SCENARIOS

sfcgreg29er · Post by **sfcgreg29er** » Tue May 09, 2006 6:56 am

Thought I would start a new topic. After seeing all the great models and terrain posted on the forum its time to put it all together and start rolling some dice. I've painted enough tanks, halftracks and infantry to create the US 4th Armored Division and almost enough German stuff for a complete German Armored Division. I thought it was time to create a scenario to pit them agaisnt each other. I signed out the US Army in World War 2 "The Lorraine Campaign" book published by the Center of Military History from my local post library. This book can also be found on the web on the CMH's website. The great thing about this series are the maps. I decided to come up with a scenario that would refight the 111th Panzer Brigade attack on Juvelize and the subsequent counterattack by the 4th Armored on 22 September 1944. There is a map in the book that helped me to create the hex terrain for the battle. The only thing left to do is to come up with the order of battle. Here is how I put together the terrain and pics of some of my 4th Armored units.

First the map from the book.

My sketch of the map for creating the hexes, 1" = 100 yards.

A pic of the completed terrain. Lezey in the foreground, Juvelize in the upper right, and the saltworks on the right.

View of the 111th Panzer assualt on the 25th Cav Squadron screen from the NE

View of the 111th Panzer approaching Juvelize.

View of Co A 37th Armor BN poised for the counterattack on the high ground N of Lezey.

View of scratch built bridge I made to cross the marshy area in front of Juvelize.

View of Co C 37th entering Lezey and 10th Armored INF deployed around the saltworks.

View of Co B 37th deployed between Lezey and Juvelize.

I use Micro Armor the Game -WW2 rules using 1 stand = 1 platoon. Any help coming up with the OOB for this scenario would be appreciated. I have an OOB from a Panzer Leader scenario I found on the web but would like to get more input from others. Once I figure it out, I'll post it for everyone.

Mobius · Post by **Mobius** » Tue May 09, 2006 7:24 am

I have Osprey book Lorraine 1944 by Zaloga and it covers this time period. In particular the 22nd was a bad day for the Germans. The fog lifted as they were moving to attack and they took a shellac'n from artillery and P-47s.

Your map shows Acoy 37 moving toward the German arrow. But the text says they stood on the hill and engaged the Germans with fire as artillery was also called on the Germans.

sfcgreg29er · Post by **sfcgreg29er** » Tue May 09, 2006 8:12 am

Mobius,

In the the book from CMH, where I got the map, it states that some of the 37th's tanks circled to the NW and seized the hill at les Trois Croix looking down into the valley east of Juvelize where it engaged German reinforcements moving in from the Bois du Sorbier. Fourteen enemy tanks were destroyed at ranges from 400 to 2000 yards. So I guess the axis of attack is correct. Or maybe the fog of war. Or maybe they wanted a closer look at the destroyed enemy tanks after the P-47s had ther fun!!

Here is the OOB from the Panzer Leader scenario that I referred to.

US:
6 - M4 Sherman 75mm tank plt
3 - M4 Sherman 76mm tank plt
3 - M5 Stuart tank plt
1 - M4 Sherman 105mm How
2 - Hellcat plt
3 - M7 Priest btry
2 - M8 armored car plt
9- Infantry plt
3 - 57mm AT gun plt
1 - 81mm motar plt
13 - halftracks
P-47 air support

GERMAN:
5 - Panther
6 - Mk IV
13 - Infantry
1 - 81mm Mortar
2 - 120mm Mortar
2 - 75mm How guns
2 - 20mm AAA
1 - 37mm AT gun
1 - Wirblewind
1 - 88mm AT
1 - 150mm How
12 - trucks

I think it would be cool if the attack started on time and you would roll the die at the end of each turn to see if the fog lifted. The Germans would have to make the best of time in order to gain the upper hand.

Mobius · Post by **Mobius** » Tue May 09, 2006 8:28 am

A coy probably followed up the Germans after they started to retreat from being hit by tanks, artillery and aircraft all at once.

Mark Mc · Post by **Mark Mc** » Tue May 09, 2006 4:36 pm

Ah the Panzer Brigades,
The Panzer Brigades are basically a three Battalion formation for gaming purpose, 1 Pz Grenadier Battalion and 2 Panzer Battalion.
The 111th Panzer Brigade was only formed up at the end of the war and did not see combat like the 100th and 101th Pz Brig. The Pz Gren Battalion was made up of 33% veteran Troops from some smash formation (I can,t remember the formation of the top of my head) and had trained the recruits quite well and are worthy of a veteran status, the Panzer Battalion on the other hand were all Green/Trained troops.
The formations information I have collected,

Brigade HQ
Command stand
SdKfz 251/1
M/C Recon
Staff Radio H/T

Panzer Battalion Trained, Total 9 Pz V
Pz Bat HQ with Pz V and a Mobelwagen
3xPz Coy with 2 or 3 Pz V each

Panzer Battalion Trained, Total 5 Pz IV
Pz Bat HQ with Pz IV and a Wirblewind
3xPz Coy with 2 or3 Pz IV each
Jagd Pz Coy with 2 STuG IV

Pz Gren Battalion Veteran
Pz Gren Bat HQ with Command and SdKfz 251/1
2x Pz Gren Coy with 3x Pz Gren stands, 3x SdKfz 251/1, SdKfz 251/21 Drillings and a SdKfz 251/9
Heavy Coy with SdKfz 251/9 and 2x 120mm Mortars with Trucks

Assault Engineer Coy with a SdKfz 251/17 and 3x SdKfz 251/16 Flame

Hope this formation helps with the 111th Pz Brigade. Love your board looks great.

jb · Post by jb » Wed May 10, 2006 1:39 am

Nice job! It looks like a smashing time was had by all.

BattlerBritain · Post by **BattlerBritain** » Wed May 10, 2006 1:34 pm

Lovely write-up of your game.

I love the terrain - looks good enough to eat.

What buildings are those? They look familiar. And great job on that bridge - well done.

As for 100 series Panzer Brigades I seem to remember seeing an article somewhere on their organisation. I'll have a look.

I've also got the Osprey book on the Lorraine Campaign and that's quite good.

I also seem to remember seeing a mini-Campaign in Command Decision on this somewhere.

BattlerBritain · Post by **BattlerBritain** » Wed May 10, 2006 1:42 pm

Not quite a perfect match for the GHQ rules but still useful anyway:
http://www.fireandfury.com/extra/downlo ... ig1944.pdf

tstockton · Post by **tstockton** » Wed May 10, 2006 3:46 pm

sfcgreg29er,

Very well done! Your terrain is quite impressive, and the "adpatation" of the "real" map to a playable "game" map serves to illustrate how we can use Terrain Maker to model "the real world"!

One question, if I may... I would guess that you have built hexes with this specific scenario in mind. So far, I've just been building hexes as I felt like building them -- with no overall "purpose" in mind. (I must admit, I collect armor in the same way... yeah, I know... I'm weird... my dear spouse tells me that on a regular basis, but she keeps me around, so I must not be TOO weird!

)

I suppose, in an "ideal world", one would have enough hexes of every terrain type so that one could throw together a scale representation of any piece of real estate. But if you've built hexes with a specific goal in mind, I think it serves as a wonderful example for the rest of us!

Ive thought of seeing if I could "adapt" some other maps -- such as the Adavanced Squad Leader series -- into a 3-D version of the same... I know that the old Avalon Hill company "dabbled" in that vein with two of their releases (Streets of Fire and Hedgerow Hell, if I recall correctly)... I'm just curious if others have made that connection.

Again, excellent photos, descriptions, et al -- thank you very much for sharing with us! I look forward to more postings!!

Regards,
Tom Stockton

ACWBill · Post by **ACWBill** » Wed May 10, 2006 10:38 pm

Hey guys, check this one out. While running my Bloody Lane Scenario at Recon in Tampa, another guy named Bill was setting up his Micro-Armor Stalingrad scenario using Terrain Maker Hexes. It was stunning, but I had no time to watch it develop as I had to run my game. I thought ya'll would appreciate this fellows fine efforts.

The pic was taken by may friend Danny Secary.

Here is a link to his Recon 2006 Photo Gallery if interested.

http://www.pbase.com/x6ftundx/recon_2006&page=4

ACWBill · Post by **ACWBill** » Wed May 10, 2006 10:41 pm

Sorry guys, I guess it will not link to the image properly.

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » Wed May 10, 2006 11:27 pm

Excellent work. Reminds me of Close Combat 3, the Russian Front missions.

BTW, anyone up for a game of that?

Mobius · Post by **Mobius** » Thu May 11, 2006 1:25 am

="Thunder"
BTW, anyone up for a game of that?

Wow! That much city scape will take a long time to clear building by building if they have several squads defending each building.

tstockton · Post by **tstockton** » Thu May 11, 2006 1:34 am

Thunder,

NICE picture! If I count correctly, I see 3 half-inch hexes used as risers under each of the edge pieces... which tells me there is a "deep" valley or ravine on somesuch at the other end of the board... and if the "aggressors" have to come up to the city that way, they'll be fighting up-hill... eeeeek!

If you have more pictures, I'd love to see them!

Regards,
Tom

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