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IRISH · Post by **IRISH** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:20 am

thank you ghq for the discount, my belated christmas gift from my wife is on it's way... 4 katoris class light cruisersand 16 hog islanders plus my order of 82 hog islanders for a total of 98 hog islanders and 4 yes 4 not 3 katori light cruisrs katori, kashima, kashara and kashii

TAMMY · Post by **TAMMY** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 3:30 am

There were only three of them. The Kashiara was never buillt. Its constructon was srtopped a few months after lalid down.

dragon6 · Post by **dragon6** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:13 am

I'm sure he realizes that. It's just that Irish is a completist... even if it's more. I admire his dedication

SKeeM · Post by **SKeeM** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:01 am

Well I will be very impressed if he paints all 98 Hog Islanders. Good luck man!

cinctim · Post by **cinctim** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:26 am

Nitpicking a bit, but all of my references have the incomplete ship named as the Kashiwara, and I too will probably add to the fleet.

TAMMY · Post by **TAMMY** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:35 am

Agreed. Wiki gives Kashihara but all the other sources write it as Kashiwara.

About adding cancelled ships, remember that the original contract was for 156 Hog Island type A but 58 were cacelled.

dattrains · Post by **dattrains** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:17 pm

In researching the "Hog Island" Type A (Design 1022) which the forum has referenced 98 ships built I came across the following:

Under usmm.org there is a list by name of 122 Hog Island ships built with 110 Type A and 12 type B troop transports.

Under shipscribe.com there is two lists and text with 110 Type A built and no cancellations plus 12 Type B troop transports built out of a total contract of 70 vessels with 58 cancelled.

Under globalsecurity.org there is text that states 110 Type A were built and 12 Type B troop transports at 8,400 tons and 12 Type B troop transports at 13,400 tons but only list 12 Type B troop transports by name.

It appears that 110 Type A were built and 12 Type B for a total built of 122. Any thoughts.

TAMMY · Post by **TAMMY** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:17 pm

No. The total built were 122 divided as follow.
98 Cargo ships (type A) (12 cancelled)
12 troop transport at 8.400 t (Type B) (46 cancelled)
12 troop transport 13.400 t (Type B)

dattrains · Post by **dattrains** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:50 pm

I see your example under the globalsecutity.org site on the Type B section (12 at 8,400 tons and 12 at 13,400 tons) however the list only has twelve ships, as does the Type B list in the usmm.org site and shipscribe.com site and all three sites have 110 completed for the Type A ships. Below are the 12 on the list, do you know the names of the other 12 Type B ships?

Hull,USSB Name, Navy Name,American Merchant Line Name,

669 Shohokin, Cambrai, American Traveler
670 Shohola, Cantigny, American Banker
671 N/A, Chateau Chaumont, N/A
672 N/A, Saint Mihiel, N/A
673 N/A, Argonne, N/A
674 Siskowit, Somme, American Importer
675 Sisladobsis, Aisne, American Merchant
676 Sisseton, Ourcq, American Farmer
677 Sitkum, Marne, American Trader
678 N/A, Chateau Thierry, N/A
679 Skanawono, Tours, American Shipper
680 N/A, Wright, N/A

TAMMY · Post by **TAMMY** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:44 pm

After further checking I have found the complete list of the Hog Islander planned and built

http://www.shipbuildinghistory.com/hist ... e/aisc.htm

This confirm your data: only 12 Type B were built.

I suppose that he mistake is due to the tonnage. The two values are not of different ships but simly empty and full load. This seems evident looking at USS Samaritan (a type B)

dattrains · Post by **dattrains** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 12:44 am

Thank you for checking and also another good site on the list of Hog Islanders.