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exodusforever
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Post by exodusforever »

Laevakutt,

You were saying that NAVWAR has all the range of ships that Don has stated.
So are you also saying that their modern or post cold war variety of ship is extensive too?
Or is this just limited to WWII

havent come across these NAVWAR products before though. :S[/quote]
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Post by Laevakutt »

exodusforever,

Yes, NAVWAR carries a full line of just about every warship (and numerous commercial
ships) made from the mid-nineteenth century on. As an example they even make the E-71 Class frigates of Cold War Belgium. I cannot think of a modern warship more obscure than that. In deference to our hosts, I want to make a disclaimor though. NAVWAR is not a substitute or even in the same league as GHQ. The pieces (I would not use the word "model") are well-made but lack the definition of detail that GHQ has. Also, as I have mentioned before, they are 1/3000 scale and therefore incompatible with 1/2400. They are eighty percent of the size of the GHQ ships. I have hundreds of NAVWAR ships from when I thought I might change scales to 1/3000 several years ago. From a gaming perspective, it is probably the right decision, but my addiction to GHQ was insurmountable. GHQ satisfies modelers, collectors and gamers alike - NAVWAR is pretty much suitable only to gaming. In fact, due to their extensive line and virtual indestructability, they are perfect for gaming. Another significant problem with
NAVWAR for the North Americans is their lack of marketing. I am not sure if any North
American company carries them. There was a company in Halifax a long time ago that
imported them, but it is now defunct, I think.

The difference in scales is notable. Our scale comes from halving the size of the USN
plannning models from the Second World War era. The USN models were 1/1200, an easy scale for the English system since one foot equals 100 feet in the target scale. For some reason, that no one has been adequately been able to explain to me, the RN used 1/1000 scale during the early years and therefore the later British companies thirded (I am not sure if that is word in English) the dimensions in order to come to 1/3000. I have been told a couple of times that it was due to the metric system, however in the 1920-40s, I am not sure that the metric system was really widely used in UK.

So, while NAVWAR does indeed offer a volume of pieces that is second to none, they are not a suitable substitute for GHQ. Knowing almost nothing of the manner in which GHQ ships are developed from the idea to the product (which would be very interesting to know - maybe a link to a virtual tour of the GHQ process?), I would assume that it is
the meticulous detail and the exacting high standards that we have always enjoyed from GHQ that "slows down" the release schedule. I think that is one thing that is
important for us as "endusers" of the fruits of their efforts to understand. I seem to
remember last year there was something about a particular tank with which the
microarmour customers found issue. We as buyers have come to expect the high quality of GHQ and certainly these high standards require time. Sure, I would love the GHQ naval product lines to be as extensive as the NAVWAR ones, but I do not know if that is even possible within a realistic timeframe. The upside of that is that I would not
need a second mortgage to outfit the world's navies in miniature nor a yearlong
sabbatical to finish them.

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Post by exodusforever »

Totally agree with you Laevakutt,

I don't think NAVWAR can suffice my attention to detail.
While 1/2400 scale is very small to put the entire details of a ship down, GHQ has done the job for me and looks more convincingly like the actual ship than a hunk of matter.

Not to discredit NAVWAR for its immense collection and good variety of ships for wargaming, but I dont think 1/3000 is for me.

It is way to small and I still prefer the GHQ scale.
GHQ is a definite sans pareil in the wargaming world for modern warfare for sure.
Though I really do hope that they expand their modern warship collection just for collection sake even though at the moment, naval wargaming for modern day is not really a feasible idea.

Details Details Details.. is what makes GHQ the leading wargaming maker. On top of their great customer servicing. Keep it up and bring in more plsss... :)
Hint: Type 45 Daring Class Destroyer :p
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Post by Donald M. Scheef »

Here are some of the highlights of the Micronaut Wish List as of 2010-05-17. As with last year, we are about to see how this affects GHQ's releases for the next season.

Total number of ship types receiving at least one vote: 496 (up from 395 a year ago)

Most popular ship: UK WWI armored cruiser Minotaur class (23 votes) (same ship; up from 13 votes a year ago)

By era:
Most popular WWI-era ship: UK armored cruiser Minotaur class (26 votes)
Most popular WWII-era ship: UK battleship Lion design (17 votes) (last year’s most popular WWII ship, German pocket battleship Admiral Scheer (12 votes) was produced by GHQ)
Most popular modern-era ship: Post-Cold War UK destroyer Daring (Type 45) class (12 votes) (replacing UK frigate Leander class (5 votes) last year)

By nation:
Argentina: Malvinas/Falklands aircraft (6 votes; up from 2 votes last year)
Austria: WWI-era Tegetthoff class (5 votes; up from 2 votes last year)
China: late Cold War destroyer Jianghu I (Type 053H) class (3 votes; replacing Jianghu III class and Jiangwei II class (2 votes each))
France: WWII-era battleship Bretagne class (15 votes; up from 11 votes last year)
Germany: WWII-era heavy cruiser Lützow (14 votes; replacing Admiral Scheer)
Italy: tie between WWII destroyer Folgore class and Freccia class (9 votes each; replacing heavy cruiser Pola (7 votes last year))
Japan: WWII-era light cruiser Kuma class (unmodified) (14 votes; replaces aircraft carrier Chitose class (9 votes last year))
Netherlands: tie among WWII-era battlecruiser 1047 design, light cruiser Eendract design, and submarine K or S class (2 votes each)
Norway: WWI-era coastal battleship Norge class (1 vote; unchanged)
Soviet Union / Russia: WWII-era destroyer Type 7U class (5 votes; up from 2 votes last year)
UK: WWI-era armored cruiser Minotaur class (23)
USA: WWI-era battleship Nevada class (17 votes; up from 12 votes last year)

By type:
Aircraft carrier: Japan WWII-era Chitose class (13 votes; up from 9 votes last year)
Battleship: USA WWI-era Nevada class (17 votes)
Battle-cruiser / armored cruiser: UK WWI-era Minotaur class (23 votes)
Cruiser: WWII-era German heavy cruiser Lutzow (14 votes; replaces UK WWII-era Emerald and Enterprise (10 votes last year))
Destroyer: UK WWII-era War Emergency Classes (13 votes; up from 10 votes last year)
Escort: Germany WWII-era T-1939 class (10 votes; up from 6 votes last year)
Submarine: Italy 600-ton type (6 votes; up from 5 votes last year)
Amphibious: UK modern-era Fearless class (5 votes; up from 3 votes last year)
Auxiliary: WWII-era US aircraft transport Langley (11 votes; replaces WWII-era German auxiliary cruisers (6 votes last year))
Small craft: Germany WWII-era S-Boote (9 votes; up from 6 votes last year)
Aircraft: Cold War-era NATO aircraft (7 votes; replaces USA WWII-era early-war Navy/Marine aircraft (3 votes last year))
Other: WWII aircraft carrier deck decals (18 votes; up from 6 votes last year)

Number of ships receiving only one vote: 242

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