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A dude named Fireball had an idea a few weeks ago. If you want to skip the imagi-nation posts simply avoid them.

There is no requirement that you read imagi-nation threads before you continue to those that interest you. Neither must you stand in line to read the ones you want.

Didn't you just say that imagi-nations are all that is on the forum? If you are the essence of the forum then you are the essence of the imagi-nations! LOL

And again, if imagi-nations are all that is on the forum, then I have contributed greatly!

If that's what you want to do on the forum then please proceed. I'm focusing on what I enjoy and I would expect others to do the same. If we create another fantasy forum I'm good with it. If imagi-nations stay here I'm good with that too. If you want to complain about it you can do that too. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy in your posts.

Fireball,

There is much I would like to say about your constant rant about the evils of the imagination, but in the end it does not matter. You hate them and you will continue doing this until you get them removed or someone pisses you off enough for you to pick your marbles up and go home for a while.

However, one thing I will say, you are not the essences of this site. People are the essence of this site. People are, not Fireball. Through this site, I have met so many great people and learned so much on how to work on miniatures. This happens here more than I would have from anywhere else. Notice I said people. This site is a community of people.

In closing, I am on this site everyday. In each of the times you have disappeared, there was not a drop in participation, more people did not flee and if anything, it was a lot more peaceful.

Imagi-nations are a way members may game by long distance. They don't have to travel long distance once or twice a year, spend a lot of money, or even move a lot of metal. The forum brings folks together in a different way, still encouraging the purchase, painting and use of metal, as well as promoting the hobby in general over a broad spectrum of different aspects.

Given that, object all you want, but imagi-nations belong on this forum. You can hook 'em to your rubber ducky, or not, Boy.

Fireball,

You can express your point of view.. That is the great thing about this site. You most definitely have that right and its welcome. But your constant ranting about imaginations, is no longer an expression of your opinion, but more of an on going rant and a campaign.

I agree with Panzergator, I am currently in a war game with Redleg, Chris and Mech that is based around the imagination stuff. In fact, its breathed new life into collecting and my hobby. Not only does it give me a chance to war game when I have little opportunity to do so, but it helps GHQ because I am going to start building an army based around my imagination, which will result in greater spending on my behalf.

GHQ does not make decisions on who is allowed on this site base on there contribution. That is the great thing about the site.. Its self regulated by members and they have a really great hands off approach. You are still on this site because there is no reason for you not to be and there is no reason for you to be banned.

Last, I never thought you were a bad person or any level of bad. Your perception of that is self imposed and some people might say you are projecting. Rather I see you simply as the old man that yells at every one to get out of his yard. Regardless of if they are in his yard or not. I am willing to wager that you are a nice guy that cares about his friends, definitely cares about his children and is probably very generous to the people around you. You still yell at people to get out of your yard, but you can also be both.

FB, you can express your point of view. You have. Can others express their view? They can.

ADD VALUE, quit the fussing. You may find UIN less than worthy, Don’t read it, skip the UIN stuff.

There are other threads, enjoy them. Imagine a young guy who likes WW2, the sees your posts: I am the wonderful FB here to give wisdom. Or you guys write the wrong stuff, your topic is crap, etc. I am sure you can find a MENSA forum.

On Feb 29, this year you posted fussing about this forum and the UIN topics. I do not read Consolidated Micronaut, but it offers value for others with is the audience.

At the moment you came to the forum, then looking around opened a UIN type thread, you were evaluating the thread. At that moment in time it was the best use of your time. As at this particular moment this is the best use of my time....urrrrgh.
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I gotta go. Quit the fussing, add value, extract value if you can or go else where.

Fireball,

Many of your posts are interesting, but this is getting tiresome. You are not the center of attention here, it is the work and interest of the entire community. If users want to discuss how they use GHQ Microarmor to enjoy themselves - just collecting, Imagintions, other wargaming, painting, requesting new products, then that is what it is for.

We get you are having issues and want to discuss certain things. Then do so. Don't fill them with rants about how central you are and how other threads are unworthy. You have been offered advice from various people and the moderators haven't banned you. Lighten up.

Fireball,

Who said we were or were not friends, Why in the past tense. Are you so black and white? I good friend tells you the truth and exchanges ideas. Every bit of advice I offer is constructive and as a friend of someone in the community. I have also reached out to you with support and kindness. As to never commenting on your post till recently, might want to go back and check your threads. Also, I am betting that if you go and look at your PMs, there is an exchange between you and I.

As for limiting things to history, that is crazy.. you would greatly limit war gaming to things that have already happen. In fact, that is why younger people don't like "historical" war gaming. They have no attachment to that stuff. That is why 40K and fanatasy war gaming is so popular and I can say with confidence that the number of conventions out there for those type of games eclipses those of historicasl.. In the US that is definetly the fact. This is easily validated. I bet there is even market research that show it.. There is countless pubs around here that are centered on playing 40K and fantasy... There are tons of people in my area that play fantasy and not historicals.

Finally, as for Imagination stuff being fair tales.. so is every battle that someone has fought that did not happen.. So no WWIII scenerios, No fictitious flash points in the middle east unless its the gulf war., no second civil war.. Why are those things more valid.. Would it be better if the Evil Empire was called Russia? Why is is not plausible that Oregon and Washington would be tired of what is going on with the nation and form there own country why would battles between the remaining states and this new nation be fantasy... O wait.. that is really close to the civil war but in modern times with a different cause to rally around. Now I am not going to sit here and say that I am on board with all that goes on in the imagination links.. but who cares. people are having fun.. I will bet you that there are far more people that have created there own nations to fight a battle on the table top when they are board with this or that. I bet many people silently build an army with Challenger II tanks and Korean IFVs because they like them.. Put a Russian paint scheme on a German Leopard.

Mike Robel,

I was dancing around those exact words, Not sure why. That was well said.

Soooo, what's worse than imagi-nations? Ranting about the quality of the posts when one's ONLY CONTRIBUTION HAS BEEN RANTING ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE POSTS.

Out up or shut up, Fireball. On this forum, a RANT DOES NOT qualify as quality.

Fireball,

I do know what you mean and you can have fun with all your colorful fun jabs you are making. its ok and have broad shoulders. LOL , I understand you. You are know quantity and to your credit, you are true to who you are. I can respect that on some level. I will not continue to spar with you on this, it is what it is and you are who you are.

In the end, you miss the point in what people have said. The simple fact that you ended your last post with "I just have to figure out if you guys deserve it". I am pretty sure I was on this forum before you and there was not this over whelming ray of light that blinded everyone when you joined. However, you are a valued contributor, and there are things you have contributed that has helped people with information. Such as when you emailed me the Russian organization information. I thank you now as much as I did then. However, I can point to tons of people that have made far greater contributions to this site than you and I combined. Some have passed and some have left the hobby but there collective work is here for everyone.

So voice your opinion and contribute as much as you like.. but if you keep patting yourself on the back and singing your own praises, you can't get made if people get annoyed.

I think I have hit my threshold on this topic. Not more I can add to it and its starting to go in circles. Want to respond to this, by all means.. want to continue this conversations, PM me. I have tanks to paint and grand kids to play with. Have a great evening..

That my friend is up to you.

I've missed some stuff what with not being able to see and all. I'm recovering nicely from eye surgery but these old eyes cant take looking at computer screens for more than a few minutes without difficulty. Luckily they'll hit the second eye just as the first one is done healing. What I've read is somewhat disappointing. I get that FB is annoyed by the large proportion of activity ties up in imaginations and others are annoyed by him mentioning it. I see some posts that seem like borderline personal attacks on here and that annoys me.

I understand the imaginations as a chance to almost play by post on the forum ultra modern AARs, pitting valiant soviet technology against the imperialist Amerikanskis. And that's fine. I've said before I'd just like a moderator to run the game (though that might exist and I just haven't "seen" it [semi-blind joke]). But they're not for everyone. And that's ok too.

Let's all be cool and look past what we don't like and focus on posts and make more poats for what we do. I'd love to see more AARs for instance. Maybe i'll set up a table and make some myself. Fair warning though, they'll be all Great patriotic war as I have no imperialist armor. Also, FB, you can totally be a dude and Uncle Fireball.

Must go now and take more meds. Eye is killing me tryin gto read.