Micronaut Only Thread

exodusforever · Post by **exodusforever** » Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:43 am

foxbat, you have really fine looking ships too!

I really do like the simple bases that you have made for your ships.

Are they custom-made or did you buy them of the rack from somewhere?

foxbat · Post by **foxbat** » Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:22 pm

Bases are bought from Litko, or from Old Dominion Games Workshop. Names are printed on a common printer, and then stickied using some common sticky protective film for books cover (running the school's library provides me with an ample stockpile of unusable otherwise chutes)

Mk1, thanks for your feedback and suggestions. Like the Solomons campaign, for which I have already built fleets, the Med is the most fascinating bit of surface naval warfare of WW2, as it sees forces of comparable strength pitted against each other for long time without, all things taken into account, seeing such an overwhelming role of aviation. Being French myself, the Toulon scuttling of 1942 is a real heartbreak for the naval enthusiast I am also. The "Royale" of the time (as our Navy is affectionately nicknamed) was really a quantum leap away from the disaster it had been in the Great War. It had some of the times finest ships, and was tailored to fight the Regia Marina, which had answered in kind, so the result of a war would have been most uncertain. I'll certainly try it out now, and post the results here.

You are also correct regarding our ships' designs. This had been a tradition since Dupuy de LÃ´me... but while the results were appalling prior to the Great War and Emile Bertin's tenure (see http://www.cityofart.net/bship/frameset6.html ), they were much more successful in the late thirties : the quadruple turrets allowed to gain weight and increase protection at the cost of "putting all eggs in the same basket". Of course, this gave them a weird, but not unpleasant IMO, look.

Regarding the models themselves, I'll just say that "the best damn wargaming products" is true, and that they are a pleasure to paint. They are so detailed that they nearly paint themselves on their own. They are also so good that they are addictive : you have hinted at a RN fleet, and well, that looks tempting to provide a third choice for Med Games. I have hinted at the Great War, and that too is a temptation I have started to indulge, having bought a one off (for now) Danton.

If I may express awish, that would be that GHQ keeps casting so that we can keep painting.

foxbat · Post by **foxbat** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:43 pm

And a few DDs

IJN Yugiri & Fuyutsuki

And a handful of Fletcher Class, Monssen, Fletcher & Jenkins

dragon6 · Post by **dragon6** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:42 am

Foxbat your modeling and photography are both sublime

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They are so detailed that they nearly paint themselves on their own.

I wish my models knew how to do that

Do you offer bribes to them? What does a pewter ship model want?

Brigade Commander · Post by **Brigade Commander** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:21 am

Right thread but a different topic. I had a website at one time but it was on a hard drive that crashed. I'm sure I got it from here but I can't find it. Yes, I know get on with it! There is (I hope not was!) a website, by a Frenchman I believe, that did an awesome job of covering all of the major naval fleets and battles of WWII. I've been trying different searches and can't get the search right I guess. Anyone currently on here know it? I used it some years ago.

Started building a few ships. I eventually want to have all the ships that fought the series of named battles, and just plain skirmishes, from ** CENSORED **(so why is the preview telling me that it is going to censor G U A D A L C A N A L?) to around the Tarawa invasion. Then maybe the Surigao Strait actions. Although if GHQ ever makes the sister I'll have to do both the Scharnhorst and Gneisenau. Something about the sisters I always liked! As you can tell I'm mostly a surface warfare guy. I suppose I'll eventually have to include the Wasp, Hornet and Enterprise as well. Carriers are just boring.

I currently have three cruisers and six destroyers. I'm probably going to build up by action, chronologically.

And, as always, thanks!

Donald M. Scheef · Post by **Donald M. Scheef** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:48 pm

Reason for censoring:
GHQ has a filter that searches for words or even parts of words that have scatological, vulger, or obscene meaning. For the problem with G u a d a l c a n a l, delete the "Guadalc." You will also lose many British counties (and associated titled individuals & warships) ending with "s*x." Obviously, a55ault gun also kicks out. For some reason I cannot fathom, it also censors the name of the French aircraft manufacturer "B r e g u e t."

It's really more of a nuisance than a real problem. When reading, I recognize the name of the island in the Solomon Islands when *Censored* shows up. When writing a post, I try to remember to put in a strategic space or *. If you forget or miss one, you can always go back and edit your posting.

Don S.

Mikee · Post by **Mikee** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:44 am

Fullmetaljacket:

Regarding the thin masts on D. of E. and other ships, I use a pair of tweezers/tongs, about 3 - 4 inches long, with spade shaped ends to straighten out masts of all kinds. I got mine 40 or more years ago when I collected stamps. However, I think I saw some for sale in the "Micromark" catalog. The spade ends are good for straightening small things.

Pins, like Donald suggested. make me nervous - they disappear so easily in a carpet. When I was married, my wife was a bit sloppy with her pins, & I found one in the carpet. With my foot. Half of the pin buried itself in my foot, & the other half waited 'till later to be found (two trips to the emergency room).

ww2navyguy · Post by **ww2navyguy** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:48 am

Brigade Commander wrote:Right thread but a different topic. I had a website at one time but it was on a hard drive that crashed. I'm sure I got it from here but I can't find it. Yes, I know get on with it! There is (I hope not was!) a website, by a Frenchman I believe, that did an awesome job of covering all of the major naval fleets and battles of WWII. I've been trying different searches and can't get the search right I guess. Anyone currently on here know it? I used it some years ago.

I'm not sure if I have ever heard of the website you were referring to, however, I have two websites that I think have excellent data for WWII Order of Battles for naval engagements.

Here are the two weblinks:

(1) The first one is called Fire on the Waters and is a "free sharing webpage" where you can navigate and download pdf files of specific actions in various theaters.

http://fireonthewaters.tripod.com/fotw.htm

(2) The second one is also a good resource for several eras and multiple theaters.

http://www.navweaps.com/index_oob/index_oob.htm

I hope these are helpful.

TAMMY · Post by **TAMMY** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:29 am

Brigade Commander

try this site

http://users.swing.be/navbat/toc.html

Brigade Commander · Post by **Brigade Commander** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:28 am

ww2navy guy: I came across the navweaps site while trying to search for the other site. It is definitely helpful. It even includes the names of the ship captains on up. Nowhere else I've seen does that!

TAMMY: TARGET!

Bookmarked! (Well, again. And I wrote it down. Next lost hard drive will not stop me!).

Thanks! I like the fact that it not only gives you the condition of each and every ship at the end of the battle but you can click on a link and go to a page with all of the ships' stats.

As always thanks for all the help to one and all.

Now, must start work on a cruiser / destroyer order.

Brigade Commander · Post by **Brigade Commander** » Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:55 am

Anyone do an early (i.e. 1942) Saratoga, Yorktown or Enterprise? All of the catalog items appear to be too late or too modified. If so, suggestions please. I'm not there just yet. I have a few more cruisers and destroyers to finish the Allied side for the First and Second (Cape Esperance) Battles of Savo Island. Then I can move onto the Battle of the Easterrn Solomons and the appearance of the carriers. I realize the Yorktown wasn't there but, one day maybe, Coral Sea may be done! I do have seven other battles to build the ships for first.

Can't wait to build the "Battle of Empress Augusta Bay" force. Four Clevelands and eight Fletchers. A simple enough force!

Brigade Commander · Post by **Brigade Commander** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:25 am

It's hard to tell for sure from the website picture of the model but as I compare it to my books it just looks like a bunch of work. I guess once I get there I'll make the carriers the last ships of their respective task forces to work on. I still can't believe the early versions aren't done though. These are the versions that kept us in the war after all! Oh well, just have to add this to the unexplained I guess.

Brigade Commander · Post by **Brigade Commander** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:03 pm

I have the camouflage schemes of all the USN ships during the time period I am working on in the Pacific but I don't have any information on the the three RAN ships: Australia, Canberra and Hobart. I don't know if the RAN changed them from the standard light gray overall and dark gray deck scheme that the RN had them painted in and turned them over in. The only photos I can find are black-and-white.

On a related note: on all of the USN schemes that are applicable to the ships I am modelling call for "Deck Blue" for all horizontal surfaces. This would certainly include the main battery turret tops but I can't verify that any ship painted the turret tops "Deck Blue". It would certainly leave a large area the alternate color if they aren't painted "Deck Blue". It would seem to negate the effect of the deck being in blue to blend in with the sea. Imagine the five main batteries of the Brooklyn class. Leaves a lot of gray showing. The later, related Saint Louis class was in Measure-21 and would have been in either "Sea Blue" or "Deck Blue" depending on how the turret tops were interpreted.

ww2navyguy · Post by **ww2navyguy** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:50 am

Brigade Commander wrote:I have the camouflage schemes of all the USN ships during the time period I am working on in the Pacific but I don't have any information on the the three RAN ships: Australia, Canberra and Hobart. I don't know if the RAN changed them from the standard light gray overall and dark gray deck scheme that the RN had them painted in and turned them over in. The only photos I can find are black-and-white.

On a related note: on all of the USN schemes that are applicable to the ships I am modelling call for "Deck Blue" for all horizontal surfaces. This would certainly include the main battery turret tops but I can't verify that any ship painted the turret tops "Deck Blue". It would certainly leave a large area the alternate color if they aren't painted "Deck Blue". It would seem to negate the effect of the deck being in blue to blend in with the sea. Imagine the five main batteries of the Brooklyn class. Leaves a lot of gray showing. The later, related Saint Louis class was in Measure-21 and would have been in either "Sea Blue" or "Deck Blue" depending on how the turret tops were interpreted.

Hi Brigade Commander.

Try this web link that I found which shows several illustrations and photos for HMAS Australia...

http://www.world-war.co.uk/Kent/australia.php3

and HMAS Canberra....

http://www.world-war.co.uk/Kent/canberra.php3

and HMAS Hobart....

http://www.world-war.co.uk/sydney/hobart.php3

When you "click" on several of the colored plates for each ship by date, the image enlarges and can be saved to you computer.

I hope this helps.