Let's See Russian Armor
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pmskaar
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Re: Let's See Russian Armor
By the way, that is an impressive collection of WWII Russian armor, Gazza!
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pmskaar
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Those Scarabs look very nice, Chris! I have 3 of them at home, still unpainted, but not sure how to use them in a game except as a target or an objective.
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redleg
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Re: Let's See Russian Armor
Hey guys, I need some help with Soviet / Russian units. I want to build a tank regiment, and a motor rifle regiment from the 1990s timeframe and I am using FM 100-2-3 (The Soviet Army, dated June 1991) as my guide.
What I currently need help with are battalion command posts. From looking at the tables, it appears to me that a tank battalion has 2 x BTRs for a command post, and a motor rifle battalion has 3 x BTRs.
Can anyone confirm or deny this?
And if confirmed, does anyone know how the CP was set up? Were they specially modified BTRs? Did they park them next to each other and throw a tent extension up, like the US does with M577s? I haven’t been able to find any pics online of a Soviet battalion CP in the field.
What I currently need help with are battalion command posts. From looking at the tables, it appears to me that a tank battalion has 2 x BTRs for a command post, and a motor rifle battalion has 3 x BTRs.
Can anyone confirm or deny this?
And if confirmed, does anyone know how the CP was set up? Were they specially modified BTRs? Did they park them next to each other and throw a tent extension up, like the US does with M577s? I haven’t been able to find any pics online of a Soviet battalion CP in the field.
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Cav Dog
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Re: Let's See Russian Armor
Great question - after digging through multiple resources, both old and new, it appears that Soviet Battalion HQs are divided into Forward, Main and Rear CPs. The forward CP is the battalion Commander in a command tank in tank battalions, an APC in motor rifle battalions, both usually also have a Gaz 69 or similar.
The Main CP consists of a command APC, with the chief of staff, operations officer, signal officer, political officer and NBC officer. Some units may have a second APC or BRDM as well.
The Rear CP has an APC with the technical deputy commander which is normally co-located with the supply and maintenance platoon.
This is from David Isby's "Weapons and Tactics of the Soviet Army." It is a little dated from 1981 but I doubt the command structure at battalion level has changed that significantly.
For a more modern org chart, check out this link to the Russian Battalion Tactical Group and scroll down:
https://www.thefivecoatconsultinggroup. ... ontext-d60
The Main CP consists of a command APC, with the chief of staff, operations officer, signal officer, political officer and NBC officer. Some units may have a second APC or BRDM as well.
The Rear CP has an APC with the technical deputy commander which is normally co-located with the supply and maintenance platoon.
This is from David Isby's "Weapons and Tactics of the Soviet Army." It is a little dated from 1981 but I doubt the command structure at battalion level has changed that significantly.
For a more modern org chart, check out this link to the Russian Battalion Tactical Group and scroll down:
https://www.thefivecoatconsultinggroup. ... ontext-d60
Tactics are the opinion of the senior officer present.
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redleg
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That's awesome, Cav Dog! Thank you for the info and the reference on BTGs! That's exactly what I needed!
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"I've already got one."

Missing medics and had to make a few vehicle substitutions but almost there...

Missing medics and had to make a few vehicle substitutions but almost there...
Tactics are the opinion of the senior officer present.
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Re: Let's See Russian Armor
But wait, there's more:

Upper right quadrant AOE Div 86 J series Div Cav troop, before they decided to put the tanks back in.
Lower right quadrant below the M106 Mortars, the CFVs for the battalion scout platoon (3) and (7) for a Cav troop from an Armored Brigade Combat Team Cavalry Squadron. The hmmvs are still on the paint rack waiting for 3 tone camo.

Left 1/2 2 tank companies with HQ and support.

All of this can be organized into one of the combined arms battalions in the ABCT with 2 tank cos. and 2 mech cos.
Not meant to be a thread jack, call it the anti Russian armor post!

Upper right quadrant AOE Div 86 J series Div Cav troop, before they decided to put the tanks back in.
Lower right quadrant below the M106 Mortars, the CFVs for the battalion scout platoon (3) and (7) for a Cav troop from an Armored Brigade Combat Team Cavalry Squadron. The hmmvs are still on the paint rack waiting for 3 tone camo.

Left 1/2 2 tank companies with HQ and support.

All of this can be organized into one of the combined arms battalions in the ABCT with 2 tank cos. and 2 mech cos.
Not meant to be a thread jack, call it the anti Russian armor post!
Tactics are the opinion of the senior officer present.
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panzergator
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Re: Let's See Russian Armor
Oh YEAH! GREAT STUFF! Wonderful pics!
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Pogo was right. So was Ike.
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chrisswim
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Re: Let's See Russian Armor
CAV Dog, great anti-Russian armor.like it.
Love the birds-eye pics.
First TOS-1 Buratino with a reload vehicle.

Next Scud-B launchers with SA-22 Pantsirs spotted by recon drone.


Love the birds-eye pics.
First TOS-1 Buratino with a reload vehicle.

Next Scud-B launchers with SA-22 Pantsirs spotted by recon drone.


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Re: Let's See Russian Armor
Cav Dog,
Who among us hasn't, for a brief moment, high jacked a tread? Your M1s and Brad's, in NATO, camo look awesome. Makes me want to drag out my stuff and pose them... LOL. Great work.
Chris,
Nice pieces.
Who among us hasn't, for a brief moment, high jacked a tread? Your M1s and Brad's, in NATO, camo look awesome. Makes me want to drag out my stuff and pose them... LOL. Great work.
Chris,
Nice pieces.
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redleg
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Re: Let's See Russian Armor
Lookin good Chris!
CavDog - love your Russian and Americans! hey are both fantastic! What I'm really loving are the mortar carriers and M88s with the 50 cals! Beautiful!
CavDog - love your Russian and Americans! hey are both fantastic! What I'm really loving are the mortar carriers and M88s with the 50 cals! Beautiful!
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chrisswim
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Re: Let's See Russian Armor
Borrowed this picture 5-6 years ago. Let us know if it is of your Russian micro armor.


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panzergator
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Re: Let's See Russian Armor
They stole some M577s from somewhere. Get a Report of Survey going.
All blessings flow from a good mission statement.
Pogo was right. So was Ike.
"A Gentleman is a man who is only rude intentionally." (Churchill)
Give credit. Take responsibility.
Pogo was right. So was Ike.
"A Gentleman is a man who is only rude intentionally." (Churchill)
Give credit. Take responsibility.
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foxbat
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Re: Let's See Russian Armor
That TOS is truly a frightening thing... I saw vids of its "work", and to say it mildly, it's flipping brutal. Nice work on it and on your SCUDs too. 
