Interested in finding out how those of you who use the 1/2400th scale aircraft use them for war gaming. I just started looking at the issue today and have a supply of small 1/2" x 1/2" metal bases. I figure I can mount three single engine fighters or torpedo bombers on each by securing them above the base with a short height of metal wire. Then use a 1/2" x 1/8" (maybe 1/4") or so label on the back of the base with national ID symbol and type of aircraft listed. For recce I was thinking of one plane per base as they typically flew solo. For the larger bombers I'm not sure yet and I don't own any right now to play around with.
Would love to hear what the rest of you have been or plan on doing with these?
Thanks,
Chris
Basing 1/2400th Aircraft
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Re: Basing 1/2400th Aircraft
Chris,cbovill wrote:Interested in finding out how those of you who use the 1/2400th scale aircraft use them for war gaming. I just started looking at the issue today and have a supply of small 1/2" x 1/2" metal bases. I figure I can mount three single engine fighters or torpedo bombers on each by securing them above the base with a short height of metal wire. Then use a 1/2" x 1/8" (maybe 1/4") or so label on the back of the base with national ID symbol and type of aircraft listed. For recce I was thinking of one plane per base as they typically flew solo. For the larger bombers I'm not sure yet and I don't own any right now to play around with.
Would love to hear what the rest of you have been or plan on doing with these?
Thanks,
Chris
follow this link. This guy has some good ideas about using clear plastic for basing. I've done some with my 1/700 scale aircraft. They turned out great
...OOPs the link was direct to a GHQ competetor. If you pm me I'll send it to you.
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Thought of a idea to try basing all 1/2400 scale airplanes. I bought a couple of wire paint scrapers from a local hardware store average price is $5.00. Now if you take some wire cutters you know have thousands of very sturdy straight thin posts for basing of aircraft. Just either drill a small whole in the bottom of the plane or you most likely could get away with using just glue(super) to fasten the wire to the model. As for basing itself i was thinking of using flat metal 1" by 1" stands and that way you could do either one plane or several on one stand. Just a thought i was going to try some time in the future. The reason i bought the wire brush is I use the wire for aerial antennas for my 1/72 scale projects. Hope this helps some what.
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Thought of a idea to try basing all 1/2400 scale airplanes. I bought a couple of wire paint scrapers from a local hardware store average price is $5.00. Now if you take some wire cutters you know have thousands of very sturdy straight thin posts for basing of aircraft. Just either drill a small whole in the bottom of the plane or you most likely could get away with using just glue(super) to fasten the wire to the model. As for basing itself i was thinking of using flat metal 1" by 1" stands and that way you could do either one plane or several on one stand. Just a thought i was going to try some time in the future. The reason i bought the wire brush is I use the wire for aerial antennas for my 1/72 scale projects. Hope this helps some what.
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I used to do that years ago, until everybody started to stab themselves when reaching over to move units... OUch!fullmetaljacket wrote:Chris
...you know have thousands of very sturdy straight thin posts for basing of aircraft...Just a thought i was going to try some time in the future. The reason i bought the wire brush is I use the wire for aerial antennas for my 1/72 scale projects. Hope this helps some what.
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I have an air group that a friend of mine did. He went to a craft store like Michael's or Hobby Lobby and bought some clear tube beads. They come in 3 lengths he took the tallest and used them for his fighters mounting 4 to a stand. He then took the middle size and mounted his dive bombers 3 to a triangular stand. Lastly he took the short ones and mounted the torpedo bombers 3 to a triangular stand.
With the extra planes he mounted singles and pairs so that as you took casualties you could "count them down without having to keep notes.
He reproduced the Lexiington 1941 air group looks awsome heading out to target.
With the extra planes he mounted singles and pairs so that as you took casualties you could "count them down without having to keep notes.
He reproduced the Lexiington 1941 air group looks awsome heading out to target.
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I find the 1/2400 aircraft way too "fiddly" to really do any gaming with. For this reason I use the 1/700 scale aircraft made for 1/700 scale ship models. They are much easier to handle, detail is exceptional,and the price is very reasonable.
Following are some ways that I mount my aircraft for gaming. The most recent idea was from a guy on the Old Dominion site (I'm still experimenting with ways to make the stands,so don't mind the tape on some of the pictured ones)He uses plastic in different configurations to "place" his 1/1200 scale aircraft on (I find these also too fiddly). I like his idea of the plastic (recycled GHQ packaging-very economical too!) because besides placing 1 to several on the stands, pertinent info may be placed on the base such as status of aircraft, how many, weapons types etc. I use a product called Zwipes (the pens). They are fine point and only erase (I might add very easily) when the solution on the eraser is used.
My aircraft (1/700) all use the small magnets glued to the bottom. They attach straight to the steel post stands , and with another magnet attach to the plastic. Either way they all attach and detach easily.
I know some of you probably don't and won't use the 700's but maybe you can generate your own ideas form what I show you.
BTW I do show 2 GHQ 1/2400 aircraft. They have 4# fish line glued to a hole in the bottom. This "post" may then be attached to your desired base...
Following are some ways that I mount my aircraft for gaming. The most recent idea was from a guy on the Old Dominion site (I'm still experimenting with ways to make the stands,so don't mind the tape on some of the pictured ones)He uses plastic in different configurations to "place" his 1/1200 scale aircraft on (I find these also too fiddly). I like his idea of the plastic (recycled GHQ packaging-very economical too!) because besides placing 1 to several on the stands, pertinent info may be placed on the base such as status of aircraft, how many, weapons types etc. I use a product called Zwipes (the pens). They are fine point and only erase (I might add very easily) when the solution on the eraser is used.
My aircraft (1/700) all use the small magnets glued to the bottom. They attach straight to the steel post stands , and with another magnet attach to the plastic. Either way they all attach and detach easily.
I know some of you probably don't and won't use the 700's but maybe you can generate your own ideas form what I show you.
BTW I do show 2 GHQ 1/2400 aircraft. They have 4# fish line glued to a hole in the bottom. This "post" may then be attached to your desired base...
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Wow! Definitely some creative solutions here. I like the ability to adjust height that JB is demonstrating and the clear plastic approach really allows one to concentrate on the aircraft themselves. Right now I'm experimenting with making smaller versions of my ship bases to see what that will look like.
Thank you for all the ideas - keep 'em coming!
Chris
Thank you for all the ideas - keep 'em coming!
Chris
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Here is a step by step description of how we based the 1/2400 a/c used to playtest “Micronauts: The Game- WWIIâ€.
Start with a sheet of thin styrene sheet (about .030â€). Scribe a 1†or ¾†grid on the sheet with a sharp X-acto knife. Test one of the scribe lines to make sure it is deep enough to allow the sheet to easily snap when bent.
Use a pin vise or a Dremel tool (on low speed, but still much faster) to drill one or two holes in each square on the grid pattern. One centered hole for medium bombers and larger; two closely spaced for single-engine aircraft. Test fit the aircraft to the first pair of holes drilled to make sure two aircraft will fit. Lightly penciling diagonal lines on the grid can help to exactly locate the center of each base.
Don't snap the styrene into individual bases just yet. It is much easier to install the wire first.
Fit thin brass wire (.010†or .020â€) into the holes in the styrene (match the drill bit to the size of the wire) and secure with Crazy Glue. The thick, tube glue works well. It is easy to start with a long length of wire and insert into a hole, Iwo Jima style. Hold the wire firmly (a pair of needle nose can help) and cut back to a length of about ¼ to ½ " with a pair of wire cutters. Set aside for the glue to dry
Now is a good time to work on the aircraft (or the carrier). See below.
After the glue dries, snap the styrene into individual bases. If the scribing is deep enough, a little coaxing with a pair of needle nose pliers will quickly transform the “wire forest†into an air wing’s worth of bases. Best to test one first, to make sure the scribing is deep enough to allow the styrene to snap easily. (I’m sure everyone can guess exactly how I learned this part).
Spray paint the individual bases “ocean colorâ€. Most any shade of medium blue will work. When the blue dries, stippling some “waves†onto the base helps improve the appearance.
That finishes off the bases.
While waiting for the paint and / or glue to dry on the bases, you can paint the aircraft “airplane color†(blue, grey, green, silver, etc). A little silver or light blue can highlight the canopy and a black engine cowling and anti-glare panel in front of the cockpit adds some detail. A crazy painter like Jim Moffet will also paint tail markings, anti-icing boots on the leading edge of the wings and national markings in all six locations, as appropriate. Have as much fun as you like.
After painting, perform the first half of a barrel roll and place the squadron upside down on some foam. Use a push-pin to poke a hole in the underside of each aircraft right at the center of gravity of the model (usually at the center of the bomb bay or where the centerline fuel tank or center bomb or torpedo attaches). The hole should be big enough to fit just a bit of the wire.
Take the Crazy Glue (use the thickest version, from the small tube) and place a small blob on top of the base wires with a toothpick. Grab an aircraft by the wing with a small pair of tweezers and carefully balance on top of the wire and glue. The glue’s tackiness and the hole in the bottom of the airplane (and some patience—holding your breath helps) will allow the airplane to stay put long enough for the glue to dry. Do a few bases at a time and repeat for the entire Air Wing.
That’s it! Now go “Scratch one flattopâ€. Good luck!
John Drye
Start with a sheet of thin styrene sheet (about .030â€). Scribe a 1†or ¾†grid on the sheet with a sharp X-acto knife. Test one of the scribe lines to make sure it is deep enough to allow the sheet to easily snap when bent.
Use a pin vise or a Dremel tool (on low speed, but still much faster) to drill one or two holes in each square on the grid pattern. One centered hole for medium bombers and larger; two closely spaced for single-engine aircraft. Test fit the aircraft to the first pair of holes drilled to make sure two aircraft will fit. Lightly penciling diagonal lines on the grid can help to exactly locate the center of each base.
Don't snap the styrene into individual bases just yet. It is much easier to install the wire first.
Fit thin brass wire (.010†or .020â€) into the holes in the styrene (match the drill bit to the size of the wire) and secure with Crazy Glue. The thick, tube glue works well. It is easy to start with a long length of wire and insert into a hole, Iwo Jima style. Hold the wire firmly (a pair of needle nose can help) and cut back to a length of about ¼ to ½ " with a pair of wire cutters. Set aside for the glue to dry
Now is a good time to work on the aircraft (or the carrier). See below.
After the glue dries, snap the styrene into individual bases. If the scribing is deep enough, a little coaxing with a pair of needle nose pliers will quickly transform the “wire forest†into an air wing’s worth of bases. Best to test one first, to make sure the scribing is deep enough to allow the styrene to snap easily. (I’m sure everyone can guess exactly how I learned this part).
Spray paint the individual bases “ocean colorâ€. Most any shade of medium blue will work. When the blue dries, stippling some “waves†onto the base helps improve the appearance.
That finishes off the bases.
While waiting for the paint and / or glue to dry on the bases, you can paint the aircraft “airplane color†(blue, grey, green, silver, etc). A little silver or light blue can highlight the canopy and a black engine cowling and anti-glare panel in front of the cockpit adds some detail. A crazy painter like Jim Moffet will also paint tail markings, anti-icing boots on the leading edge of the wings and national markings in all six locations, as appropriate. Have as much fun as you like.
After painting, perform the first half of a barrel roll and place the squadron upside down on some foam. Use a push-pin to poke a hole in the underside of each aircraft right at the center of gravity of the model (usually at the center of the bomb bay or where the centerline fuel tank or center bomb or torpedo attaches). The hole should be big enough to fit just a bit of the wire.
Take the Crazy Glue (use the thickest version, from the small tube) and place a small blob on top of the base wires with a toothpick. Grab an aircraft by the wing with a small pair of tweezers and carefully balance on top of the wire and glue. The glue’s tackiness and the hole in the bottom of the airplane (and some patience—holding your breath helps) will allow the airplane to stay put long enough for the glue to dry. Do a few bases at a time and repeat for the entire Air Wing.
That’s it! Now go “Scratch one flattopâ€. Good luck!
John Drye