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MATG and MS WWII Funkwagen

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Hi guys,

I´ve got two German SdKfz 15 (Funkwagen) with my german Sample Packs. As I´m currently building and organizing my Wehrmacht forces, I searched the TO&Es for that vehicle. But I did not find any trace of that car...

Any ideas, where this car was used? I´m actually building a Infantry Company / Panzergrenadier Company plus a Tank unit featuring 10 Pz. Mk.IV, 2 Panther A, 1 Panther II and 1 Tiger I. So i thought this funkwagen should establish the radio connections between the involved Companies / Platoons...???

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It can be used as a command car for your commanding officer. That's what I would do.
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At Platoon scale, in MATG, it really plays no role other than an alternate vehicle to mount on the transport stand for the HQ or GHQ of a battalion or higher command. I do this regularly for my units. I use the SdKfz 251//11 as the HQ or GHQ transport stand of my panzer grenadier units. For pure modeling purposes I use it in addition to the transport stand for the GHQ as an element of the regimental headquarters company.

As far as stats go for it treat it as a light truck and have fun!
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Aaah, okay, got it...

So I think as long as I´m far far away from a battalion-sized force, I will use it as a command car for my company-HQ instead of the Kübekwagen that is listed in the TO&Es... Maybe I´ll be the proud owner of a German Infantry Battalion someday ;-)

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Re: MATG and MS WWII Funkwagen

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Ragnar65 wrote: I´ve got two German SdKfz 15 (Funkwagen) with my german Sample Packs. ...

Any ideas, where this car was used?
The Horch Kfz. 15 was present in many TOEs. As others have mentioned, it was common as a command car, found in HQs of almost any formation that was motorized (and many that weren't). You can find it in both company-level and battalion-level HQ units.
So i thought this funkwagen should establish the radio connections between the involved Companies / Platoons...???
Kettengrads (Sd. Kfz. 2) carrying pack radios, or purpose-built armored cars, would have been more common as radio vehicles. For example, Wikipedia (yeah, I know, but it's the best I can come up with on short notice :roll: ) lists the radio platoon of a German Recon battalion as having:

Signal Platoon

HQ Section -
1 mc, 1 mc with sidecar
1 Kfz 15 car

2 x pack radio sections "b" each with Sd.Kfz 2

1 light armoured radio section "b" with 1 armoured car Sd Kfz 260

4 x light armoured radio section "c" with 1 armoured car Sd Kfz 261

3 x med armoured radio section "b" each with 1 car (Kfz 15) and 1 armoured car Sd Kfz 263

I´m actually building a Infantry Company / Panzergrenadier Company plus a Tank unit featuring 10 Pz. Mk.IV, 2 Panther A, 1 Panther II and 1 Tiger I.
If you are planning to play MATG, I think you are describing a pretty powerful battalion-sized Kampfgruppe of 2 full companies of Mk IVs, an understrength company of Panthers, and an HQ Zug of Mk IVs. (Don't have the MATG rules, but they are 1-to-platoon scale, so that's about how it should stack up).

So a battalion HQ, and some recon or signals support, would be completely reasonable.

The Romanians also used them to tow AT guns. It seems likely to me that the Germans would too, even if the TOEs didn't show it, as they were often starved for motor transport and did lots of substitution in the field.

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Re: MATG and MS WWII Funkwagen

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Ragnar65 wrote:Hi guys,

I´ve got two German SdKfz 15 (Funkwagen) with my german Sample Packs. As I´m currently building and organizing my Wehrmacht forces, I searched the TO&Es for that vehicle. But I did not find any trace of that car...

Any ideas, where this car was used? I´m actually building a Infantry Company / Panzergrenadier Company plus a Tank unit featuring 10 Pz. Mk.IV, 2 Panther A, 1 Panther II and 1 Tiger I. So i thought this funkwagen should establish the radio connections between the involved Companies / Platoons...???
Ragnar:
I'm assuming we're talking about the "soft top"car from the G-77 pack...
One place to find these quickly is to look at KStN's for early war motorized infantry units.
They were almost exclusively communications and command vehicles.
You will find them in staff companies, and in the HQ of such things as heavy cpy's., leIG and Pak, etc...
Fortunately, in this scale they are very similar to the Kfz 12 medium car version that was widely used to carry weapons and as a light tow vehicle for leIG and 37mm Pak and similar.
edit-
You can find many KStN at this site-
http://www.wwiidaybyday.com/
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Cool site Kiasutha,
It is all in German and when Google asks me if I want it translated and I say yes, it didn't do anything in my browser (Google's Chrome). But it is still very cool as I can understand a lot of it anyway.

One question though, that I'm sure some the frequent readers will be able to answer for me, what does the abreiviation MOT Z stand for? I've encountered it in other TO&E documents of the KSTN lists and have yet to puzzle out what it means for myself.

Thanks

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RedLeif wrote: One question though, that I'm sure some the frequent readers will be able to answer for me, what does the abreiviation MOT Z stand for? I've encountered it in other TO&E documents of the KSTN lists and have yet to puzzle out what it means for myself.
Hey, I´m on my way to find out. As soon as I have any answers, I´ll post them here... ;-)

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Okay, got it... :-)

mot Z stands for "motorisierte Zugmaschine", could be translated with "motorized Tractor".

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Post by kiasutha »

Sorry about the german language site; it was the easiest place I thought of to show use of the "15" car.
I see you found the "mot Z" ;essentially indicates motorized "towed" equipment .

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