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M-ATV, Replacement for the HUMMV?
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:01 am
by jb
Oshkosh Corporation Awarded $1.05 Billion Delivery Order to Supply M-ATV to Soldiers, Marines
OSHKOSH, Wis. – June 30, 2009 – The U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) announced today it has selected Oshkosh Corporation (NYSE:OSK) to supply MRAP All Terrain Vehicles (M-ATV) for its fighting forces. Oshkosh has received an initial delivery order from the U.S. Army Tank-automotive and Armaments Command (TACOM) Life Cycle Management Command (LCMC) for 2,244 M-ATVs valued at $1.05 billion, following months of government testing on multiple production-ready vehicles...
http://www.oshkoshdefense.com/defense/p ... v~home.cfm
jb "I saw a bunch of them on flatbed railcars today, and I didn't know what they were..."

I am wondering if GHQ will have these, & others that Oshkosh makes sometime in the near future

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:32 am
by Donald M. Scheef
Based on recent past performance of US Government purchasing policies, it would probably be a good idea if GHQ waited a few years to see if a significant number of these vehicles will really be built.
Don S.
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:15 am
by 33YearsGHQ
Actually, unlike days of old, these are rapidly rolling off the assembly line to serve in Afghanistan where they are specifically designed for. Better performance in the hills & mountains than up-armoured HUMMV's. This would be a great model for later in 2010.
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:34 am
by jb
...I saw another train load of these go by today...
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:43 am
by Mk 1
Does this mean that the
CSI Miami team will need to get new vehicles, too? What about Ahhnold the Guvinator? See, these things need to be thought through! There are ripple effects throughout the whole economy!
I wonder if inside knowledge of this upcoming deal had anything to do with GM's efforts to dump Hummer-America on the Chinese...
'Course it always seemed a bit odd to me that the Chinese nixed the deal because the Hummer wasn't "green" enough, given that they still operate 90% of the world's coal-burning locomotives.

So maybe they figured out they would be behind on the branding of military hot-rods to the civilian market. I mean, who would want to buy a Hummer once the 2012 model Matver's come out?

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:09 am
by chrisswim
Well, buy stock in Oshkosh, that is $467,000 per vehicle. Nice ticket. Wish I was the sales guy on that on.
Thank you for the post and info, oh take your camera to work so next time a train goes by you can get multiple photos. Thank you.
Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:07 am
by jb
I finaly got a picture of one of the trains hauling these beauties. Sorry but I had to take the picture with my phone as the train steamed by. I will try to get some videos in the near future...

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:36 pm
by echoco
Lurker here
A few years back when I read about the requirements for these, the Marines said they wanted a vehicle that could carry 6 (half a squad) so I guess they changed their requirements here.
Re: M-ATV, Replacement for the HUMMV?
Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 11:53 pm
by Theodore
jb wrote:Oshkosh Corporation Awarded $1.05 Billion Delivery Order to Supply M-ATV to Soldiers, Marines
...
I am wondering if GHQ will have these, & others that Oshkosh makes sometime in the near future

Well they are actually being used in combat so that seems to be a strike against them going into production. GHQ focuses on vehicles that have never been on a battlefield rather than troops and vehicles that we could use to fight historical wargames..
Re: M-ATV, Replacement for the HUMMV?
Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 9:15 am
by jb
jb wrote:Oshkosh Corporation Awarded $1.05 Billion Delivery Order to Supply M-ATV to Soldiers, Marines
OSHKOSH, Wis. – June 30, 2009 – The U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) announced today it has selected Oshkosh Corporation (NYSE:OSK) to supply MRAP All Terrain Vehicles (M-ATV) for its fighting forces. Oshkosh has received an initial delivery order from the U.S. Army Tank-automotive and Armaments Command (TACOM) Life Cycle Management Command (LCMC) for 2,244 M-ATVs valued at $1.05 billion, following months of government testing on multiple production-ready vehicles...
http://www.oshkoshdefense.com/defense/p ... v~home.cfm
jb "I saw a bunch of them on flatbed railcars today, and I didn't know what they were..."

I am wondering if GHQ will have these, & others that Oshkosh makes sometime in the near future

... made the new list! Way to go GHQ

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:07 pm
by TAMMY
The original order for 2.244 M-ATV should have been completed in March, but in the meantime the vehicles on order have raised to 8.079. So they will become a quite common view.
Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 7:14 pm
by Timothy OConnor
Any guesses as to armor protection vs small arms fire? I would think at least 7.62mm but what about 12.5mm or even 14.5mm?
The lower hull appears to have the now standard v-shape to disperse IED blasts. RPGs would probably still be a serious threat, no?
Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 9:15 pm
by TAMMY
It is difficult to state the actual level of protection. It is defined as "a welle desogne Plasan armour". Additional kits for protection against RPG have been ordered and under installation. They should be quite important as the width of the vehicle goes from 2,4 to 2,7m.
The V-shape of the bopttom is a good protection sgains IED or mines on the road but what is the protection against IED on the side of the road or sucide cars filled with explosive? In Afghanistan the size of IED is increasing.
Anyway I think that it is adequately prtected aginst the usual threats without too much increase in weight.
My only doubt is about its actual mobility in the mountain. The vehicle is large and at 15tons quite heavy too. I have never been in Afghanistan but I know the Italian Alps, and there are many areas that such a vehicle would have a lot of difficulties to cross.
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:44 pm
by jb
Has anybody ordered some of the GHQ M-ATVs? I saw a picture of one of the models next to a group of 3 M-109 models and the M-ATV seemed to be the same size as the arty; is this true?