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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:31 am
by MechCommander
Theres the BattleTechs Branth Aerial Beast Infantry models from Iron Wind Metals there sort of like dragons comes in on ground and in flight variants, plus there in 6mm scale.
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:38 am
by panzergator
Geez, Cama, have you gone round the bend? DRAGONS? A DRAGON is a SHOULDER-FIRED ANTI-TANK WEAPON!
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:38 am
by panzergator
Geez, Cama, have you gone round the bend? DRAGONS? A DRAGON is a SHOULDER-FIRED ANTI-TANK WEAPON!
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 4:14 pm
by panzergator
Perhaps cama is trying to suppress the imagi-natio movement on the forum with a little poking fun... or maybe he misses Puff.
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:30 pm
by panzergator
One cannot "make" a dragon. One must find one in the wild and ask it VERY politely if it will be your friend. It will examine your character and decide. If the answer is no, it will become invisible to you and you will never be able to see it. It may even kill you. If the answer it's yes, you must never tell anyone.
The most interesting kind of dragon is genus M60A2. It breathes fire at an extensive range and, when it passes gas, it expels a quite large projectile to some distance. Both must be avoided at all costs. It is not predictable which end will be active in an encounter. It roars when moving, expelling a pungent odor, it's claws scratching and clanking, tearing the earth. It sees in the dark. It easily crushes cars beneath its feet, knocks over trees and buildings. Beware this and all dragons. They are easily angered and unpleasant when in that condition. The M1 species is even more dangerous. It's hide is extremely tough. It's rear end produces a hot breath and it spits lethal stones.
It is not wise to trifle with dragons.
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:50 pm
by BattlerBritain
Love this thread
But I need a Dragon as well.
In the old SPI boardgame 'Air War' they had a scenario of F-15s vs a Dragon.
It was epic!!
Dragon had a speed of 1 but it's fire breath 'cannon' had a range of 3 (I seem to recall). Dragon could turn whatever it liked.
Think A-10s vs F-15s or Game-of-Thrones vs F-15s.
Would be fun to do in miniature.
B
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:17 pm
by panzergator
I think some of you guys are in the wrong forum.
Or maybe the wrong planet.
Or maybe in the wrong life.
Or maybe sitting in the latrine with nothing to do but let your mind wander.
PULL UP! PULL UP! BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!
The Dragon forum is three doors down.
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:43 am
by 7.62
Panzer, I like your genus of Dragon.
I am in the market for a new modern MBT and have it down to one of three types.
Whichever type is selected, it will now be locally know as the Dragon.
Thanks.
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:58 am
by panzergator
If I were putting together a modern notional tank unit based on my whim, I would select either Challenger II or Merkava IV. I have read of some difficulty with the Challenger ammunition, and Merkava fires standard NATO 120mm for the smoothbore gun. Now, you may be looking at Russian or Chinese products, which I don't consider. I don't consider LeClerc or Leo II versions. The French notoriously scrimp on armor and the Leo has proven most unsatisfactory for the Turks in combat.
This assumes you intend the tanks for the usual role.
I am interested in your decision.
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:19 am
by MechCommander
Would the Canadian version of the Leapord 2 tanks work for you?
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:24 am
by panzergator
A Leo is a Leo is a Leo. But this is your choice, not mine. I think the armor protection is inadequate.
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:06 am
by 7.62
The short list is .
Leo 2 with a L55 (so 2A6Can would qualify).
A super T72/90 (I'm thinking of using T72 Tusk for this).
K2 (there is the L55 again).
The Challenger 2 TES made it into the first round as did the Merkava 4 but did not pass.
I intend to modernize the whole Yer bouti Force so a big part of this selection will be how the MBT will fit in to the new armed doctrine, not just the basic numbers (ie mine is bigger/better than yours).
Imagine trying to get the best bang for your buck if you are the head of the Military with a open minded government in power but with limited budget and a long list of replacement needs.
I will decide by the end of this weekend.
Fire away.
Mick.
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:17 am
by MechCommander
the NDA largely uses the Leapord 2A4 CAN, and some Leapord C1s but not uncommon to see M4A4 Sherman's being used.
Imperial Quebec probably Leapord C1s but they do locally produce the LeClerc tanks.
anyway 7.62 hows the yer bouti website coming?
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:25 am
by panzergator
K2 is tailored for Asian stature, so keep that in mind. Russian tanks also have height limitation, which their population can sustain. what is your 70 percentile stature? Will you get the export version? Will you know?
I have watched some YouTube of Russian tanks... Impressive mobility. You get the same number of tanks for the same price.
Russian products are designed as a round of ammunition to be expended. They aren't meant to be sustained over a period of combat. There are good things and bad things about that, too. They just replace the whole unit when it reaches a certain limit of attrition. Is that in keeping with your capability and philosophy?
How about the CV90105? Commonality with potential mech vehicle - CV9040 or CV9030. Admittedly, 105mms not as capable, but who is your potential opponent?
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:28 am
by panzergator
If it is any consolation, my budget is pretty much shut down until sometime next year. I need to improve my mech to tank ratio (self imposed philosophy) by acquiring 3more M113A2 mech bns, complete a stateside H series ACR, acquire 2/3rds of a US heavy tank bn (50 more M103s), get 2 J series 155SP Howitzer battalions, and some things like med platoons, maintenance/recovery sections, a couple more engineer platoons, and upgrade my Vulcan/Chap ADA Bn.
The Gator State depends on these forces to defend its sovereignty in the face of recent developments to the north, and of course, CofC is always looking for ways to impose additional taxes through the UIN, which may require more than diplomatic protest and maneuver. Of course, combat crews are continuously perfecting their skills. The US Army has graciously permitted GS additional training facilities at Ft. D.A. Russell in Wyoming. Its facilities are the very latest and provide some variety for the crews.