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TAMMY wrote:One of the big advanmtage of a carrier group is its mobility and the difficulty to locate it.
Yes, it is in fact easy for a carrier battle group to hide in the open. The carrier may look big, but it is SMALL compared to the ocean!

A carrier's mobility is an overwhelming advantage. And not just because it makes the carrier difficult to locate. Mobility also brings the ability to consolidate attack forces in space and time, and then to disburse again. This gives an overwhelming advantage if one seeks to sieze the initiative.
exodusforever wrote:But lets just get a picture of how gigantic the US navy is. I read in a Jane's Defense Report that the presence of 1 Aircraft carrier in the Taiwanese Straits can boost Taiwanese Air Defense by 50%.

In fact, I think there are more Fighter aircraft in 1 single US Aircraft Carrier than there are in My small tiny island nation of Singapore. And in terms of air Superiority, Our nation in the South East Asian region is one of the cream of the crop.
Not only does a USN carrier posses a powerful striking force. A USN carrier also possesses the ability to combine it's power with other USN carriers.

Here is an interesting little statistic to note from naval aviation history. It is a widely held belief that land-based air is the bane of naval forces. It is often said that navies operate only at their peril within range of enemy land-based air.

And yet, since the appearance of the aircraft carrier, I believe there is not one single instance of land-based air "winning" a dual with a carrier strike-force. I believe that there are more than a dozen cases of carrier strike-forces eliminating enemy land-based air threats, but NO cases of the opposite -- of land-based air forces eliminating the strike wing of an enemy carrier force.

Having the ability to move your airfields is a mighty advantage. Static airfields are far more vulnerable to attack, even if the mobile ones can be sunk.
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Got this from Jane's Navy

North Korean torpedo sank Chon An, investigators say
This is a revised version of an article published on 20 May A North Korean CHT-02D torpedo with an explosive warhead of 250 kg sank the South Korean corvette Chon An , an international investigation team concluded on 20 May, raising further tensions on the Korean peninsula. After examining the wreckage of the ship as well as the fragments found at the bottom of the Yellow Sea (West Sea) where it sank on 26 March, experts from Australia, South Korea, Sweden, the UK and the United States said that a torpedo made in North Korea was responsible for the disaster

Got me thinking of a North Korea v South Korea Naval Battle.

Is there possibilities for ships to have an advantage to take out the old diesal submarines that North Korea have.

And on a bigger picture. What would be the bigger repercussion of a conflict arise? WIll South Korea based on warfare equipment and manpower be superior to North Korea, with the exclusion of nuclear weapons.
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Post by voltigeur »

From what I have read the sonar conditions around the Korean Peninsula are really funky. There are extreme temperature changes in the water and very rough terrain on the bottom. It is an area that plays to the diesel’s strengths.

That being said the surface group still has options and the proximity to airbases allows easy saturation of an area. Magnetic Anomaly Detection is a good technique in this area especially since (last I heard) the Korean sub fleet is made up of older boats.

It would make for some interesting naval games. I played a computer game about the Korean War going hot in 1999. I found it much tougher than trying to defend Europe from the red hoard. The situation was that China knew of a pending North Korean attack on the South and planned an attack on Taiwan at the same time. This severely restricted US reinforcement of the South. This game was tough, frustrating and very interesting.
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Post by exodusforever »

Political relations between China and Taiwan are relatively staable. Should a conflict arise between both Korea's, it would be highly unlikely that China would join in the fray and attack Taiwan at this point of time. Given the current significant FDI and economic driven factors that Taiwan has put into China.

However, on a more focus scope of the Korean Conflict, while I do not forsee it escalating into a full blown conflict and rathe rmere political play between the two sides.
Things are way more volatile.

The question that is really interesting for me to delve in is..Should it arise.
Does the South stand a better advantage in elminating the naval presence of the North. Excluding aid from US and China.

With an array of naval combatant, 1 of which has aegis capabilities. And its own fair share of diesel electric more modernised Submarine. Could it combat North Korean's old by large fleet of submarines and surface combatant?

Surface combatants (destroyers and frigates)
• Sejong the Great class (DDG: Destroyer Guided-missile; 1 in service)
• Chungmugong Yi Sunshin class (DDH: Destroyer Helicopter; 6 in service)
• Kwanggaeto the Great class (DDH; 3 in service)
• Ulsan class (FF: Frigate; 9 in service)

ROKS Lee Sunsin (SS 068)
• Sohn Wonyil class (SS: Submarine; 3 in service)
• Chang Bogo class (SS; 9 in service)
• Dolgorae class (SSM: Midget Submarine; 2 in service)
[edit] Patrol ships (corvettes and patrol craft)
• Pohang class (PCC: Patrol Combat Corvette; 22 in service)
• Donghae class (PCC; 3 in service)
• Yoon Youngha class (PKG: Patrol Killer Guided-missile; 1 in service)
• Chamsuri class (PKM: Patrol Killer Medium; approx. 80 in service)
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