2009-2010 New Release List

[pmskaar]

Regarding the Pz IVG. If I have to choose either the early or late version then I would go with the earlier version. In the old days, GHQ used to do packs with 2 versions in them such as the early and Late Panther G, 2 similar T-34's etc. They seem to have abandoned that practice so I would expect only one version. The late version with the sideskirts could easily be represented by the Pz IVH. I will do some more checking in my Squadron Signal book on the Pz IV to see what other differences there are but probably no significant differences.
On the other hand, the double baffle muzzle brake and the lack of vision ports on the side of the turret give enough difference between it and the Pz IVF to have a separate model in my opinion. I sincerely hope GHQ will do a whole new sculpt for this model - that would be really sweet.

As stated, I will buy some of the new 76mm Shermans but am awaiting M4A3 early version with the split hatch and early glacis. GHQ's range of Shermans, while extensive, covers the early war for the Americans and the late war but not the critical Normandy time frame. The old Sherman that GHQ made was a sort of strange hybrid with the early suspension and the split hatch but a late glacis without the protruding drivers and MG gunners blocks.

Some of what people want depends on their style of gaming and interest. For some the vehicles are mere game pieces so that any Sherman, Panther, or T-34 will do to represent their forces throughout whatever war they are fighting. Others such as myself, are modelers as well as gamers and appreciate the differences between different models of the same vehicle. Of course within that parameter, I realize it is not economically feasible for GHQ to do all models of every vehicle ever made. I am willing to settle in the case of the Pz IV, for example, that the late G, the H, and the J models will probably be fairly well represented by the Pz IVH. If GHQ decides to do the other models of this tank - great, but I'm not expecting them anytime soon.

Pete - Binpicker, Out!

[Harlan]

Does any know what type of T-72 the new T-72 model is? It looks like a T-72B to me, but I would see what you think.

[Mickel]

No ER array. Pity. Still... I'll no doubt get some to go with the rest of the hordes, not to mention others off the new items list.

[Mk 1]

Does any know what type of T-72 the new T-72 model is? It looks like a T-72B to me, but I would see what you think.

Agreed. Looks like a T-72B1 to me.

So I would say it is a fair replacement for the model described as the T-74 ( W-28 ), which I have many dozens of, which I have always considered to be a T-72B1. Looks like a new master / new molds, but not a new vehicle.

Sigh.

[Noble713]

As I am a collector rather than a wargamer, these new models are a tremendous boost. Those who do not like them can convert made models or wait until new releases appear.

Collector? What exactly does that mean? Do you treat them like baseball cards? This is a serious question. In the absence of pushing them around on a table, I'd say they are only good for looking pretty in a display case. In that situation, what makes an SdKfz 351/22 more "collectible" than, say, a Eurofighter Typhoon? or a BMP-2M? How is one a "tremendous boost" and the others (potentially, since no one makes a Typhoon) not?

I don't think the constant threads expressing opposition or dislike are going to change GHQ's policies one bit. Keep on, keepin' on, GHQ.

Part of the problem is that no one else produces 6mm moderns of GHQ's quality. I can convert alternatives for things like Warhammer Chaos daemons from the extensive line-up of other companies' offerings. I have no interest in converting tiny 6mm vehicles and infantry, so a T-84-120 Oplot needs to look exactly like a T-84-120, and not like a T-80, or a molten lump of pewter (Irregular Miniatures, anyone?).

I vote with my wallet. Games Workshop has steadily sent their prices through the roof and as a consequence I haven't bought anything from them in 5 years, maybe more. They've put out some nice figures since then (plastic Bloodletters for Warhammer Fantasy) but I'm still not giving them my money.

Likewise, when GHQ makes something I find interesting, I buy it (their prices are pretty reasonable). When they don't....I don't buy it. But sales figures are only so useful to a company, and sometimes saying "Ya know, I'd give you my money if you did XYZ" is useful.

[av8rmongo]

and sometimes saying "Ya know, I'd give you my money if you did XYZ" is useful.

What he said. Year to date so far I have spent $175. - $200. with other vendors because they support what I'm interested in. Maybe that's not a huge sum of money. Maybe its not enough to convince anyone of the viability of a product line. But every year its the same, my money is going elsewhere. Money I would have gladly sent GHQ's way. The quality of what I'm getting may not be the same as GHQ (and on balance their prices aren't as high as GHQ) but with more investment I can see steady improvements. Their ranges are geeting wider all the time and they listen to what customers want.

GHQ is a business, I understand that. I don't expect them to cater to my wishes. But if they do not, I will find someone who will.

Paul

[Johannes]

As I am a collector rather than a wargamer, these new models are a tremendous boost. Those who do not like them can convert made models or wait until new releases appear.

Thanks m8 for this tremendous helpful post.
As you are the collector you normally need just one model. Me and other GHQ customers seem to be wargamers and maybe there are even some people like me who play 1:1 scale.

Easy to figure out who should do the conversions and who needs more than one model to play and not to waste all his time on conversions.

[Ritter]

As I am a collector rather than a wargamer, these new models are a tremendous boost. Those who do not like them can convert made models or wait until new releases appear.

Thanks m8 for this tremendous helpful post.
As you are the collector you normally need just one model. Me and other GHQ customers seem to be wargamers and maybe there are even some people like me who play 1:1 scale.

Easy to figure out who should do the conversions and who needs more than one model to play and not to waste all his time on conversions.

Good Point!

At the height of my gaming, I had 2 full companys of Panzer IV Hs alone!

I cannot imagine converting or backdating 44 x tanks to the G version!!

Troy

[Schwerepunkt]

I collect as many German Panzers and vehicles as possible and make dioramas with them. I do more than just collect one or two.
I have an entire German Panzer Division and hope to have two before two long. You gentlemen cannot understand collecting as opposed to your pushing your little models around some plastic octagons rolling die and saying hit, or some such. I have over 1,000 1/1200 ship models and often show the best off at games/cons and such. It gives me pleasure to take pictures and photoshop them as well as my 1/285 models.
If you individuals don't like it, tough bleep.
It is certainly rewarding to me that you back up each other so well with such great friendship.
Just keep on playing your little armor games or civil war games or whatever. It is a wonderful hobby, wargaming or collecting. To each his own

[GHQ]

We actually have a huge number of customers who are modelers/collectors, and don't play games. In most cases these are not people who just buy one of each model. They are usually people who model full units at different organizational levels. Many of them have storage cabinets for things like maps that are wide and deep, but not too tall, and they store there miniatures in formation on large sheets that can be pulled out to show off the whole unit at once. Many others build dioramas. As the previous post mentioned, it doesn't matter if people collect, model, or play games with the miniatures, as long as we have great customers who buy them, we will keep making them. We are all in this together.

Thank you for your support,
GHQ

[Mk 1]

I too shall chime in on the cause of the collectors.

As most here know, I am an avid gamer, though perhaps not an "often" gamer. But I do love my wargaming, and delight in both the imagination and the companionship that are involved in a good game.

It is my long standing fascination with military history that has led me to micro-armor in the first place, and it is my fascination with military history that keeps me in the hobby, rather than any fascination with gaming. I consider myself an amature historian first, gamer (or collector) only after that. I have studied tanks since I was in elementary school, and have consumed every book, manual, or video abouit tanks that I can lay my hands on.

My personal library is numbered in the many hundreds, if not thousands, of volumes.

So I collect books.

My micro-armor forces are also numbered in the many hundreds, if not thousands, of vehicles.

So I collect little tanks.

During my 30+ years of involvement with micro-armor, there have been several multi-year stretches where I did no gaming at all. Didn't have a set of rules to use. Didn't know anyone to game with. During those stretches I still kept my micro-armor. I usually continued acquiring, painting, and organizing my forces ... or just taking them out and putting them on a table in formations.

I can recall during the early 1990s when I built my modern Soviet force (at the end of the Soviet era). It was my fascination with Soviet military strength that drove me to keep acquiring and painting. Much as they say that if you want to really learn a subject you should try teaching it, for me if I want to really learn a TOE I should model it! I learned the organization of Soviet motor rifle or tank battalions and regiments more deeply, more clearly, and more permanently by actually buying and building them, than I ever would have just by reading about them.

So am I a gamer? Yep.

But I am also a collector. Most definitely. Much like a stamp collector.

It's just that stamp collectors don't get to play with their stamps like I do with my little toy tanks.

[chrisswim]

I collect, but I initially collected to game, which is my primary purpose. I paint to game. I enjoy looking at a collection and finely painted figures.

As Schwerepunkt said: " have an entire German Panzer Division and hope to have two before two long. You gentlemen cannot understand collecting as opposed to your pushing your little models around some plastic octagons rolling die and saying hit, or some such."

I can understand collecting and gaming. I to have some vehicles that number in the 1000's. Then I can 'play' a visual game in different camo schemes such as a desert battle, European or Mideastern, African or in the Far East. Have different paint patterns so that we can conduct a " 'NATO' senario" with Dutch Leopard 2A6s vs. German Leo2A6s, etc. New gamers can enjoy that type of game and build the hobby or gaming and collecting. I do not have many B-2 bombers, only 1(one). So am I a collector and/or a gamer? YES.

For those that collect and create nice visual grouping, show your stuff on/in terrain. We all enjoy it a lot and can learn. Hope to see more. chris

[Schwerepunkt]

...whether gaming or collecting. I appreciate the agreement some have contributed and believe me, if there was a gaming group in my home area, I would go and see what is involved. I played naval wargames for years and still play solitaire. Unfortunately, most of the lads I played with are on to other hobbies, pleasures, or whatever.
For me, Wehrmacht '47 has been a tremendous boost to my interest. I can understand why some gamers are frustrated because the models they like are not made YET. The MATILDA I is a great tank for the period it was used and it took great courage for the men who manned them to take on the German panzerabteilung. I truly believe that all things come to he who waits. Maybe I am naiive but I do believe that. The naval side of this hobby in 1/2400 scale is great. GHQ makes more accurate models in some cases thatn 1/1200 scale and that is saying something.
When I get my painting finished, I will post pictures on this site. It will be difficult to fit the forces into the picture because I have Allied armor as well as Axis.

[DrBig]

The more opposition there is to the new line of German armor (Wehrmacht '47), the more I will write to support it.

OK Punkt, here's another chance to get on your soap box. The lack of a StuIG33b has kept at least a grand in my wallet & not spent on 1/285. At least a grand. And I have lots of $ for my hobbies. Probably lot's more than a grand when I think about it.

I have over 1000 15mm vehicles in my wargaming collection...do the math. That's excluding aircraft & little dudes.

The lack of ONE key vehicle type for ONE key battle has killed my interest in 1/285 for WW2, Nam, Yom Kippur, NATO/WARPAC, Moderns, Third World, etc.

That $20-30K that GHQ missed out on from ONE customer. And I still don't buy.

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[Schwerepunkt]

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Schwerepunkt:

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