M119 105mm

30YRSGHQ · Post by **30YRSGHQ** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:34 am

I am happy to see that GHQ has released the long needed M119. Why in the World they included M35's as tow vehicles is beyond me though

.How about HMMWV's instead?

JasonAfrika · Post by **JasonAfrika** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:07 pm

Couldn't agree more brad, makes absolutely no sense.

ShortRound70 · Post by **ShortRound70** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:33 am

M-35's are the wrong tow vehicle. Hummers are more appropriate for airborne/air assault units or M-1053 2 1/2 tonners for leg infantry units. Not sure about British units. Anyway, we still need modern artillery crews to man the gun.

30YRSGHQ · Post by **30YRSGHQ** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:45 am

I would also be fine with the M1053. GHQ needs to correct this. I am surprised that they didn't include M2 Half-Tracks as tow vehicles!

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:18 pm

ShortRound70 wrote:Not sure about British units.

The British version (being the original

) of the M119 is called L118 and differs in some minor details from the M119 - but that doesn't matter (for me) in this scale.
You can use N138 named TUM by GHQ (which is more correctly the TUM-HD, also known as Pinzgauer 716M) to tow this gun. The original is towed by the same vehicle. In the times before the Pinzgauer, the British used the Land Rover 101. When operating in Norway (the British often take part in the big winter exercises there) there is a very good chance that the Bv 206 will be used instead of the truck.

Furthermore I have to second the thoughts about the odd towing vehicles which comes with this set

...

Kind regards,
Ben

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:36 pm

I forgot to mention that nowadays the BvS 10 is another option for the British. I have at last one photo in my collection showing such a constellation.

Cheers Ben

Post by **GHQ** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:12 am

In the last week and a half quite a few people have brought this to our attention. We have given the person who originally did most of the research on this some time to identify a reliable book or website that lists the M35 as the prime mover. He has not come up with anything showing that the M35 was once the standard prime mover for this gun. Consequently we are immediately changing the website listing, and repackaging all of our stock with HMMWV prime movers. We would like to thank all of you who brought this to our attention on this forum, and in e-mails. We would especially like to thank all of you who brought this to our attention in a tactful manner. We made a mistake, and are correcting it.

Thank you for your support,
GHQ

30YRSGHQ · Post by **30YRSGHQ** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:14 am

Kudos to GHQ. Thanks so much for making the change to the M998 as the M119 tow vehicle. GHQ has shown the true spirit of customer service. My apologies for being such a pain with my comments, but I was just frustrated and disappointed and felt that I needed to make a strong comment to get the desired attention - given the number of e-mails that you must receive (but in hindsight it really was a minor error to include the incorrect truck). Also, thanks for the new 1/2400th scale aircraft - they are super! Once again I apologize. Thanks again for the great service!

JasonAfrika · Post by **JasonAfrika** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:40 am

Wow, what other company do you know of, in any business, that responds so quickly and honestly to a mistake no matter how minor. Thankyou to all the great people at GHQ. I am a customer for life. Best Wishes, Jason

ShortRound70 · Post by **ShortRound70** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:24 am

Thank you for listening, GHQ! This should prove to everyone that you do read the forum. This also shows that customer service is a high priority with you. I've been a fan and customer for over thirty years, that will continue as long as I can build and paint. Three Cheers for GHQ! (Now we need artillery crews

)

Semper Fi!

Gary

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:47 pm

Hi all,

I have to second the praise for GHQ's costumer service, a very good example is evident regarding this "L119 issue".
Thanks a lot!

Kind regards from Germany,
Ben

Post by **GHQ** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:17 pm

Thank you for all of the nice comments, and understanding in this situation. This kind of thing is very important to us. We wanted to respond as quickly as possible, but we also wanted to give the person who did some of the research the chance to show us what he had found. The main point here is that the pack will now be offered with the correct prime mover. Once again, thanks to all of you who posted, and sent e-mails to us about this.

Thank you for your support,
GHQ

av8rmongo · Post by **av8rmongo** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:12 pm

Quick couple of questions for everyone here. I received my order for two packs of these guns and I am a little puzzled. The package description mentions 2/2/2 which I took to mean 2 Prime Movers/ 2 Guns Limbered for movement / 2 Guns ready for action. I was pleasantly suprised to see that there are actually 5 guns on the sprue. I can't make out any difference on the guns or trails that would indicate a distinction between limbered or unlimbered, other than where you glue the pedestal base - am I missing something? Also, I can't find any pictures of the actual gun being towed - is it towed with the barrel swung back over the trails or straight out?

If there is no distinction and I can field 10 guns that would make me happy. http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/docs/bnE036AA.htm tells me there are six guns per battery which would leave the other four for my Brits I guess. Anyone know the British fielding plan?

Paul

redleg · Post by **redleg** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:46 am

Itâ€™s been a while, but I spend some time on M119s back in OBC at Ft. Sill and this is what I remember about it:

The trails are fixed, so at this scale the only difference between a gun in firing position and one in travel mode is the location of the base plate and the location of the tube (and maybe the spade). It can be towed with the tube in either position, but I seem to recall that the tube was locked over the trails for long movements, and the tube was left in battery for short moves between firing positions. Incidentally, the quickest way to get the tube spun around to and from the travel lock is to remove one of the wheels and then replace it when the tube is in place, but a well trained crew can go from travel to laid and ready in just a few minutes.

I was always a Paladin guy, so perhaps there are some 13Bs out there that can elaborate.

-Mike

ShortRound70 · Post by **ShortRound70** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:52 am

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... d/m119.htm

Paul, check out the above url. The M-119 tows with the barrel over the trails.

Gary