I am overly excited about the forth coming releases. My orders will be as follows:
2 South Carolinas, 1 Vanguard, 5 Slavas, 4 packs of Tashkents, 3 Minotaurs, 6 Midways, 1 Admiral Hipper, 6 Pittsburghs, 3 Kumas, 1 Shinano and yes 110 tower Hills 78 Doxfords and 32 for the Forts that were similar.
I am listing the carriers not yet produced hoping that maybe 1 or 2 of these will make the cut for the next production year. I am hoping for another merchant or 2 if the Tower hill does well.
Missing Carriers: 28 different classes ( 4 could be represented by 2 models** )
US Navy:
USS Langley AVP
USS Saipan CVL
USS Long Island CVE*
USS Bogue CVE**
USS Commencement Bay CVE
UK Navy
HMS Argus CVL
HMS Indomitable CV
HMS Implacable CV
HMS Eagle CV
HMS Malta CV
HMS Unicorn CVL
HMS Colossus CVL
HMS Majestic CVL
HMS Audacity CVE
HMS Nairana CVE
HMS Activity CVE
HMS Campania CVE
HMS Pretoria Castle CVE
HMS Archer CVE ( Long Island type )*
HMS Attacher CVE ( Bogue Class )**
Ameer CVE ( Bogue Class )**
Japan
Unryu CV
Aso CV
Hosho CVL
Chitose CVL
Ryuho CVL
Ibuki CVL
Taiyo CVE
Kaiyo CVE
Shinyo CVE
Keep them coming GHQ
IRISH
1/2400 Scale Aircraft carriers MIA
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1/2400 Scale Aircraft carriers MIA
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Carriers not yet produced
Irish, here are some additions to your list. These are not completely missing as technically they are represented in some way but not in the configuration that I would like to see.
1. Enterprise/Yorktown 1942. Currently GHQ makes the Hornet but the Hornet was actually a half sister to the other two and had a few changes. We don't have these two ships as they appeared at Coral Sea and Midway in the case of the Yorktown and Midway and ** CENSORED ** for the Enterprise. In my opinion this is a big gap that needs to be filled.
2. Lexington as she appeared at Coral Sea. The currnet model depicts her as she was just prior to the war and at the outbreak of hostilities. At Coral Sea the 8 inch turrets had been replace by AA guns.
3. Saratoga in 1942. Currently we have the Saratoga in 1944 or the very early version as per Lexington.
Have a great day!
Pete - Binpicker, Out!
1. Enterprise/Yorktown 1942. Currently GHQ makes the Hornet but the Hornet was actually a half sister to the other two and had a few changes. We don't have these two ships as they appeared at Coral Sea and Midway in the case of the Yorktown and Midway and ** CENSORED ** for the Enterprise. In my opinion this is a big gap that needs to be filled.
2. Lexington as she appeared at Coral Sea. The currnet model depicts her as she was just prior to the war and at the outbreak of hostilities. At Coral Sea the 8 inch turrets had been replace by AA guns.
3. Saratoga in 1942. Currently we have the Saratoga in 1944 or the very early version as per Lexington.
Have a great day!
Pete - Binpicker, Out!
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Re: 1/2400 Scale Aircraft carriers MIA
That is quite an order! Are you planning to play both world wars as campaigns?IRISH wrote:I am overly excited about the forth coming releases. My orders will be as follows:
2 South Carolinas, 1 Vanguard, 5 Slavas, 4 packs of Tashkents, 3 Minotaurs, 6 Midways, 1 Admiral Hipper, 6 Pittsburghs, 3 Kumas, 1 Shinano and yes 110 tower Hills 78 Doxfords and 32 for the Forts that were similar.
IRISH
Seriously, I am a little curious about the 6 Midways as we only commissioned 3 of them. Are you including cancelled hulls or doing modified versions as well as building the kits straight out of the package?
Always respect the law of gross tonnage (aka "bigger boat wins")
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Order
Battlewagon & Don;
In regards to the Midways, yes I am including the 3 that were cancelled.
As far as the Kumas Don, No I am using the Oi & Kitagami as they were converted so I only need the 3 that were in their original form.
4 Tashkents packs even though only the 1 was built, but the class projected 12.
I collect for 1-1 for built or projected. So far the Libertys are the killer group.
IRISH
In regards to the Midways, yes I am including the 3 that were cancelled.
As far as the Kumas Don, No I am using the Oi & Kitagami as they were converted so I only need the 3 that were in their original form.
4 Tashkents packs even though only the 1 was built, but the class projected 12.
I collect for 1-1 for built or projected. So far the Libertys are the killer group.
IRISH
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Ahoy Irish!
If you actually purchase 110 of the upcoming TOWER HILL merchant ships, especially if you did it all at once, I'd bet that the good folks at GHQ would let YOU pick the next Merchie to be released in 1/2400 scale. Wow - just think: that would make for one really big (and expensive) package arriving at your mailbox!!
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Kevin
If you actually purchase 110 of the upcoming TOWER HILL merchant ships, especially if you did it all at once, I'd bet that the good folks at GHQ would let YOU pick the next Merchie to be released in 1/2400 scale. Wow - just think: that would make for one really big (and expensive) package arriving at your mailbox!!
All the Best -
Kevin
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IRISH
Oh would that be nice
Kev;
Good to hear from you and OH would that be nice, but I would have to put it to a vote for all us Merchant ship wanters.
Would we want a Japanese Merchant, Italian or American the next go around?
Hmmmmmm choices choices gotta think on that one LOL
IRISH
Good to hear from you and OH would that be nice, but I would have to put it to a vote for all us Merchant ship wanters.
Would we want a Japanese Merchant, Italian or American the next go around?
Hmmmmmm choices choices gotta think on that one LOL
IRISH
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Re: “Would we want a Japanese Merchant, Italian or American the next go around?â€:
If limited to the three nations listed, I would vote for one of the Japanese standardized merchant ships built during the war. They built 457 of the Type 2E (small general-purpose transports), 131 of the type 2A (larger general-purpose transports), and several hundred total of a dozen other types. Most of these have not been modeled by anyone in 1/2400 scale.
My second choice among the three listed nations is the US “Type 1022†(aka Hog Island A). About 110 were built at the end of WWI, most of which survived into WWII (with several dozens sunk in WWII convoys). Sea Battle makes a model (very expensive) and Viking Forge makes a licensed copy (much lower cost but castings not a good).
Another US ship design I would like GHQ to produce is the C1 type standardized design of WWII. 219 of the C1-M-AV1 sub-type were built, about half of which became part of the USS Alamosa (AK-156) class. In civil hands, they were given “knot†and “coast†names. Viking Forge makes a model of the Alamosa, but a GHQ model would be better.
I would like to see some Italian merchant ships but don’t have any specific ship or class in mind. I know of only two sources of Italian merchant ships in 1/2400 scale: Sea Battle makes a good but expensive model of Conte Grande (seized by the US in 1941 and used as USS Monticello (AP-61)) and Panzerschiffe produces a pack of Italian merchantmen. The quality of these resin models is will below the metal castings of other manufacturers but the cost is low. The major shortcoming of this pack is that about 1/3 of the ships are unique passenger liners. You have to pay for excess copies of these ships to get a reasonable number of the more common transports and oilers in the pack.
But why limit the next merchantman to Japan, Italy, or the US? I would suggest one of the British oilers built during and immediately after WWI. Many of these remained in service into the 1940s. For example, “War *,†“*leaf,†and “*ol†types were built in significant numbers. France, Germany, Soviet Union, and the neutrals should also be considered.
Don S.
If limited to the three nations listed, I would vote for one of the Japanese standardized merchant ships built during the war. They built 457 of the Type 2E (small general-purpose transports), 131 of the type 2A (larger general-purpose transports), and several hundred total of a dozen other types. Most of these have not been modeled by anyone in 1/2400 scale.
My second choice among the three listed nations is the US “Type 1022†(aka Hog Island A). About 110 were built at the end of WWI, most of which survived into WWII (with several dozens sunk in WWII convoys). Sea Battle makes a model (very expensive) and Viking Forge makes a licensed copy (much lower cost but castings not a good).
Another US ship design I would like GHQ to produce is the C1 type standardized design of WWII. 219 of the C1-M-AV1 sub-type were built, about half of which became part of the USS Alamosa (AK-156) class. In civil hands, they were given “knot†and “coast†names. Viking Forge makes a model of the Alamosa, but a GHQ model would be better.
I would like to see some Italian merchant ships but don’t have any specific ship or class in mind. I know of only two sources of Italian merchant ships in 1/2400 scale: Sea Battle makes a good but expensive model of Conte Grande (seized by the US in 1941 and used as USS Monticello (AP-61)) and Panzerschiffe produces a pack of Italian merchantmen. The quality of these resin models is will below the metal castings of other manufacturers but the cost is low. The major shortcoming of this pack is that about 1/3 of the ships are unique passenger liners. You have to pay for excess copies of these ships to get a reasonable number of the more common transports and oilers in the pack.
But why limit the next merchantman to Japan, Italy, or the US? I would suggest one of the British oilers built during and immediately after WWI. Many of these remained in service into the 1940s. For example, “War *,†“*leaf,†and “*ol†types were built in significant numbers. France, Germany, Soviet Union, and the neutrals should also be considered.
Don S.
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IRISH
Carriers
Don;
You have some great ideas on the Merchants I like them all.
My thread is going south so I am going to turn it around.
My thoughts on the Carriers would be 3 oldies to begin with.
USS Langley, although she had been derated to a Aircraft transport she played a historical role in the defense of Java and paid the price being sunk.
IJN Hosho, she only played a role in the Midway Operation and then the role of a training carrier. She was the first built as a carrier in the world.
Good ol ditty box Argus, she did her duty for the Brits, serving as a training carrier and then filling the gap after the British lost several carriers. She was vital in Malta's defense.
There are other carriers like the Indomitable and Implacble class or the Chitose class, but I'ld like to see those 3 as well.
Any thoughts on carriers guys?
IRISH
You have some great ideas on the Merchants I like them all.
My thread is going south so I am going to turn it around.
My thoughts on the Carriers would be 3 oldies to begin with.
USS Langley, although she had been derated to a Aircraft transport she played a historical role in the defense of Java and paid the price being sunk.
IJN Hosho, she only played a role in the Midway Operation and then the role of a training carrier. She was the first built as a carrier in the world.
Good ol ditty box Argus, she did her duty for the Brits, serving as a training carrier and then filling the gap after the British lost several carriers. She was vital in Malta's defense.
There are other carriers like the Indomitable and Implacble class or the Chitose class, but I'ld like to see those 3 as well.
Any thoughts on carriers guys?
IRISH
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I am much more interested in surface warfare than aircraft carriers, but if you ask my opinion, here are my choices for new GHQ aircraft models:
- Japanese Chitose class: The only 1/2400 scale models for this class are in resin from Panzerschiffe. The ships did have combat significance, being used as sacrificial pawns for Operation Sho-Go.
- British Argus: Historically significant because this was the first continuous-deck aircraft carrier. Relegated to transport duty at the start of WWII because of slow speed, the Argus proved vital to the defense of Malta. The more modern British carriers had smaller elevators and hangers, so they couldn't handle aircraft without folding wings. The only 1/2400 scale model of this ship is in resin from Panzerschiffe.
- US Enterprise and Yorktown as they appeared in 1942. No one makes a 1/2400 model of these ships as they appeared at Coral Sea, Midway, and Guadalcan*l. These were very important ships in these very important battles.
I eliminate Langley because she was no longer an aircraft carrier in 1942. With half her flight deck removed, aircraft could neither land nor take off from the ship. Still an interesting ship that I would like to have modeled, but not an aircraft carrier.
Don S.
- Japanese Chitose class: The only 1/2400 scale models for this class are in resin from Panzerschiffe. The ships did have combat significance, being used as sacrificial pawns for Operation Sho-Go.
- British Argus: Historically significant because this was the first continuous-deck aircraft carrier. Relegated to transport duty at the start of WWII because of slow speed, the Argus proved vital to the defense of Malta. The more modern British carriers had smaller elevators and hangers, so they couldn't handle aircraft without folding wings. The only 1/2400 scale model of this ship is in resin from Panzerschiffe.
- US Enterprise and Yorktown as they appeared in 1942. No one makes a 1/2400 model of these ships as they appeared at Coral Sea, Midway, and Guadalcan*l. These were very important ships in these very important battles.
I eliminate Langley because she was no longer an aircraft carrier in 1942. With half her flight deck removed, aircraft could neither land nor take off from the ship. Still an interesting ship that I would like to have modeled, but not an aircraft carrier.
Don S.
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IRISH
Release ideas
OK I came up with some release ideas
1. IJN Hosho, USS Langley, and HMS Argus 2011-2012
2. IJN Taiyo, USS Bogue, HMS Audacity 2012-2013
3. IJN Chitose, USS Saipan, HMS Unicorn 2013-2014
4. IJN Unryu, HMS Indomitable, HMS Indefatgable 2014-2015
5. IJN Aso, HMS Eagle, HMS Malta, HMS Colossus 2015-2016
6. IJN Shinyo, USS Long Island, HMS Nairana 2016-2017
7. IJN Ryuho, HMS Majestic, USS Commencement Bay 2017-2018
8. IJN Kaiyo, HMS Activity, HMS Campania 2018-2019
9. IJN Ibuki, HMS Pertoria Castle, HMS Archer, Attacker & Ameer Class ( Bogue )
2019-2020
Ughhh even if GHQ did 3 a year it would take 9 years ohhhh the wait.
IRISH
1. IJN Hosho, USS Langley, and HMS Argus 2011-2012
2. IJN Taiyo, USS Bogue, HMS Audacity 2012-2013
3. IJN Chitose, USS Saipan, HMS Unicorn 2013-2014
4. IJN Unryu, HMS Indomitable, HMS Indefatgable 2014-2015
5. IJN Aso, HMS Eagle, HMS Malta, HMS Colossus 2015-2016
6. IJN Shinyo, USS Long Island, HMS Nairana 2016-2017
7. IJN Ryuho, HMS Majestic, USS Commencement Bay 2017-2018
8. IJN Kaiyo, HMS Activity, HMS Campania 2018-2019
9. IJN Ibuki, HMS Pertoria Castle, HMS Archer, Attacker & Ameer Class ( Bogue )
2019-2020
Ughhh even if GHQ did 3 a year it would take 9 years ohhhh the wait.
IRISH
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UKN31 is the early-war HMS Eagle (pennant number 94), which was sunk in 1942.
The HMS Eagle requested in this thread is the late-war design (pennant R05, a contemporary of USS Midway). This ship was a war-time design, launced in 1946 but not completed until 1951.
btw, there have been 15 other ships named HMS Eagle (plus one not completed). Since the British have recycled ship names more than any other country, it becomes important to provide an additional means of identification, such as pennant number or year of launching or commissioning.
Don S.
The HMS Eagle requested in this thread is the late-war design (pennant R05, a contemporary of USS Midway). This ship was a war-time design, launced in 1946 but not completed until 1951.
btw, there have been 15 other ships named HMS Eagle (plus one not completed). Since the British have recycled ship names more than any other country, it becomes important to provide an additional means of identification, such as pennant number or year of launching or commissioning.
Don S.
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That's one vote for Malta in the Consolidated Micronaut Wish List.
Malta is described in the Comprehensive Micronaut Wish List, 1925-1949 era aircraft carriers. It's an impressive design; unlike Eagle (which was a contemporary of Midway but significantly smaller), Malta was a match for Midway.
I think one reason that Malta has not had previous support is that, unlike Midway, Eagle, and Shinano, none of the ships were completed (or even laid down).
Don S.
Malta is described in the Comprehensive Micronaut Wish List, 1925-1949 era aircraft carriers. It's an impressive design; unlike Eagle (which was a contemporary of Midway but significantly smaller), Malta was a match for Midway.
I think one reason that Malta has not had previous support is that, unlike Midway, Eagle, and Shinano, none of the ships were completed (or even laid down).
Don S.