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Post by 7.62 »

Nazgul,
Thank you so much for posting these, much better than my feeble attempts.
Just what I was looking for, I need some new roads on my little airfield.
Love the older looking factory building too.
Keep them coming.

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Sorry gang, HERE are the short sections with the 10 foot wide sidewalks. I also included a few intersections and odds and ends.

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Here's an update on my "Block Party". Not finished, I have found mesh small enough to look like cyclone fence (from the wife's 50th Bday party, Bwahahaha) and will add it after I finish the other blocks. I want to detail more, but as a man said on a gaming site about making such boards "Do you want something to game with or are you making a diorama?"

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And the gratuitous Ratte shot :)

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I have found pictures of old red brick factories and plan to make one about the size of the hospital after I finish the Party. You are warned :D .
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With a tank that big you'll have to make a model of the Crimson Permanent Assurance to make the Block Party a fair fight.
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You know I did do that huge Russian tank some time ago . . . naaaw, that would be insane. Something straight out of the old Judge Dredd Block Wars game we played YEARS ago. . . ahhh . . . those were the days. :)

You know it would be better in 1/600 scale . . .

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Post by Donald M. Scheef »

I would like to suggest that the Ratte's comoflauge should be altered. With a brick-red overall finish and faux windows it would blend in as another apartment block.

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Don S.
I agree. :D

OKAY!!! The party is on!

Phase 2 is done. I'll eventually detail later with grass, signs, and some type of fence. In the meantime I'm planning to modify the red brick buildings for more variety and venture around town for pictures. I'll post the buildings as I get the sheets done. (You know all the scratch built vehicles had to end up somewhere :) )

Sorry for the fuzzy pictures.
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It looks like some of the city maps in WoT! Nice wide alleys between buildings so tanks can get through - I like it.
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Nazgul,

Holy cow, that is almost unbelievable! Yeah, yeah, I know, you printed a lot of that stuff and pasted it on cardboard and whatnot... but good grief, all that's missing is some curious or scared civilians, some pigeons, and some trash in the alleyways!! Dang, that really looks good!!

Now, here's a question...

From what little I know about the world (and my experiences are VERY limited) -- it seems to me that the only places with such wide streets and alleyways are in the U. S. and Canada. Only in rare occasions have I seen pictures or video of other parts of the world with streets that wide. I know that that my perceptions are very limited... but it seems to me that in most of the world, cities/towns came into being before that advent and adoptation of the automobile. I know that some cities in the U. S. have many very narrow streets / alleys, and many have room for a single lane of traffic -- and some less than that. I guess my question should be -- throughout the world, how common is it to see streets that straight and wide?

I'm not trying to be a "wet blanket", and forgive me if I am... but my mental picture of the rest of the world does not look like that. If you or anyone else would enlighten me, I would appreciate it.

In the meantime -- your efforts are among the finest I've ever seen depicting a built-up urban area! Kudos, congratulations, attaboys and standing ovations! Huzzah! Huzzah!!

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Thanks for the comments guys.

Honestly I was just going for some type of gaming board and keep busy.

You're right about the alley widths and, like you, I've only seen pictures of cities and towns over seas. (I was born in France when my father was stationed there in 1958, so I only have vague memories of a few buildings :( ).

I was also wanting something in North America. No one seems to have made anything for it outside of model railroading and it was an opportunity for a fresh start. Admittedly there hasn't been any wars fought here so I can understand the lack of interest from the gaming community (aside from doing old "B" movie giant insect games or zombie apocalypse). I do plan to model some of Rolla and MS&T (formally UMR) with the tight alleys and crowed blocks here. The town hasn't change much since 1974 aside from the college expanding and fits into what I'm looking for. I've already started on the block with the police station as a trial and am reasonably pleased. I have to venture over to the dog food factory to see if its doable as I'm wanting to do a factory of some sort.

Tom, visited your web site. My hat is off to all of you Micronaught guys. The level of detail you achieve is unbelievable! :shock:

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wolverines!!!

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I think that the buildings made by Nazgul are commercial ones (that is stores, small factoiries, etc.) and the layout of the area is correct and can be found all over the world even if with different building style.

You need relatively large roads (actually there is only a four lae road and many two lanes) for heavy trucks.

The situation will be completely different in the residental part with apartment blocks. Generally spekaing older the town narrower the roads. Since Roman times the classic layout was made by two main roads crossing with a lot of narrower side roads and often without a regular plan.

In Europe the gridded towns wre often born as Roman Colonies. It was a development of the Roman camp. You can see it with Google earth. I suggest to give a look to two Italian towns: Turin founded by Romans as Augusta Taurinorum and Milan that was a barbarian town conquered by the romans.

There is another cosideration in European towns, at least in the oldest part of mpostofthem. They were often walled towns with a lot of space constrains.
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Your right TAMMY. My main intention was to make some older red brick buildings to use for commercial sections of a town or city. I'm staying with flat roofs as most of the commercial buildings I have seen have them. I am also working on some type of marker system to indicate where troops might be inside (lots easier on a flat roof then a sloped roof :)) Please feel free to add sloped roofs. Once again, I am surprised about how many red brick buildings are in the area. I am currently changing windows and this slight difference makes them look a lot newer. I'm also making some with variation in colors to "mix things up". Except for the factory, I can't really see going much higher than 5 stories. Mainly due to the blocking of my vision to where the units might be.

What you said about the roads is also true, but I have seen a lot of traffic through 2 lane roads with heavy trucks, especially where there is no other way to get supplies or stock out. The 2 lane roads are tighter if you take 5mm of each side to make the sidewalk only 5 feet wide. It would work for those long alleys you see in some cities. I have also seen were a 2 lane road without shoulders has grown into a busy 6 lane highway by the local government "acquiring" property. In one small city the front yards have been built upon to where the houses only sit about 30 feet from a 6 lane road. I guess as far as making a layout "anything goes".

I appreciate your insight about how towns are laid out where you live and would like to learn more. That information seems to be hard to find, at least for me.

Thanks again. More on the way as soon as I can. (Confirmed that I should notify the local authorities before I go taking pictures. If you don't here from me please start a fund for bail :lol: )

Cris
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Post by Sudwind »

Those buildings and roads are great Nazgul! Thanks for uploading them to the site.

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Those buildings and roads are great Nazgul! Thanks for uploading them to the site.

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