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Web Site in German Language
Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 5:06 pm
by Schwerepunkt
There is a website in German that has line drawings of many designs to be built by the Heer in the 1946-47 time period: Nast-Sonderfahrzeug.deHeer'47-Zeichnungen. It is a fascinating series of line drawings including various designs for APCs, armored bridge placement vehicles, tanks, stugs, etc.
Many of these may be imaginary but some are authentic designs. The site also contains models and photoshop pictures which are incredible. Any devotee of the Werhmacht 47
line needs to see this site.

Bob/Schwerepunkt
Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 6:14 pm
by piersyf
Not that I'm interested in the Wehrmacht '47 line, but the name you gave draws a total blank on Yahoo search engine. If the site you found does not sell items that compete in any way with GHQ then I think the moderators will not object to a full URL if you choose the post it.
Here is the full url
Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 8:12 pm
by Schwerepunkt
Nast-Sonderfahrzeug.de/fotosammlung/thumbnails.php?album=25
If Yahoo does not show this, you are mis typing the URL. This is complete and takes you to the page with the line illustrations.
Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 8:14 pm
by Donald M. Scheef
I have had the same result as piersyf - nothing but two facebook addresses with Nast-Sonderfahrzeug and several hundred for just Sonderfahrzeug (as I had expected) but none that match the described site.
If possible, Bob, could you send me a PM with the full URL? Perhaps you could send one to piersyf.
Don S.
Full URL
Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 8:42 pm
by Schwerepunkt
is as I put it in the second thread. The home page is as follows: Nast-Sonderfahrzeug.de/fotosammlung/index.shp. This comes from the site.
Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 9:30 pm
by TAMMY
An "e" is missing. The address is Sonderfahrzeuge
I got the site with this
Tammy, thank you, and my apologies..
Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 11:33 pm
by Schwerepunkt
...to Donald and piersyf for the error which threw both of you off. Duh, one cannot mistake a dufuss in action, I guess.
I would like to know what you think of the vehicles described in the discussions. There are some great models shown on the home page (not 1/285) and tables of equipment characteristics and the photoshop simulations of tactical situations. The E90 I have been informed is a myth but I believe many of the stug/flak and other modified vehicles could have been done off of the E75 or E100.
The Pioniere bridge using the E100 chassis is extroardinary but again, I feel that this may be a myth. In any event, thank you Tammy for your keen observation and expertise in German.

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 5:04 am
by piersyf

No problem, we all do it. And thanks for the correction TAMMY. As to the site itself, it looks pretty good; I bookmarked even though it doesn't really interest me as a subject area. I suspect some of them are just 'mix and match' vehicles made from available or proposed components, so while perhaps they were not a part of the official plan (such as it was) those other vehicles could be 'might have beens' from the intended 'might have beens'.
I agree with you on the bridge; the scissor bridge looks too modern. The design was used by the UK during the war so not impossible, but I think it pretty unlikely. Just my opinion, going on gut feelings.
Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 5:11 am
by Donald M. Scheef
OK; I fond it now. There are some very interesting hypothetical vehicles. I agree that some of these are fictional, albeit plausable for Wehrmacht '47.
The Bison (Schutzenpanzer E90) and Bueffel (Schutzenpanzer E50) are much too large for armored personnel carriers. The Katze (Schutzenpanzer E25) and Katzchen (Schutzenpanzer E10) are much more reasonable.
I was very pleased to see that the Jagdpanther II (Panzerjaegerwagen E50) mounted the fighting compartment to the rear with a front-mounted engine, although I would have done this for all the larger Panzerjaegerwagen as well.
In the faux photo section, there is a nice picture of an E100 in London.
Don S.
E-100 and E50..
Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:20 pm
by Schwerepunkt
seem to be the primary chassis used for SP guns and Stugs. The E90 is imaginary so E75 would be next in line and certainly have enough size to take most guns in the Heer inventory. All of the flak vehicles are true designs (I believe).
One item left out is the Waffentrager's but those were designed prior to the end of the war and might be considered earlier Heer weapons. In any event, I hope that GHQ would look at some of these beauties and put some out over the next couple of years.
Bob/Schwerepunkt
