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Syrian Turtle Shell Camo '73

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:53 am
by HardRock
Howdy All,
I'm looking for information on Syrian camo for the 73 war, and to a lesser extant for the 67 war. I found a T-55 with turtle shell camo, link below, was this used on other vehicles. I know the T-62's had a Soviet camo, as they came straight from the factory.

http://modelingmadn ess.com/reviews/ misc/vehicles/ russia/brunot55. htm

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:44 am
by av8rmongo
Henry,

Please check your link. It doesn't seem to work.

Paul

Re: Syrian Turtle Shell Camo '73

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:51 am
by Mk 1

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:07 am
by Theodore
It is possible this is a Syrian pattern but I have never heard of it. It may be made up by the modeller. Syrian armor was reportedly supplied by the Soviets in green only and as armor was used up in the war and replace many did not have time to be camoflaged.

Syrian patterns from the time period are sand and gray over the green. I have seen pictures of the sand color varying from a yellowish sandy color to a dark mustard yellow. I've seen the grey vary from lighter than the soviet green to darker almost a WWII Panzer gray.

Camo patterns include odd splotches and some with wide bands of camo colors.

http://www.juniorgeneral.org/donated/20 ... 02/t62.png

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:41 pm
by Cav Dog
I agree it is a very cool scheme, but if you can come close to painting that in this scale my hat is off to you!

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:19 am
by HardRock
The modeler got the scheme from an old ESCI instruction sheet, for a 1/72nd scale T-55 kit.

I figure painting the scheme wouldn't be too hard, NO black lining, not going to see that at this scale.

It's very pretty and would be very different on the table.

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:37 am
by Mk 1
HardRock wrote: I figure painting the scheme wouldn't be too hard, NO black lining, not going to see that at this scale.
It really is not so difficult to do.

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My French half-tracks have a pattern which I created by outlining the colored patterns with a razor-point black pen.

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With my H-39s I painted a base-coat of desert yellow (approximation of French Jaune-Ochre), and then painted brown and green patches, leaving seperating lines of the under-coat to form the outlines.

Neither was very difficult to achieve.
It's very pretty and would be very different on the table.
I certainly like the look! :wink:

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:54 pm
by HardRock
I'll have to give the pen bit a try. Never know how it will turn out, until I try, could be good or bad. One figure will be the testbed.

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:01 pm
by Theodore
Found a picture of the lighter scheme depicted by Steven Zaloga in his books and models.


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This is a picture in the darker scheme of dark gray and mustard yellow.
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You also mentioned 1967, most of the evidence is that Syrian vehicles in 1967 were plain soviet green often with white writing dedicating the vehicle in the name of a martyr from earlier wars often from 1948. I have seen pictures of rear echelon units using plain green vehicles with white tactical markings into the 1980s.

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:58 pm
by HardRock
Thanks, those are cool and will make seperating units easier by using them all.