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WWI German Battleships

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:20 am
by BlackDragon
I have recently become really interested in 1/2400 WWI naval games. I was wondering, i will soon be buying and building some WWI german battleships, but I need to know how many of each ship there was in the german navy. i have noticed that some ships say 4 in class but i dont know about the capital ships. i know that there was a baden and a bayren but only say the baden ship on the website. i guess i am a little confused when it comes to the ships that the ghq website offers and if there are more than one ship in a ships name class.


anyways if anyone could please help me out or point me to a good website it would be greatly appreicated,

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:58 am
by Jmrino
This is good site......

http://german-navy.de/hochseeflotte/ships/index.html

Can always go the wiki route too.......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ge ... Navy_ships

Hope this helps.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:26 pm
by Extra Crispy
Here is another very useful site - if you follow the links, for each ship class it lists all the ships in the class:

http://www.worldwar1.co.uk/orderof.html

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:30 am
by Mikee
BlackDragon

The Jutland website in one of the replies does give you some info. However, it isn't complete insofar as ships of the Kaiser's fleet sre concerned. There were four ships in the Posen, Ostfriesland, and Konig classes, but five in the Kaiser class. In addition to the four ships listed in the Jutland website, there was also the Konig Albert (if I remember the name right). She had trouble with her condensers, and failed to join the germans at Jutland. With respect to the Baden class, four were plannde (baden, bayern Saschen and Wurttemburg) but only two were completed. As for the BCs, in addition to the five listed at Jutland, there was also the Goeben (sister ship to the Moltke). Goeben was caught in the Med at the beginning of the war, ran from English hunters, and supposedly was taken over by the Turks. (In reality, it seems that she operated under German orders and didn't come under Turkish control until late war or after the war.) Also, Derfflinger and Lutzow had a sister ship, the Hindenburg, that wasn't operational 'till after Jutland. To close out this mob, the Germans built Blucher, which was more of a protected or armored cruiser than a battlecruiser, although it was part of Hipper's battlecruiser squadron. It went down in the battle of Dogger Bank.

To round out this mob, there were six pre-dreadhought battleships at Jutland. Five of them were of the Pommern class, and one was from the previous class.

This may help you with info.

Mikee

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:32 am
by fullmetaljacket
Another great source of information is Janes books & Conways books. Janes fighting ships of world war one is a great reference for names and how many in each class, and almost any country you can think of in world war one era I believe it covers the years from 1885 to 1920. Conways is a good book to they have a book 1890 to 1934. I have both books but not where i can read them at this time so guessing on the years.

As for how many in each class ie.. Baden there two in the class of Baden battleships the Baden and Bayren. Most classes where like that a class name and then sister ships under each class, but there was a lot of one class ships to ie.. Agincourt, Erin, Canada. Another two class was Colosus the Colosus and Hercules. You can find Janes book on ebay or at mos book stores its a must have for world war one era info on ships and navies.

As for rules I use Seekrieg 5 a very nicely written set of rules covering 1880 -1945. If you need more help send me a PM. World war one naval era is a great interest to me many ship designs and ideas, before they all became center line in world war two.

Fullmetaljacket

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:40 am
by Donald M. Scheef
With respect to warships, my preferred reference for starting is with the series of Conways books. They do not go into great details on individual ships, but seem to be quite complete in listing all classes and names. Major classes/ships usually have a fairly detailed profile drawing and at least one photograph.

There are several volumes: one covering the time span from early ironclads up to the early 1900s, one for Dreadnought through the Washington Treaty, one for early 1920s through WW II, and one for about 1950 through the mid-1990s. I haven't seen one yet for post-1990s - it may be a bit early for this.

These books are available through any of the major book sellers, but I would recommend trying the US Naval Institute. Not only are they the US publishers of the books, but they have a very wide selection of other books on naval matters - warships, history, strategy & tactics, etc. (If you are a member, there is a pretty good discount as well.)

Don Scheef