Help Identify This Casting

Hugewally · Post by **Hugewally** » Thu May 26, 2016 8:04 am

Ok, I know it's not GHQ, but does anyone have an idea what this is supposed to be a model of? I ask, as a bunch of us don't know. Besides being a poor casting, I'm thinking the end of the barrel is broken off. Keep in mind, rear door(s), driver on the right, 5 road wheels.

chatto · Post by **chatto** » Thu May 26, 2016 9:57 pm

If that is what I think it is... it is a Scotia TAM tank with the end of the 105 barrel removed...

Of course... could be well out of synch but that is what it reminds me of.

Cav Dog · Post by **Cav Dog** » Thu May 26, 2016 10:09 pm

Looks like a 76 mm Scorpion based on the road wheels and front drive sprocket. Driver's hatch is on the wrong side though...

Shrug

av8rmongo · Post by **av8rmongo** » Thu May 26, 2016 10:58 pm

chatto wrote:If that is what I think it is... it is a Scotia TAM tank with the end of the 105 barrel removed...

Of course... could be well out of synch but that is what it reminds me of.

I thought it might be the TAM as well but the road wheel count, front deck details and driver's position are wrong.

I thought it could be the French MARS 15 light tank prototype, which would make the road wheel count and drive sprocket work but driver's position is still wrong.

I don't know.

Cav Dog · Post by **Cav Dog** » Thu May 26, 2016 11:18 pm

FV432 with a Rarden turret and a broken gun.

Hugewally · Post by **Hugewally** » Fri May 27, 2016 1:23 am

Cav Dog wrote:FV432 with a Rarden turret and a broken gun.

Too much is different to be that...

33YearsGHQ · Post by **33YearsGHQ** » Fri May 27, 2016 2:42 am

I also thought it was the Scotia TAM, but it was a pretty decent model and had 6 road wheels - so there goes that theory. Definitely not any FV-432 either

Cav Dog · Post by **Cav Dog** » Fri May 27, 2016 3:12 am

Looks like a kit bash between a 432 with a Rarden turret and a 433 SP gun:

https://www.google.com/search?q=fv432+w ... kkQgY0M%3A

http://arcaneafvs.com/FV433Abbot.html

Definitely 430 series chassis - driver on right, front drive sprocket, 5 road wheels, return rollers between first two and last two road wheels.

I think it is supposed to be an Abbott SPG with a badly modeled turret.

Hugewally · Post by **Hugewally** » Fri May 27, 2016 4:41 am

Possible Abbot hull, but the turret is neither a Rarden or Abbot turret.

av8rmongo · Post by **av8rmongo** » Fri May 27, 2016 7:13 am

is this the only one you have? Is it possible it is a kitbash of an Abbot hull and some other turret. Even for Scotia that turret is way off for either an intentional Abbot or Rarden turret. I think I may have some Abbots down in the basement come to think of it. Now if I can just find them.

Thinking about it... Perhaps the gun, from a non-Abbot turret, was intentionally broken off to better simulate the shorter howitzer barrel.

chrisswim · Post by **chrisswim** » Fri May 27, 2016 7:24 am

The hull was produced by In-Service, based upon some similar hulls that I have with mine dispenser and another that is just an APC. I will look for a few of my models to take some pics.

av8rmongo · Post by **av8rmongo** » Fri May 27, 2016 8:35 am

chrisswim wrote:The hull was produced by In-Service, based upon some similar hulls that I have with mine dispenser and another that is just an APC. I will look for a few of my models to take some pics.

Chris,

That's what I started thinking. Here's my old photo:

The hull details match up if they either filed down the super structure or In-Service made another variant.

Hugewally · Post by **Hugewally** » Fri May 27, 2016 8:59 am

The Abbot has a flat turret front, so...

How what the heck is that mine dispenser thing?

BTW - my buddy has 5 of them...

av8rmongo · Post by **av8rmongo** » Fri May 27, 2016 3:39 pm

Okay, now I'm not so sure. I checked the old In-Service Miniatures catalogs on the Micro Armor Mayhem site and they have no French vehicles listed at all. So if it isn't ISM then who made it?

chrisswim · Post by **chrisswim** » Fri May 27, 2016 8:30 pm

Paul, that is the vehicle.
I think it was called 'Puma'. Had the APC, the mine dispenser as you show for Germany, had an ADATS turrets on an extended/elevated arm, and TOW ATGM that I recall seeing.

The gun turret made me think that it was a MBT-70 model prior to any prototypes being release(hypothetical guess).