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HAHAHA as usual, U r too Kind Mk1..
I do know for a fact that Gompel and ur works are really stunning and fantastic.

And I am way way behind on such skills...

But yeah, I must say.. I'm not really a fan of forums.. but if there is anything i am most involved in for a forum. It would be this one :)

Really gives a total unique atmosphere of sharing pictures and experiences.
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Seascapes and basing

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Now that the topic of seascapes and basing has been broached, I have a question for everyone on this thread. I've been naval wargaming since the mid 70s and I've always put all my ships on bases. In all those years, I've never yet been truly happy with my "ocean". The color just never is right, to my mind. I've tried many paint shades straight out of the tin/bottle and I've also tried mixing my own shades many a time. I'm just never pleased with the result. I'd love to hear that there's some "magic bullet" out there that I've just not yet discovered. I'd be grateful to hear everyone else's solution to this problem.
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DAVIDNOLA62 wrote:I've never yet been truly happy with my "ocean". The color just never is right, to my mind. I've tried many paint shades straight out of the tin/bottle and I've also tried mixing my own shades many a time. I'm just never pleased with the result.
Part of the problem is the ocean itself. What ocean are you trying to do, where, when? If you spend any time on or near the ocean then you know that they are not all the same. The N. Atlantic is not the S. China Sea etc. And the same ocean is not the same in summer and winter or Tuesday and Friday for that matter.

The other issue is what type of finish do you want - gloss, matte or whatever? My opinion, based on 20 years in the Navy, is that the ocean isn't shiny, regardless of the lyrics of some patriotic song. Sure when the sun angle is low its pretty alright but when you're looking at it from most angles it isn't really that shiny. Of course that's just my opinion so try out a couple different finishes and see what you like.

Bottom line is there is no "right" answer, experiment a lot, figure out what you like and go with it.

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Seascapes

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Thanks Paul. Years in the Army meant I saw very little sea. Mud and jungle i know front and back!! Perhaps a semi-gloss finish then? I tend to hop about quite a bit geographically. SW Pacific, the Med, Baltic, Black Sea.
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My PLAN force is almost complete. I just have to do up the deck markings and hull numbers but I thought I would share a picture of their current state. These are from Viking Forge. Represented here are a pair of Luyang-II, a pair of Luyang-I, a pair of Jaingkai-I and a quartet of Jianghu-I. Anyone want to battle for the South China Sea?

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South China Sea challenge

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...Sure Paul. H4 I presume?
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Re: South China Sea challenge

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jb wrote:...Sure Paul. H4 I presume?
Of course! Is there really anything else?

In other news...

If you've ever seen the ebay auctions for 1/2400 scale aircraft carriers from Furuta and thought about getting them - don't.

I got a good deal on one from a friend in Japan, just to see what they're like so I bought the USS Enterprise CVN-65 model. It arrived today and like most of the Furuta offerings it is intended as a desktop model not a game model. This particular one is not a waterline model although the hull depth is not really accurate either. The biggest issue is the length, at 4.75 inches it is about 15% short for 1/2400 scale but pretty close to 1/3000 scale. If you're a 1/3000 person then this model would be fine once its sanded/filed down to waterline but for 1/2400 its just too small. If you're into 1/300 then read further.

Okay, if you're still with me the kit comes with 2 E-2 Hawkeyes molded as one piece so they look kind of flat. There are 4 F-14 tomcats with fully swept wings, the nose on these looks very stubby IMHO. And then there are six aircraft that I can't positively identify. They have a pointy nose, single tail, swept wings, possibly twin engine. the swept wings appear to be high mounted and there is no dihedral/anhedral to any of the flight surfaces so its not an F-4. Single tail so not F-18. Empenage is fairly close to wings and it has a pointy nose so its not an attempt to make an A-6/EA-6. It might be an attempt to make an A-5 Vigilante. Whatever it is it isn't representational of modern airwings. The other issue is the deck is molded with holes to glue the airplanes into. If you want to determine your own aircraft spotting you'll have to fill in the holes.

Bottom line: If you want to get a cheap replacement for a metal ship and aren't concerned about accuracy then go for it. Mine is going to my son. If he wants to break it I'm not worried and it just might get the next generation of wargamer going.

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[Edit: I don't read Japanese but the limited documentation that comes with the model doesn't say any particular scale - so it could just be the company marketing it on ebay that said it was 1/2400. Either way its not 1/2400.]
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Cavite Blue

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Bit of advice please. What's everyone's favorite formulation for making Cavite Blue?
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Re: Cavite Blue

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DAVIDNOLA62 wrote:Bit of advice please. What's everyone's favorite formulation for making Cavite Blue?
You can get Cavite Blue from Snyder & Short. They claim to match to original formulation.

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Cavite Blue

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Paul, I spoke to Randy Short and he says they don't have any single paint for Cavite Blue. Though he recommended several mixtures , I thought I'd see what everyone here used
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Hmm... That's interesting, I saw they had a paint chip for it I assumed they had a paint for it as well. What mixture did they recommend?

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Post by DAVIDNOLA62 »

A base of White Ensign's 5-N and the addition of Testors Light Gray (1163). Lt Gray amount to vary according to how faded you're looking for. I'd just be interested to hear other theories before i begin experimenting with mixtures
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USS Russel and Russian DDG Boyevoy I did a couple or so years ago..
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Pictures! I love pictures!

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So I've been playing around with my new PLAN ships and Photoshop while trying to build up scenery skills. I know its a slow newsday but seriously what else would I be doing. Anyway, the end result is pretty cool I think, take a look...

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Okay, I'm sure I didn't fool anybody but I still think the picture was pretty cool. It was sent to me by a friend and fellow Harpooner who is an Able Seaman on USNS Artic. The PLAN Type 054 Frigate was escorting merchant ships in the Gulf of Aden when they crossed paths.

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