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Not so painful of a purchase

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:27 am
by IRISH
Well,

My first purchase of the new releases was not so painful.
4 Maxim Gorkiy
4 Cassin class
6 Minesotas ended up only being $140.

I should be thankful for GHQ doing the Sangamon instead of the Bogue
45 @ $13.50 would run $607.50 in stead of $54.00

I have begged for the Hog Islanders as well and 110 @ $8.75 would have run me $962.50

Oh the cost of having 1 to 1 ships I'm crazy! Well that's what the wife says LOL

I guess I won't complain about the new release list anymore.

All Joking aside, keep em coming GHQ I love those ships!

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:51 am
by tstockton
IRISH,

Re: CASSIN class and AYLWIN class DD's

Wikipedia has them broken down into two classes, but notes that they were usually considered to be one class. According to both Norman Friedman's U. S. Destroyers ( pg. 28 ) and Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships: 1906-1921 ( pg. 122 ), the CASSIN class consisted of eight ships -- the "four CASSINs" and the "four AYLWIN" class destroyers (DD's 43-50).

Accordingly, you might have to petition the "family C. F. O." for another $8.75 to complete the set...

Just for the sake of "completeness!"... :lol:

Regards,
Tom Stockton

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:34 am
by Donald M. Scheef
The Cassin class consisted of four ships: Cassin (Destroyer Number 43, later DD-43), Cummings (44), Downes (45), and Duncan (46).

The Aylwin class was a repeat of the Cassin class - almost identical - and consisted of Aylwin (47), Parker (48), Behham (49), and Balch (50).

In addition, the next class, O'Brien, had the same dimensions and general layout, the same type of engines (but with an additional 1000 hp), and identical gun armament. The only significant difference was the replacement of 18" torpedoes with 21" torpedoes. The ships of this class were O'Brien (51), Nicholson (52), Winslow (53), McDougal (54), Cushing (55), and Ericsson (56).

The class following the O'Brien class, the six-ship Tucker class, had an appearance very similar to the O’Brien but was slightly larger. The major difference was internal; the cruising engines were turbines rather than triple-expansion. The ships of this class are Tucker (57), Conyngham (58), Porter (59), Wadsworth (60), Jacob Jones, (61), and Wainwright (62).

All these classes had direct-drive turbines for high-speed operation. GWS5 could reasonably reach to include the Tucker class. The 10-foot difference in length would not be readily apparent in this scale.

In 1/2400 scale, GWS5 would be acceptable for representing any of these ships. I intend to get six packs (five would cover the Cassins, Aylwins, O'Briens, and Tuckers, but I intend to get four extras for a hypothetical alternate history).

The class preceding the Cassin class, the Paulding class, was visibly smaller and had a different arrangement of the armament (5x3" guns and 6x18" TT rather than 4x4" guns and 8x18"TT). GWS5 would not do for this at all.

The Sampson class, which followed the Tucker class, had three triple 21" torpedo tubes mounted on the centerline rather than four twin 21" torpedo tubes, two pair on each side. Making GWS5 match this appearance would require significant surgery on top of accepting the length difference.

Don S.

Regarding the Cassin class

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:58 pm
by IRISH
Tom & Don,

I bought 4 packs for a total of 16 ships.
My breakdown was as such:
4 Cassins
4 Aylwins
and then finally 6 O Briens
I don't think the difference in the torpedo size will be seen "So damn the torpedos and full steam ahead!"

Bill "IRISH"

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:36 am
by Donald M. Scheef
With respect to "Damn the torpedoes; full speed ahead." this is not appropriate to the Cassin class. The existing USS Farragut at this time was a one-of-a-kind torpedo boat (later TB-11). The next USS Farragut was the Clemson class DD-300.

(OK, I know you were referring to the difference between 18" and 21" torpedo tubes - I agree with you on this. The difference is miniscule.)

Don S.