M-ATV, Replacement for the HUMMV?

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M-ATV, Replacement for the HUMMV?

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Oshkosh Corporation Awarded $1.05 Billion Delivery Order to Supply M-ATV to Soldiers, Marines

OSHKOSH, Wis. – June 30, 2009 – The U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) announced today it has selected Oshkosh Corporation (NYSE:OSK) to supply MRAP All Terrain Vehicles (M-ATV) for its fighting forces. Oshkosh has received an initial delivery order from the U.S. Army Tank-automotive and Armaments Command (TACOM) Life Cycle Management Command (LCMC) for 2,244 M-ATVs valued at $1.05 billion, following months of government testing on multiple production-ready vehicles...
http://www.oshkoshdefense.com/defense/p ... v~home.cfm

jb "I saw a bunch of them on flatbed railcars today, and I didn't know what they were..."
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I am wondering if GHQ will have these, & others that Oshkosh makes sometime in the near future :?: 8)
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Post by Donald M. Scheef »

Based on recent past performance of US Government purchasing policies, it would probably be a good idea if GHQ waited a few years to see if a significant number of these vehicles will really be built.

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Post by 33YearsGHQ »

Actually, unlike days of old, these are rapidly rolling off the assembly line to serve in Afghanistan where they are specifically designed for. Better performance in the hills & mountains than up-armoured HUMMV's. This would be a great model for later in 2010.
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...I saw another train load of these go by today...
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Does this mean that the CSI Miami team will need to get new vehicles, too? What about Ahhnold the Guvinator? See, these things need to be thought through! There are ripple effects throughout the whole economy! :lol:

I wonder if inside knowledge of this upcoming deal had anything to do with GM's efforts to dump Hummer-America on the Chinese... :roll:

'Course it always seemed a bit odd to me that the Chinese nixed the deal because the Hummer wasn't "green" enough, given that they still operate 90% of the world's coal-burning locomotives. :roll: :roll: So maybe they figured out they would be behind on the branding of military hot-rods to the civilian market. I mean, who would want to buy a Hummer once the 2012 model Matver's come out? 8)
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Post by chrisswim »

Well, buy stock in Oshkosh, that is $467,000 per vehicle. Nice ticket. Wish I was the sales guy on that on.

Thank you for the post and info, oh take your camera to work so next time a train goes by you can get multiple photos. Thank you.

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I finaly got a picture of one of the trains hauling these beauties. Sorry but I had to take the picture with my phone as the train steamed by. I will try to get some videos in the near future...Image
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Post by echoco »

Lurker here

A few years back when I read about the requirements for these, the Marines said they wanted a vehicle that could carry 6 (half a squad) so I guess they changed their requirements here.

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Re: M-ATV, Replacement for the HUMMV?

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jb wrote:Oshkosh Corporation Awarded $1.05 Billion Delivery Order to Supply M-ATV to Soldiers, Marines
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I am wondering if GHQ will have these, & others that Oshkosh makes sometime in the near future :?: 8)
Well they are actually being used in combat so that seems to be a strike against them going into production. GHQ focuses on vehicles that have never been on a battlefield rather than troops and vehicles that we could use to fight historical wargames..

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Re: M-ATV, Replacement for the HUMMV?

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jb wrote:Oshkosh Corporation Awarded $1.05 Billion Delivery Order to Supply M-ATV to Soldiers, Marines

OSHKOSH, Wis. – June 30, 2009 – The U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) announced today it has selected Oshkosh Corporation (NYSE:OSK) to supply MRAP All Terrain Vehicles (M-ATV) for its fighting forces. Oshkosh has received an initial delivery order from the U.S. Army Tank-automotive and Armaments Command (TACOM) Life Cycle Management Command (LCMC) for 2,244 M-ATVs valued at $1.05 billion, following months of government testing on multiple production-ready vehicles...
http://www.oshkoshdefense.com/defense/p ... v~home.cfm

jb "I saw a bunch of them on flatbed railcars today, and I didn't know what they were..."
Image
I am wondering if GHQ will have these, & others that Oshkosh makes sometime in the near future :?: 8)
... made the new list! Way to go GHQ :!:
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Post by TAMMY »

The original order for 2.244 M-ATV should have been completed in March, but in the meantime the vehicles on order have raised to 8.079. So they will become a quite common view.
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Post by Timothy OConnor »

Any guesses as to armor protection vs small arms fire? I would think at least 7.62mm but what about 12.5mm or even 14.5mm?

The lower hull appears to have the now standard v-shape to disperse IED blasts. RPGs would probably still be a serious threat, no?

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Post by TAMMY »

It is difficult to state the actual level of protection. It is defined as "a welle desogne Plasan armour". Additional kits for protection against RPG have been ordered and under installation. They should be quite important as the width of the vehicle goes from 2,4 to 2,7m.

The V-shape of the bopttom is a good protection sgains IED or mines on the road but what is the protection against IED on the side of the road or sucide cars filled with explosive? In Afghanistan the size of IED is increasing.

Anyway I think that it is adequately prtected aginst the usual threats without too much increase in weight.

My only doubt is about its actual mobility in the mountain. The vehicle is large and at 15tons quite heavy too. I have never been in Afghanistan but I know the Italian Alps, and there are many areas that such a vehicle would have a lot of difficulties to cross.
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Post by jb »

Has anybody ordered some of the GHQ M-ATVs? I saw a picture of one of the models next to a group of 3 M-109 models and the M-ATV seemed to be the same size as the arty; is this true?
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