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Help!
I'm trying to purchase Alan Raven's four volume set of books on Royal Navy camo in WWII, but I can't find anyone in the USA selling them. Please let me know if you know of a place to purchase the following (or someone who is willing to sell theirs):
1. Warships Perspectives #4 Camouflage Volume I: The Royal Navy 1939 - 1941
2. Warships Perspectives #5 Camouflage Volume II: The Royal Navy 1942
3. Warships Perspectives #6 Camouflage Volume III: The Royal Navy 1943
4. Warships Perspectives #9 Camouflage Volume IV: The Royal Navy: Supplemental
Also interested in the following book by John Lambert:
5. Warships Perspectives #3 Flower Class Corvettes
Any info or links would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Chris
I'm trying to purchase Alan Raven's four volume set of books on Royal Navy camo in WWII, but I can't find anyone in the USA selling them. Please let me know if you know of a place to purchase the following (or someone who is willing to sell theirs):
1. Warships Perspectives #4 Camouflage Volume I: The Royal Navy 1939 - 1941
2. Warships Perspectives #5 Camouflage Volume II: The Royal Navy 1942
3. Warships Perspectives #6 Camouflage Volume III: The Royal Navy 1943
4. Warships Perspectives #9 Camouflage Volume IV: The Royal Navy: Supplemental
Also interested in the following book by John Lambert:
5. Warships Perspectives #3 Flower Class Corvettes
Any info or links would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Chris
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Chris,
Don't want to leave the link here but you should google "Snyder and Short" or "shipcamouflage". That's where I got mine.
Paul
Don't want to leave the link here but you should google "Snyder and Short" or "shipcamouflage". That's where I got mine.
Paul
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I think that your ships look fantastic!!!!! 

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Thanks for the encouragement and advice.
I found the following links that have been helpful:
http://www.shipcamouflage.com/measures.htm
http://www.de220.com/Camouflage/DE%20Ca ... tterns.htm
Also, I took on the "Big Mo" and Yamato:

I think I have more work on them to do though.
Have the King George and Bismarck coming along but the weathering on the George is giving me problems and the insignia on the front of the Bismarck is a real pain.
EDIT: I "fixed" the Kongo (Kirishima sister ship) to match more closely what Piotr Neuff did with his, I'll post a shot of that when I get the King George and Bismarck done.
Not having much luck finding camo schemes for the later Japanese ships, and the Yamato, for as famous as she is, really seems to have been camera shy - I can't find anything regarding camos for her.
I found the following links that have been helpful:
http://www.shipcamouflage.com/measures.htm
http://www.de220.com/Camouflage/DE%20Ca ... tterns.htm
Also, I took on the "Big Mo" and Yamato:

I think I have more work on them to do though.
Have the King George and Bismarck coming along but the weathering on the George is giving me problems and the insignia on the front of the Bismarck is a real pain.
EDIT: I "fixed" the Kongo (Kirishima sister ship) to match more closely what Piotr Neuff did with his, I'll post a shot of that when I get the King George and Bismarck done.
Not having much luck finding camo schemes for the later Japanese ships, and the Yamato, for as famous as she is, really seems to have been camera shy - I can't find anything regarding camos for her.
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Hillslam,
Here is an interesting link I found a long time ago that has some gret info on Japanese Naval Camoflauge (under Section X-32 in the Table of Contents):
http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/primary_ ... MJ_toc.htm
or you can try this one too:
http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/primary_ ... 20X-32.pdf
The second link is to a PDF file of the naval camo info for the Japanese from the first link I posted here.
All of the information in these two links is from a US Naval Operational Archives document conducted from 1945 through 1946.
I hope this is helpful. By the way, great job painting the ships you posted!
Cheers!
Here is an interesting link I found a long time ago that has some gret info on Japanese Naval Camoflauge (under Section X-32 in the Table of Contents):
http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/primary_ ... MJ_toc.htm
or you can try this one too:
http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/primary_ ... 20X-32.pdf
The second link is to a PDF file of the naval camo info for the Japanese from the first link I posted here.
All of the information in these two links is from a US Naval Operational Archives document conducted from 1945 through 1946.
I hope this is helpful. By the way, great job painting the ships you posted!

Cheers!
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Thanks for the website - I'll need to update my japanese ships with that info.
Here's some more completed ships:
The US BBs in a row - new here is the BB Washington (sporting camo, psuedo 33) second from the bottom.
Top to bottom: Missouri, South Dakota, Washington, Texas

Next is my first carrier, the Yorktown (CV10 not CV5) - next to BB Missouri for scale. I need to retouch the camo and the plane cockpits I know, and the Dauntlesses on the rear deck are too bright, but here she is:

Next, bane of the British, Prinz Eugen and the infamous Bismarck:

Bismarck alone:

Two ships that met the Bismarck with very different results - the Hood and King George V. The Hood met Bismarck and was sunk, King George V met Bismarck and sunk her.

Its interesting to me the length difference of a battlecruiser and a true battleship. I've always liked the "pitbull" no nonsense style of the british battleships...
Next, is a ship whose lines I really like, the french BB Richelieu

This is after her refit at New York
And last - my current favorite, the Italian Vittorio Veneto. I really need to revisit the camo scheme here, and will probably just all out copy 1ComOpsCtr's excellent scheme so this fine ship looks "Right"
Having typed all that and now having gone thru about a dozen ships I can say unequivocally that I really detest the Tamiya acryllics. If you're going to paint an old barn, you might want to use them, but for fine model work, they are attrocious. They either gum up or bleed, they don't hold their color, they don't mix well, heaven forbid you pass over them with a second brush stroke or they'll completely "trough" on you, they have poor consistency... there is nothing good about those paints. At all. I recommend Testor's enamels. Yes you need thinner to work with them but they are head and shoulders above the Tamiya sludge. I also recommend Model Masters enamels.
Ok thats my 2 cents.
I still welcome any and all suggestions, especially on camo - which I stink at so far.
Here's some more completed ships:
The US BBs in a row - new here is the BB Washington (sporting camo, psuedo 33) second from the bottom.
Top to bottom: Missouri, South Dakota, Washington, Texas

Next is my first carrier, the Yorktown (CV10 not CV5) - next to BB Missouri for scale. I need to retouch the camo and the plane cockpits I know, and the Dauntlesses on the rear deck are too bright, but here she is:

Next, bane of the British, Prinz Eugen and the infamous Bismarck:

Bismarck alone:

Two ships that met the Bismarck with very different results - the Hood and King George V. The Hood met Bismarck and was sunk, King George V met Bismarck and sunk her.

Its interesting to me the length difference of a battlecruiser and a true battleship. I've always liked the "pitbull" no nonsense style of the british battleships...
Next, is a ship whose lines I really like, the french BB Richelieu

This is after her refit at New York
And last - my current favorite, the Italian Vittorio Veneto. I really need to revisit the camo scheme here, and will probably just all out copy 1ComOpsCtr's excellent scheme so this fine ship looks "Right"

Having typed all that and now having gone thru about a dozen ships I can say unequivocally that I really detest the Tamiya acryllics. If you're going to paint an old barn, you might want to use them, but for fine model work, they are attrocious. They either gum up or bleed, they don't hold their color, they don't mix well, heaven forbid you pass over them with a second brush stroke or they'll completely "trough" on you, they have poor consistency... there is nothing good about those paints. At all. I recommend Testor's enamels. Yes you need thinner to work with them but they are head and shoulders above the Tamiya sludge. I also recommend Model Masters enamels.
Ok thats my 2 cents.
I still welcome any and all suggestions, especially on camo - which I stink at so far.
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Hillslam - I concur with all the praise for your modelling skills.
The Yamato class was extremely 'camera shy'. The Japanese Navy prohibited any photography of the Yamato class ships. I read a book on the sinking of the Shinano; the U.S. sub that sank her wasn't credited with the sinking until after the war. At the time, the USN was convinced there was no such ship.
Groundlber
The Yamato class was extremely 'camera shy'. The Japanese Navy prohibited any photography of the Yamato class ships. I read a book on the sinking of the Shinano; the U.S. sub that sank her wasn't credited with the sinking until after the war. At the time, the USN was convinced there was no such ship.
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During air operations the pole was in the positions like in this picture
Piotr N.
http://www.combinedfleet.com/ryujo_c.htm
Piotr N.
http://www.combinedfleet.com/ryujo_c.htm
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