Just noted in passing

panzergator · Post by **panzergator** » Wed May 17, 2017 10:04 am

Read an article that said Germany is re-activating and upgrading some of their Leopard IIs, which will bring their active Armor establishment to 328 tanks. That's roughly equivalent to ONE US armored division's tanks.

Does anybody have any more info on this, verify or correct?

chrisswim · Post by **chrisswim** » Wed May 17, 2017 4:07 pm

I read same or similar themed article. Pulling Leopard 2s out of storage, providing extensive upgrade to the Leopard 2A6 standard. The article I read indicated that they military spending will increase with that to the level as prescribe by the NATO agreement.

Brutzel · Post by **Brutzel** » Wed May 17, 2017 6:51 pm

It's an old news. It is already about 2 years ago.
By the ukraine crisis the number is increased to 328 leopard 2.
Here the german message:
http://www.n-tv.de/politik/Bundeswehr-k ... 74526.html

panzergator · Post by **panzergator** » Wed May 17, 2017 8:07 pm

Thanks, Brutzel. I guess the German army is a mere shadow of its Cold War self, just like ours.

paul · Post by **paul** » Wed May 17, 2017 10:43 pm

I'd say a lot worse than ours. Three hundred and twenty tanks is a shadow of what they once had.

Brutzel · Post by **Brutzel** » Thu May 18, 2017 1:35 am

panzergator wrote:Thanks, Brutzel. I guess the German army is a mere shadow of its Cold War self, just like ours.

Germany is only a vassal from the US and I think that the dismantling of the tanks was commanded by the USA. Germany does not do anything without an agreement with America.

panzergator · Post by **panzergator** » Thu May 18, 2017 1:45 am

I am sorry you feel that way Brutzel, but I will not enter into a political debate on this forum.

Brutzel · Post by **Brutzel** » Thu May 18, 2017 1:56 am

OK

Oh, I am on the best way to set up the Leopards of the Bundeswehr. 60 Leopard 2 I have already.^^

panzergator · Post by **panzergator** » Thu May 18, 2017 3:15 am

Brutzel, perhaps you could help me with current organization of a German panzer kompanie and panzergrenadier kompanie, as well as the respective battalions. How many per platoon and how many of what type in each battalion?

Brutzel · Post by **Brutzel** » Thu May 18, 2017 2:30 pm

I think, this is all what you need:
http://www.panzerbaer.de/units/default.htm

In the Link "Heer der Zukunft Panzerkompanie PzKp RK (Planung 2003 ff)" is a mistake.
That is the right one:
http://www.panzerbaer.de/units/bw_hstr_5n_pzkp_vk.htm

panzergator · Post by **panzergator** » Thu May 18, 2017 8:20 pm

Brutzel,

Ausgezeichnet! Danke sehr!

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