Quick fix Ferrets & EE-9s

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JasonAfrika
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Quick fix Ferrets & EE-9s

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A quick fix to the absence of Ferret armoured cars and EE-9 Cascavels is the following : Buy 1 pack of M-8 Greyhounds and 1 pack of AML-90s., and one sprue of BTR-70 turrets. Use the 90mm AML turret on the greyhound bodies and you have a passable EE-9 for wargame purposes. Use the BTR turrets on the AML bodies and again you get passable Ferret armoured cars. The 1/300 scale companies make these models but I think a scratch built GHQ model beats a low quality hunk of lead anyday. Hope some of you find this helpful and hoping this will get others to share their "recipes" for vehicles. I also built a Caesar SP 155mm How(the French truck mounted gun) using other companies parts. It actually looks like the real thing but again it can't compare to GHQ quality.

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You had created the ee-9, I use the others guys M-8 greyhound and GHQ AML-90 turret, I think it works better. Also, use M-20 greyhound and put in a tow launcher you get from the other guys. I have also put the GHQ AML-90 turret on a GHQ Stuart tank hull to create the X1 or X1A.

If you pick up some ee-11, can also mount AML-90 turrets for some of them. I also use GHQ AML-90 turrets on some one else's Ratel for the Ratel 90. Can also use the AML-60 turret on the Ratels (ratel 60). I have used the turret 20 from the ratel 20, and put it on the AML hull for the Eland 20.

The AML 90 turret provides flexibility, use it on a V-150 hull or the Cadillac Gage Commando (VN-8). Put the same turret on someone else's 6x6 from Canada. Then have some armoured car for south & central america, africa, etc. Put a M-163 vulcan on the v-150 or the Cadillac Gage Commando.

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Post by JasonAfrika »

Hey Chris that's a great idea for the X-1, I'm gonna do that. I do the same as you with the Cadillac Gage. The AML-90 turret is really useful. I have also used the Sheridan hull coupled with the Warrior turret to make IFV like the ASCOD, Dardo, and Japanese IFV. Again it's not perfect but close enough. I make side skirts out of the extra brass from GHQ helos. Thanks again for the X-1 idea, gonna uild a Brazilian army now.

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Possibly use the Fox hull for something, I have used that for my EE-3, and have put on different machine gun turrets, etc.

For the APC's:
ASCOD, I do not have a good idea here yet. Thought about using the other guys M2 Bradley hull with a different turret, maybe file down the front trim vane.

Japan's
Ty90 tank, use In-ser..... leopard 2 defender or lepd2 imp defenders
Ty 89 apc, the other guys roland hull with ghq scimitar turret.
recon, use the toyota pick ups
Typ 87 recon & patrol, use other guys France VBC with LAV 25 turret from other guys
AA, use Sheridan hull with Gerpard turret

Italy
Dardo IFV, use other guys marder hull with GHQ MCV 80 turret, put a little glue on top of gun to smooth out the depression.
Any idea on the tank destroyer?
On the tank, us a older m1a2, maybe find two different brands for turrets & hulls and swap from older figures

Let me pull out some other stuff for the CV90 series.

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CV90

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CV9030 is a GHQ Roland hull with GHQ MCV80 turret
CV9040 is GHQ Roland hull with GHQ Scorpin 90 turret, tip painted black. Have used a few in-ser---- hull with Scorpin 90 turret.

Italy 4x4 25 aa system,
M113 with the stem of M901 turret, use two guns from German Ostwind and add dish from gerpard or roland, use some putty for filler....
The OTO aa 76mm, leopard hull, Sgt York turret(file/cut some off) and then use a barrel from a M60 105 from the fume extractor to the end of barrel.

Any one have an idea for th Italian Tank Destroyer, C1.

VCC 1, use YPR 765 hull with other guys M113 machine gunner. I have also used the Canadian M113 C&R machine gun turret on the YPR from the other guys.

Jason, glad you like the idea. You can bring your brazilians down any time for my Chile, or Argentina forces.

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Post by JasonAfrika »

Chris, could you please tell me exactly what models and parts you used for the the EE-3 Jaraca? I never even thought of the Fox hull but it you are right, it's close enough.
Cama, I know it's certainly not perfect but it's as close as your gonna get with the existing GHQ parts, there probably is a better turret from one of the WWII vehicles. The UN Ferret in your pic is of course a turretless version, one of the English companies makes that model but I still think you are better off rigging one up with GHQ stuff, it certainly won't do for a diorama but for a wargame it's ok. Good Luck let me know if you have a better idea, Chrisswim certainly gave me some great ideas.

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I use the US M8 Grayhound for my modern Mexican Army units. Modified with a 20mm AC and different set of headlights. They still use M3 halftracks. Other vehicles that they use are French VBLs with Milan ATGW, AMX-VCI Tracked APC w/ 20mm AC or LMG, V-150s w/ 20mm AC and 90mm French CN, BTR-60s, HMMVs with assortment of weapons mount, and FAVs. They other assorted French vehicles I fail to remember. But, they do have Mi-24 Hinds and Mi-8 transports as well as Mi-26 Heavy lift helos.
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Mexico

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They use Panhard ERC with F1 turret (which is AML90 turret), call it the Lynx.
Probably have M60s/M48 now.

How about a senario of the Mexicians and the Texas National Guard fighting on the border?

Texas National Guard: w/ M60 (or M1A1), Bradley and/or M113, Hummv, Cobras, M109, MLRS.

Mexico: M60, M113, AMX-VCI, ERC 90 F1, M8 20mm, V-150, Hinds, Hips, Hooks, Hummvs, VBLs, BTR 60s.

Who should defend? Or is it a meeting engagement?

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M-60s are still unconfirmed for use with Mexican Army. Heavy armor does not seem to fit with military procurement at this time. France offering AMX-30s in line with most of already French equipped military. Mexican Army doctorine is mostly light cavalry setup.

As for a scenario with US and Mexico. Meeting engagement is good. I perfer a different approach. In lue of current use of Mexican Army involved with fighting against drug gangs within their major towns. A motorized scenario involving a US supporting Mexican Gov force against well armed drug cartel fighters would sound great. Cartels would employ mercs and insurgent type groups against Gov forces. Cartel uints would be equipped with light armored vehicles acquired from foreign arms dealers. We even have them employing Milan missiles and possible stolen US weapons systems. Although consider a limit to make scenario interesting.
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Chris,

RE: I have also put the GHQ AML-90 turret on a GHQ Stuart tank hull to create the X1 or X1A.

I hope you are using GHQ US-29 M-8 howitzer chassis. After reviewing all Stuat based chassis's. It is the closes to the hull configuration. Because it has a front armored window hatch on the glasis and only a viwing reticle in front of the turret ring. If you use a Stuart with a hatch on the hull itop n front of the turret ring. You may have chosen the incorrect chassis model. It is a trade off due to that the hull on the actual vehicle rear deck is flat. The M8 has a slight raised rear deck. Yet the representation is the closes. As for the turret. The AML90 GHQ has fits without any cutting. As for the turret for the 75mm howitzer. I pluged those on to the V-100 AC for my Mexican army fire support units. If you can find this book. Mexican and Central American Armor published by Darlington Press and authored by Julio Montes. It has some amazing photos and unit history info as well as oraganizations.
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x1/a1a

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Steel Arrows

I used m5 stuart hull, I like the idea of the M-8 howtizer hull. I did pick up a bunch of used stuarts on ebay.... made it a bit nicer to field two companies.

Interesting on the 75 turret on the v-100. Nice call. I'll look for the pics.
Chris

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Look at JEDS Military Page and look up V150 under DN series.
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Look at JEDS Military Page and look up V150 under DN series.
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Look at JEDS Military Page and look up V150 under DN series.
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Post by chrisswim »

Thank you for the suggestion and the web page, nice photos, and info.

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