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Thanks for giving me the opportunity to be a "Wargamer" again. I had a good time in spite of my late arrival. CinC House actually might let me go again next month!
Pete,
I've got the stuff, I'll try to scan it to .pdf and send it tomorrow.
Paul
Pete,
I've got the stuff, I'll try to scan it to .pdf and send it tomorrow.
Paul
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― George Orwell, 1984
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
- George Orwell
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ferret701
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ferret701
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OK -- here is the battle writeup, done from memory. Any idea why my maps won't show?
Czechs v French
A good game overall, with some of the highest casualty rates our group has seen so far.
General Scenario: September 2, 1988. East of Munich. Munich has been under siege for almost three weeks. As NATO forces marshal a relief effort, a Cat C Czech division freshly arrived at the front after length refresher training (and political indoctrination!) launches a spoiling attack West of Munich. Lead elements, including the Tank Regiment, make good progress against little resistance. However, a counterattack by French Forces has sidestepped the forward Czech units, and is threatening to cut off the Czech division and savage its rear areas.
Rules were Fistful of TOWs 2, a platoon-scale set of fast play modern rules.
OOBs
Czech:
Army Anti-Tank Brigade
9 batteries of T-12 100mm AT guns with OT-62 transports
2 BRDM/AT-4 AT vehicles
Army Artillery Brigade
2 battalions (3 batteries each) of 122mm howitzers
2 battalions (3 batteries each) of 152mm howitzers
Motor Rifle Regiment
3 Battalions, each with 6 OT-64s, 5 inf platoons, 1 weapons platoon
1 Battalion with 9 T-55s
1 Artillery battalion with 3 122mm towed howitzers
Various engineering, recon, AA, and AT assets
A second, identical, Motor Rifle Regiment was available as reinforcements later in the game.
French Forces
Regiment, Legion Etrangere
(Foreign Legion Motorized Regiment acting as recon element for French forces)
1 Recon company in VBL armored jeeps
1 AT company (Milans on VBL armored Jeeps)
3 Rifle companies in light trucks
2 batteries of towed 105mm guns
Various mortars and towed AA guns
2 Mechanized Regiments, each:
3 companies of infantry in AMX-10Ps
1 company of 3 AMX-30s
1 towed 120mm mortar battery
Various ATGM and towed AA units
1 Motorized Regiment
3 companies of infantry in VABs
1 towed 120mm mortar battery
Various ATGM and towed AA units
Three players (including Paul) controlled the French forces. Two players (including me) controlled the Czech forces.
All Czech units were green. The Legionnaires were elite, the rest of the French forces, Regulars.
Situation At Start of Game
Please note: North is the bottom of the map, West is the right side.
The French forces entered from the west, led by the Legionnaires along the river road and the first Mech Regiment through the fields. Luckily for the Czechs, a recon unit in the town at the first road junction alerted the rest of the force to the French presence. The recon elements of both forces exchanged fire, with the Czechs being eliminated and the French losing several recon jeeps and an infantry platoon.
The Czechs were quick to respond. The tank battalion began moving to reinforce the AT guns holding the western bridge, while the two southern infantry battalions mounted up and prepared to move out.
The Legionnaires then jumped the first river bridge, attempting to take it by a coup de main. The initial attempt failed, as the guns in the woods on either side of the road shot up several recon jeeps and infantry platoons. However, a second wave of infantry raced across the bridge, mounted up in trucks, and dismounted in close combat with the AT guns. The elite infantry made very, very short work of the green Czech gun crews. Over the next several turns, the rest of the Legionnaires crossed the bridge and fanned out east and west along the north side of the river, mopping up the remainder of two of the AT battalions, breaking the brigade and causing it to rout. Sporadic Czech artillery fire caused scattered Legionnaire casualties, but the elite troops proved difficult to break.
Behind the Legionnaires came the 2nd French Mech Regiment, which crossed the now-secured bridge and took up positions along the northern treeline. However, the brief stand of the AT brigade had bought the Czechs just enough time to rush a T-55 battalion to woods north of the bridge. Backed by several platoons of self-propelled ATGMs (and liberal doses of artillery fire), they managed to dispatch the mech regiment’s company of AMX-30s and several platoons of VBLs with Milans, but lost a company of tanks in the process. With the rest of the French regiment taking up defensive positions inside the woods, the rapid intervention of the armor had stopped the French forces from breaking out into the vulnerable artillery and headquarters areas.
Situation Mid-Way Through Game
At this point, the Czechs caught a lucky break (well, luck for those fighting around the western-most bridge, at least) – the 2nd Motor Rifle Regiment arrived on the western edge of the map, north of the river, and sprinted towards the bridge. With reinforcements on the way, the tank battalion from the 1st regiment de-camped and headed backed towards its infantry. The Legionnaires, under cover of the woods, remounted their trucks and began to work their way west along the north shore of the river towards the rail line.
Meanwhile, south of the river, the 1st French Mech Regiment continued to advance through the fields to close with pair of Czech battalions defending the town, while the VAB regiment entered along the major east-west road several turns later. The Czechs, now fully awake, deployed in a hull-down position behind the elevated rail line. With neither side having large numbers of long-range weaponry, combat was limited to artillery and ATGM exchanges, which knocked out perhaps 3 platoons of various sorts on each side.
As it became clear that the 1st French Mech Regiment was threatening to flank the defenders along the rail line, the Czech forces withdrew back into the town, and deployed with one battalion facing south and the other west. Over the next several turns, the French troops carved their way through the Czechs. The difference in quality was telling – the green Czechs just couldn’t stand up against the regular French troops. North of the river, the Legionnaires closed with the battalion there, and ground their way through them. At the end of the battle, the majority of both towns were in French hands, with only the T-55 battalion still in intact. [Paul can probably give a better account of this, as he commanded many of the French].
North of the river, the newly-arrived Czech Motor Rifle Regiment deployed on an east-west axis facing the woods full of Frenchmen. However, as the French AMX-10Ps had melted back into the woods, and the infantry weren’t spotted, there was little they could from a distance. It had to be a close assault …
Czechs move in for the assault
The Czechs opened the assault by deploying their infantry battalions in a line, east to west, anchored on the eastern end on the north-south road. The T-55 tank battalion deployed on an east-line in the woods. The recon elements were in van, escorted by the regiment’s ZSU-23-4 platoon and its engineer team, heading south down the road. After all troops were in place, and the 5 supporting artillery battalions were standing by their guns, the OT-64s raced forward to discharge their passengers along the tree line.
The French infantry and Milan teams opened fire as the Czechs closed and discharged. A trio of Milan sections knocked out the ZSUs, one of the Recon platoons, and a platoon of infantry in their carriers coming down the road. Fire from the French infantry took a further tool from the Czech infantry, wiping out 6 platoons, plus another recon unit. With the French infantry now spotted, the Czech artillery weighed in – 5 battalions of howitzers, backed by 3 batteries of 120mm mortars put down a line of fire across the French infantry. Return fire from the remaining Czech infantry and the overwatching T-55s chewed up even more. A good half of the French infantry were eliminated. They were quickly reinforced, however, as the AMX-10Ps pulled up, taking a murderous toll from the Czechs. Vehicles burned across the Czech lines and infantry platoons disintegrated under the heavy autocannon fire. The Czechs hit back, flaming a half-dozen AMX-10Ps with tank and ATGM fire.
The battle degenerated into a slug-fest, with the more numerous Czechs slowly wearing down the better quality French. A second 5-battalion artillery salvo from the Czechs flopped, with three of the battalions failing to fire, and several batteries falling to counter-battery fire. By the time the time limit ended the game, casualties and routing left the French regiment with 2 rifle platoons, an AMX-10P platoon, and a 120mm mortar battery. Backing them up were a pair of VAB/HOT SP ATGM platoons and a couple of batteries of 20mm AA guns. In addition, a company of Legionnaires was rapidly rushed back to cover the bridge.
With French control of both road bridges, and massive Czech casualties, the battle was a fairly decisive French win, despite the slaughter of the 1st Mech Regiment.
Czechs v French
A good game overall, with some of the highest casualty rates our group has seen so far.
General Scenario: September 2, 1988. East of Munich. Munich has been under siege for almost three weeks. As NATO forces marshal a relief effort, a Cat C Czech division freshly arrived at the front after length refresher training (and political indoctrination!) launches a spoiling attack West of Munich. Lead elements, including the Tank Regiment, make good progress against little resistance. However, a counterattack by French Forces has sidestepped the forward Czech units, and is threatening to cut off the Czech division and savage its rear areas.
Rules were Fistful of TOWs 2, a platoon-scale set of fast play modern rules.
OOBs
Czech:
Army Anti-Tank Brigade
9 batteries of T-12 100mm AT guns with OT-62 transports
2 BRDM/AT-4 AT vehicles
Army Artillery Brigade
2 battalions (3 batteries each) of 122mm howitzers
2 battalions (3 batteries each) of 152mm howitzers
Motor Rifle Regiment
3 Battalions, each with 6 OT-64s, 5 inf platoons, 1 weapons platoon
1 Battalion with 9 T-55s
1 Artillery battalion with 3 122mm towed howitzers
Various engineering, recon, AA, and AT assets
A second, identical, Motor Rifle Regiment was available as reinforcements later in the game.
French Forces
Regiment, Legion Etrangere
(Foreign Legion Motorized Regiment acting as recon element for French forces)
1 Recon company in VBL armored jeeps
1 AT company (Milans on VBL armored Jeeps)
3 Rifle companies in light trucks
2 batteries of towed 105mm guns
Various mortars and towed AA guns
2 Mechanized Regiments, each:
3 companies of infantry in AMX-10Ps
1 company of 3 AMX-30s
1 towed 120mm mortar battery
Various ATGM and towed AA units
1 Motorized Regiment
3 companies of infantry in VABs
1 towed 120mm mortar battery
Various ATGM and towed AA units
Three players (including Paul) controlled the French forces. Two players (including me) controlled the Czech forces.
All Czech units were green. The Legionnaires were elite, the rest of the French forces, Regulars.
Situation At Start of Game
Please note: North is the bottom of the map, West is the right side.
The French forces entered from the west, led by the Legionnaires along the river road and the first Mech Regiment through the fields. Luckily for the Czechs, a recon unit in the town at the first road junction alerted the rest of the force to the French presence. The recon elements of both forces exchanged fire, with the Czechs being eliminated and the French losing several recon jeeps and an infantry platoon.
The Czechs were quick to respond. The tank battalion began moving to reinforce the AT guns holding the western bridge, while the two southern infantry battalions mounted up and prepared to move out.
The Legionnaires then jumped the first river bridge, attempting to take it by a coup de main. The initial attempt failed, as the guns in the woods on either side of the road shot up several recon jeeps and infantry platoons. However, a second wave of infantry raced across the bridge, mounted up in trucks, and dismounted in close combat with the AT guns. The elite infantry made very, very short work of the green Czech gun crews. Over the next several turns, the rest of the Legionnaires crossed the bridge and fanned out east and west along the north side of the river, mopping up the remainder of two of the AT battalions, breaking the brigade and causing it to rout. Sporadic Czech artillery fire caused scattered Legionnaire casualties, but the elite troops proved difficult to break.
Behind the Legionnaires came the 2nd French Mech Regiment, which crossed the now-secured bridge and took up positions along the northern treeline. However, the brief stand of the AT brigade had bought the Czechs just enough time to rush a T-55 battalion to woods north of the bridge. Backed by several platoons of self-propelled ATGMs (and liberal doses of artillery fire), they managed to dispatch the mech regiment’s company of AMX-30s and several platoons of VBLs with Milans, but lost a company of tanks in the process. With the rest of the French regiment taking up defensive positions inside the woods, the rapid intervention of the armor had stopped the French forces from breaking out into the vulnerable artillery and headquarters areas.
Situation Mid-Way Through Game
At this point, the Czechs caught a lucky break (well, luck for those fighting around the western-most bridge, at least) – the 2nd Motor Rifle Regiment arrived on the western edge of the map, north of the river, and sprinted towards the bridge. With reinforcements on the way, the tank battalion from the 1st regiment de-camped and headed backed towards its infantry. The Legionnaires, under cover of the woods, remounted their trucks and began to work their way west along the north shore of the river towards the rail line.
Meanwhile, south of the river, the 1st French Mech Regiment continued to advance through the fields to close with pair of Czech battalions defending the town, while the VAB regiment entered along the major east-west road several turns later. The Czechs, now fully awake, deployed in a hull-down position behind the elevated rail line. With neither side having large numbers of long-range weaponry, combat was limited to artillery and ATGM exchanges, which knocked out perhaps 3 platoons of various sorts on each side.
As it became clear that the 1st French Mech Regiment was threatening to flank the defenders along the rail line, the Czech forces withdrew back into the town, and deployed with one battalion facing south and the other west. Over the next several turns, the French troops carved their way through the Czechs. The difference in quality was telling – the green Czechs just couldn’t stand up against the regular French troops. North of the river, the Legionnaires closed with the battalion there, and ground their way through them. At the end of the battle, the majority of both towns were in French hands, with only the T-55 battalion still in intact. [Paul can probably give a better account of this, as he commanded many of the French].
North of the river, the newly-arrived Czech Motor Rifle Regiment deployed on an east-west axis facing the woods full of Frenchmen. However, as the French AMX-10Ps had melted back into the woods, and the infantry weren’t spotted, there was little they could from a distance. It had to be a close assault …
Czechs move in for the assault
The Czechs opened the assault by deploying their infantry battalions in a line, east to west, anchored on the eastern end on the north-south road. The T-55 tank battalion deployed on an east-line in the woods. The recon elements were in van, escorted by the regiment’s ZSU-23-4 platoon and its engineer team, heading south down the road. After all troops were in place, and the 5 supporting artillery battalions were standing by their guns, the OT-64s raced forward to discharge their passengers along the tree line.
The French infantry and Milan teams opened fire as the Czechs closed and discharged. A trio of Milan sections knocked out the ZSUs, one of the Recon platoons, and a platoon of infantry in their carriers coming down the road. Fire from the French infantry took a further tool from the Czech infantry, wiping out 6 platoons, plus another recon unit. With the French infantry now spotted, the Czech artillery weighed in – 5 battalions of howitzers, backed by 3 batteries of 120mm mortars put down a line of fire across the French infantry. Return fire from the remaining Czech infantry and the overwatching T-55s chewed up even more. A good half of the French infantry were eliminated. They were quickly reinforced, however, as the AMX-10Ps pulled up, taking a murderous toll from the Czechs. Vehicles burned across the Czech lines and infantry platoons disintegrated under the heavy autocannon fire. The Czechs hit back, flaming a half-dozen AMX-10Ps with tank and ATGM fire.
The battle degenerated into a slug-fest, with the more numerous Czechs slowly wearing down the better quality French. A second 5-battalion artillery salvo from the Czechs flopped, with three of the battalions failing to fire, and several batteries falling to counter-battery fire. By the time the time limit ended the game, casualties and routing left the French regiment with 2 rifle platoons, an AMX-10P platoon, and a 120mm mortar battery. Backing them up were a pair of VAB/HOT SP ATGM platoons and a couple of batteries of 20mm AA guns. In addition, a company of Legionnaires was rapidly rushed back to cover the bridge.
With French control of both road bridges, and massive Czech casualties, the battle was a fairly decisive French win, despite the slaughter of the 1st Mech Regiment.