Micro Skirmish Boards - Here are a few pictures

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zaevor2000
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Post by zaevor2000 »

Excellent question northman,

I found out very quickly what regular paints do to styrofoam as I watched two hexes slowly disintigrate right in front of my eyes... glad I tested on only 2 first.

Water based paints are a necessity with the styrofoam.

I used Black Primer and then sealed it with Dull Cote. I didn't like how toylike it looks just in white. With the rails and styrofoam base painted black it just looks more professional (I can't find the right words, it just looks better).

I recommend picking up at least 9 bottles of Mud (Polly Scale Model Railroad Paint -water base) for each Skirmish board set. I got about 8-10 hexes out of each bottle (your mileage may vary). I laid out newpaper on the floor and just started cranking them out assembly style.

After letting them dry I then literally painted the tops of the hexes with glue and flocked with the Burnt Grass.

To carve the rivers and contour lines for the hills I heated up an oven burner, heated up a butter knife and CAREFULLY carved at a shallow angle.

It is nice to have the base work done and now I look forward to superdetailing the hexes as others have done.

Mk1 thanks for the inspiration, just the thing to model some of my clear hexes on!

I am getting lots of ideas from the pics on the forums.

I hope you like the Tiger, Panther and Stuka pics as well.

I hope this finds you well!

Frank
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( I looked at some of my old pics from Germany and Knox to get the MERDC camo scheme right for my 70s US armor.

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Post by zaevor2000 »

I apologize for the primitiveness of my work. It was very intimidating posting pics that don't hold a candle to half the people in this forum from what I have seen.

Please forgive my feeble attempts, I did the best I could...

I have learned a lot from the pics on this forum and I look forward to improving my abilities. A good community on this forum. Thanks for the encouragement.

Frank

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Post by jb »

zaevor2000 wrote:I apologize for the primitiveness of my work. It was very intimidating posting pics that don't hold a candle to half the people in this forum from what I have seen.

Please forgive my feeble attempts, I did the best I could...

I have learned a lot from the pics on this forum and I look forward to improving my abilities. A good community on this forum. Thanks for the encouragement.

Frank
Frank,
Welcome aboard!
No need for any apologies, all your stuff is awesome....Thanks for posting your work.
John

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Post by zaevor2000 »

Good to see you over here John!

I have enjoyed interacting with you on the other forum (MSH). I am an admirer of your work. I like the moderns you have shown. Great terrain boards as well! I still use my Panzerblitz terrain boards for a quick set up at Collin Creek with our group due to the set up time, but I like the flexibility of the hexes.

The set up time w/ the hexes was one of the limitations of previous hex systems. I like the idea that GHQ has of combining the utility of a terrain board w/ the modularity of the hexes. The terrain features I still like to create by hand. You probably noticed the spurs and draws and saddles on the ridge lines.

I tried to create the squared off woodlines you see in Germany and my pics also reminded me that the hills were primarily wooded and most of the ground level was the sections. I am still thinking on how to do those. I'm thinking making 2" x 4" sections, flocking them into a pair of 1x4 sections, and then plopping them down on the board in the clear sections as I do my current villages.

I also am still thinking how I want to do my built-up areas. This is definitely the place to go for inspiration and ideas.

Thanks again for your comments and encouragement. It's good to see you here!

I hope this finds you well. Always good talking with you.

Frank

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Post by tstockton »

zaevor2000,

You said...
I recommend picking up at least 9 bottles of Mud (Polly Scale Model Railroad Paint -water base) for each Skirmish board set.
If I may... a much cheaper alternative is to go to a craft store (such as Michaels or Hobby Lobby), or even some "big box" stores (like Wal-Mart) and pick up some craft paints. I use Delta Ceramcoat's "Trail Tan" for my hexes -- it comes in both 2 oz. and 4 oz. bottles -- and is a whole lot cheaper than "the good stuff" (like Testors or Polly Scale). The 2 oz. bottles usually run from 89¢ or so to about $1.30 per bottle, depending on whether you can catch them on sale or not. The 4 oz. bottles are a better bargain, but not all of the colors are available in the larger sizes.

And thank you for posting your pictures! They look pretty darned good to me!

Regards,
Tom Stockton
"Well, I've been to one World's Fair, a picnic, and a rodeo, and that's the stupidest thing I ever heard come over a set of earphones. You sure you got today's codes?"

-- Major T. J. "King" Kong in "Dr. Strangelove"

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Post by zaevor2000 »

Hi Tom,

I happen to have your website as one of my favorites. Your terrain hexes are inspiring and I hope to emulate and spice mine up in a similar manner in the future. Your tutorial on your website and pictures are absolutely superb! Mine are plain canvases right now but I hope to rectify that before too long. :wink:

I agree w/ what you say on your website regarding GHQ vs. other manufactures. Like you my collection in about 99.2% GHQ and a few foreigners (very few-under 20 out of 2,000) that GHQ will never produce since the equipment is out of service and it would probably not be cost effective for the few sales they would garner. Having said that, not only am I impressed by the detail of the minis (I celebrate 30 yrs of GHQ this year), but I am even more impressed by the quality of the people that I have talked to and chatted with when I have called GHQ when placing orders. Not to mention this is an outstanding forum that is very supportive and everyone freely shares their knowledge (as you have so selflessly done with your OUTSTANDING tutorial on creating visually stunning Terrain Maker hexes).

Thank you very much for the suggestions on the paint! I too for many years have used Ceramcoat by Delta, and FolkArt paints from Hobby Lobby for non-camouflage colors (such as my hexes which I paint Old Ivy before I flock them).

I like the visual of the tanks without the bases, but for playability purposes I mount mine on bases to preserve the barrels (I lost 2 of the barrels on my original King Tigers) and mount them on 1" x 1 1/2". This enables me to protect the precious barrels on my self-propelled/tank destroyers as well as post-war and late-war long-barreled tank designs such as Panther and Tiger. I also like to put a based-size excel cut-out of game info on the bottom so you can just look at the bottom and not have to look anything up!

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I like to create data cards to keep all the info consolidated in one place. What I have found is any game slows down when people have to look one place for the unit info to find out which weapon your using, look another place for info on your target, and another place for the weapon your firing. It is so much easier to just look at a data card or turn the mini over! Just my humble opinion from many years of playing with our group and running minis events at cons in Houston and Dallas.

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Everything is fairly intuitive. Black for convenional armor/anti-armor values, orange is HEAT related, blue is HE/anti personnel, green is speed cross-country. I tried to select colors that were intuitive (like green for grass...).

I like to put my firing values at the bottom of the firing card so they can be matched up to the armor values on the top of the target card if desired. Match up the top of one to the bottom of the other and you have everything you need (or just flip over the bottom of the target your shooting at).

For KE and HEAT you roll the number (or less) on a d10 in the parenthesis to hit. For HE just roll the number (or less) on a d10. Unit then makes a cover roll. Very easy and games flows quickly. 2nd roll on d10 (1-5 turret hit/6-10 hull hit). 1 is always a kill regardless that renders an NPK (non penetrating kill), 10 is always a miss. Needless to say if you're Hull Down, the 6-10 roll results in a miss. Very good for simulating the effect of Hull-Down.

Just trying to contribute as others on this forum so generously do!

Thank you, Tom. I really appreciate your suggestion and encouragement! I hope your day is going well!

I for one am very glad I joined this forum and am very appreciative of everyone's support and encouragement.

Frank

aka zaevor 2000
Roy (Frank) Waugh

former 19D20 (SGT) Cav Scout, E Trp, 2/2 ACR from Sept 85-Mar 88.

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Post by tstockton »

Okay, I've finally gotten around to taking some pictures of my first efforts with the Micro Skirmish boards...

Overhead shot

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Slightly oblique angle

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"Not quite flat" view

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A little higher, zoomed in...

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Directly overhead the Shermans on the road

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"Reverse angle"...

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The first three tanks

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I think the Micro Skirmish Boards are a pretty cool product! But I do agree with Frank (zaevor2000) -- and I am going to paint the boards black. I picked up a can of Kyrlon Acrylic Black spray paint to do the job.

My only problems with the terrain are:

(a) hexes are not perfectly symmetrical, as has been pointed out in other posts on this thread...
(b) My worksmanship is not perfectly symmetrical, either! :roll: This is very evident at the edges of road, river and railroad hexes. (sigh)

Anyway, hope y'all enjoy these pics!

Regards,
Tom Stockton
"Well, I've been to one World's Fair, a picnic, and a rodeo, and that's the stupidest thing I ever heard come over a set of earphones. You sure you got today's codes?"

-- Major T. J. "King" Kong in "Dr. Strangelove"

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Post by zaevor2000 »

Absolutely NO reason to apologize.

BEAUTIFUL terrain Tom! Wonderfully crafted works of art such as your terrain are definite eye candy! They really set the scene and make the gaming experience much more enjoyable.

Many props to GHQ for making smaller hexes that are more flexible than Geo-Hex and kudos to them for providing the rails to keep everything locked in place which make them much more transportable.

Tom, your work is absolutely inspiring. Thank you very much for sharing!

Frank

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