank crewman (Panzertruppe) with 354th Panzer Bn out of Hammelburg...

pit · Post by **pit** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:14 pm

I remember thats this year comes the Fennek. Is that right?

So here a picture under camo with MLG (automatic granad launcher).

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:07 pm

Hi all,

Paul - at your orders

(hope this is correct English), some more photos before I start my holidays.

Pionierpanzer 2 Dachs with deep-fording equipment installed

MAN 7ton mil gl Truck towing Trailer loaded with Pionierboot (M-Boot)

MAN 7ton mil gl towing Minenverleger 85

Brandnew Duro 3P (as far as I know for EOD duties)

Best greetings mates,
Cheers Ben

voltigeur · Post by **voltigeur** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:43 pm

Voltigeur,

I have a TO&E for Territorial units of the mid 80's if you're interested. I keep forgetting to upload it to Thomas' TO&E site but maybe I can get to it tonight. Its actually the work of Ferret701 on this forum, covers all of NATO - very impressive body of work.

Thanks so much I'll pvt you with an e-mail address to send the link.

This thread is getting expensive. Was looking at the "other guys" and seeing they have Modern West Germans. I have a company of Leo 2's and a full company of Marders.

One operational question: Did the West Germans continue to cross attach platoons in the late 80's or did they keep companies together and cross attach at battalion?

One of the most interesting problems I have ever gamed is a potential Soviet crossing of the border when there is so much monitoring and so hard to get surprize.

A former troop comander of 11ACR said the best time for a Soviet attack was 1am on Saturday morning. Try to catch the NATO troops on liberty after alot of drinking.

pit · Post by **pit** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:22 pm

During my miltiary service we said that the best time to cross the boarder (for the soviets) is Friday 3 pm because every german soldier is on weekend

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Mh I only know that every brigade has a mixed battalion in wartime.

For example a tank brigade has 2 tank battalions, 1 infantry battalion, 1 Artillery battalion and a mixed battalion with 2 tank company and 1 infantry company. (+ a anti-tank company, engineer-kompany, maintenance-company, logistic-company and hq-company).

so long

jb · Post by jb » Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:33 pm

...Back in '73 when I was with the 354th Pz,we would behave on the company level.It would also seem to me that this would carry on to the battalion level. I was only a tank crew member then and really didn't get to see the"bigger" picture from there.
I do know that when we advanced and the situation called for infantry we would have a compny of panzer grenadiers (form mechlesburg?) attack with us.

av8rmongo · Post by **av8rmongo** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:07 am

pmaidhof wrote:
av8rmongo wrote:Does anyone have clipart or a good jpeg of the Bundeswehr cross? I'm not very pleased with the Decal options that are out there commercially so I'm going to be making my own. Thanks

Paul
http://www.deutscheroffizier.de/ekbw.jpg

Paul, did a quick search on "Bundeswehr Zeichen" found the above.

Pete

Pete,

Thanks that should work well once I've photoshopped it.

Paul

pit · Post by **pit** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:26 am

Fennek:

PzH 2000:

best regards
pit

Wayne · Post by **Wayne** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:02 am

Has anyone here trained at Shilo Manitoba normal known as GATES( German Army Training Establishment Shilo? If so, what units were trained there? I`m from Winnipeg and have being visiting the Germans for several years. Now that they`re gone all I see is Canadian stuff somewhat boring.

Pitfall · Post by **Pitfall** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:59 am

Those PzH 2000's are real nice! I wish I had one of my own.

dnichols · Post by **dnichols** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:49 am

If you want information on the Bundeswehr I would suggest you take a look at the free country studies available for the Modern Rules.

http://www.ghqmodels.com/pages/military ... tories.asp

TOEs and historical notes.

Daryl Nichols

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