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1980s TO&Es
Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:08 am
by Cpl_Blakeman
I am researching for a project and would like any guidance you fine folks could give regarding the countries below and their TO&Es from 1980 to 1985. Books or websites would be a big help, thanks.
U.S.S.R.
USA
Israel
Iraq
Iran
China
North and South Korea
Argentina
UK
Germany (West)
France
Japan
Australia
Re: 1980s TO&Es
Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:30 am
by jb
Cpl_Blakeman wrote:I am researching for a project and would like any guidance you fine folks could give regarding the countries below and their TO&Es from 1980 to 1985. Books or websites would be a big help, thanks.
U.S.S.R.
USA
Israel
Iraq
Iran
China
North and South Korea
Argentina
UK
Germany (West)
France
Japan
Australia
Try this link....
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http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/TOandEs/
Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:11 am
by 1ComOpsCtr
Looks like some sort of "duplicate bug" has hit...
Let's see if this posts?
Will
Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:12 am
by 1ComOpsCtr
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Let's see if this posts?
Will
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:32 pm
by ferret701
On my website, [url]
www.microarmormayhem.com[/url], check out the NATO 1989 document; while a lot of the TO&Es are for the late 1980s, many, such as the West Germans, had not changed.
Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:15 pm
by BattlerBritain
Also try 'Armies of NATO's Central Front' by David C Isby and Charles Kamps Jr, pub by Janes 1985, ISBN 0 7106 0341 X.
Contains deployment and organisation of all NATO forces for 1985 as well as equipment specs and tactics.
Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:13 pm
by Whistle Beek
Well, there are LOTS of them here at the GHQ website!
http://www.ghqmodels.com/pages/military ... tories.asp
Or click on military models, then free rules, and then on Modern Country studies!
They are laid out for MATG - modern
Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:26 pm
by Cpl_Blakeman
Thanks, some of those don't have the exact dates I am looking for but its a good start.
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:21 pm
by WHM
ferret701;
tried the links on your page for the OOBs, they do not come up.
At least when I tried it.
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:11 am
by ferret701
Sorry about that; it is fixed now.
Pat Callahan
www.microarmormayhem.com
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:56 pm
by voltigeur
WOW!!!!!!

Just read the US Army section.
I have done a lot of research on the Cold War era. Rock climbing, Girls and 2 jobs have kept me from digging into the declassified information out there.
I love that this was backed up by a bibliography. You may diagree with the interpretation of the facts but not much room to argue the facts themselves. Much of the Reforager stuff was highly classified when I was in. My clearence included NATO access and I still couldn't see the Reforager scheme.
Fantastic JOB!!!!! Those that are tired fo the "Day One Soviet attack in Fulda" should check this out. Disposition of follow on forces and expected deployment times is a great source for scenarions taking place 2 to 3 weeks after an initial invasion.
GREAT JOB Pat!!!!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:57 am
by WHM
The deployment times shown for National Guard divisons I have heard of before. In fact I think the 50th AD, 49th AD and 1St Cav. under Third Corps, were supposed to be used to counter attack the initail invasion.
Frankly though I can not help but wonder just how real these plans were for N.G. Divisions to deploy in 30 days. A few yeras latter the same divisions were NOT considered ready for Gulf War 1.
Ok to use against the varsity but not ready for the frosh team?
Perhaps I digress, but yes, these would make for interesting scenarios.