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Reference Materials

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:39 pm
by Ducknucks
Hi guys, i've been so impressed by the standard of work that i've seen that I have finally taken the plunge, blown the dust off my modeling gear and paints, after more years than I care to remember, and am awaiting delivery of my first batch of GHQ anks.

But now have the problem of painting them as historically accurate as possible. A quick google was surprisingly dissapointing in terms of pictures, either photos or hand drawn, for that could be used as reference and insperation for painting. Amazon had a few hits for books on armour camo and paint schemes but with no pictures or review I couldn't be sure what I would be ordering would be what I want

So I thought where better to turn than to the wealth of knowledge that exists here. Can anybody recomend such a source (book, website, or other). Really I looking for german late war western front schemes and mostly pictures that I can "borrow" from to get colours correct rather than text and detailed history.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Maybe we could keep this thread alive is others want to post requests for other sources of reference or sugesions along any lines, maybe become a refence index in itself.

Any way, any suggestinos greatfuly recieved

Thanks

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:25 pm
by 1ComOpsCtr
Scroll through the various posts to get an idea what's here. The "show us your stuff" post provides photo examples of many of the members painted miniatures, infantry, vehicles, and terrain.

Will

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:24 am
by DrBig
Well, GHQ has already developed the Panzer Colors for late war, which are lightened for scale effect. So you could make it easy on yourself & get those 3 colors.

Be aware of official color periods:

http://www.missing-lynx.com/panzer_facts.htm

Also, you should buy this book if interested in Panzer Color science:

http://www.landmarkmilitarybooks.com/We ... -1977.html

The above book has camo schemes. I would suggest you halt at that point & wait to see how the coming book by Jean Restayn turns out, before spending more money on books.

Until then, use the galleries at track-link.net & missing-lynx.com for reference

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:23 am
by chrisswim
What time period are you wanting to paint for? Modern or WW2? What year? What force, army, group, type troop?

What figures are you picking up?

Re: Reference Materials

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:13 pm
by DrBig
Ducknucks wrote:Really I looking for german late war western front schemes

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:48 pm
by 1ComOpsCtr
The Germans used fairly standard colors and "local colors" depending on the period and location. The commercially available Polly'S camo colors will work for gaming unless you are looking for your models to be "perfect", in which case you have a lot of research to do. For gaming purposes "close is good enough".

Will

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:44 am
by Ducknucks
Thanks for the recomending the book, waiting for delivery now.
I'm more of a modeler than a gamer so I'm looking for that 'perfect' diorama look rather than to play with.
I'll post the results when they're ready.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:05 am
by hauptgrate
Look in used book stores for Panzer Colors, Panzer Colors II, Panzer Colors III -- published in late 70s, early 80s. Look up Steven J. Zaloga as author -- he has many books by various publishers going back to the 70s. I just saw a couple on ebay a short while ago. Look for plastic model shops in your area -- anyone who builds 1/35 scale armor will probably have several sources for you to look at -- color copiers can come in handy.

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:57 am
by DrBig
Regarding Zaloga: isn't his field primarily USSR, and sceondarily USA?

Regarding Panzer Colors: Excellent books & a buy recommendation, but be aware that there are mistakes. Best to consult modelling forums above to double check what you pull out of these

Regarding Polly S paint: they're a lot better than good enough :D . They did excellent color matching at least for their FS equivalents, are a great reference standard by themselves. Mucho better matching than Model Master did for a lot of FS colors