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Those ships are great! I also like the idea of the wrecks, I'll convert some spare DD in wrecks.
I have a question about the wrecks: I see you black washed them, nonetheless they came out bright and shiny, and the shadows are very soft. How did you get that results?
Thank You!
Luca
I have a question about the wrecks: I see you black washed them, nonetheless they came out bright and shiny, and the shadows are very soft. How did you get that results?
Thank You!
Luca
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Thanks for the comments. The wash effect is the Army Painter brand of washes, the darkest colour (strong tone or dark tone, can't remember - there's only three and I use the darkest).
It goes on very glossy and heavy (I brush it on - it's called a dip, because you could dip figures right into it), but as it dries it creates that wonderful shadow effect.
It's totally cheating / easy mode, and I love it.
do some testing with your dullcoat spray though - I've had some odd reactions on finished models, where the paint wrinkles up. Generally I find if I do many thin coats of dullcoat, I don't have an issue, but if I spray it on heavy, I sometimes see a reaction.
I've tried a number of different types, including Army Painter brand varnish, and still had issues, so I'm not sure if it's my environment or what. But do some tests and get used to it.
It goes on very glossy and heavy (I brush it on - it's called a dip, because you could dip figures right into it), but as it dries it creates that wonderful shadow effect.
It's totally cheating / easy mode, and I love it.

do some testing with your dullcoat spray though - I've had some odd reactions on finished models, where the paint wrinkles up. Generally I find if I do many thin coats of dullcoat, I don't have an issue, but if I spray it on heavy, I sometimes see a reaction.
I've tried a number of different types, including Army Painter brand varnish, and still had issues, so I'm not sure if it's my environment or what. But do some tests and get used to it.
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I finally had a chance to examine the contents of GHQ's IJN31 in response to the question from dragon6. Here are the results of my examination:
4 x B6N2 "Jill" (open wings) [yes; actually 5]
4 x B6N2 "Jill" (folded wings) [yes; actually 5]
4 x B5N "Judy" (open wings) [This should be D4Y "Judy." There are 5 of the D4Y2 in-line version]
4 x B5N "Judy" (folded wings) [There's nothing that matches this. The D4Y "Judy" did not have folding wings.]]
7 x B5N-2 "Kate" (open wings) [yes; actually 8]
7 x B5N-2 "Kate" (folded wings) [yes; actually 8]
7 x D3A "Val" (open wings) [yes; actually 8]
7 x D3A "Val" (folded wings) [yes; actually 8]
14 x A6M2 "Zero" (open wings) [yes]
Don S.
4 x B6N2 "Jill" (open wings) [yes; actually 5]
4 x B6N2 "Jill" (folded wings) [yes; actually 5]
4 x B5N "Judy" (open wings) [This should be D4Y "Judy." There are 5 of the D4Y2 in-line version]
4 x B5N "Judy" (folded wings) [There's nothing that matches this. The D4Y "Judy" did not have folding wings.]]
7 x B5N-2 "Kate" (open wings) [yes; actually 8]
7 x B5N-2 "Kate" (folded wings) [yes; actually 8]
7 x D3A "Val" (open wings) [yes; actually 8]
7 x D3A "Val" (folded wings) [yes; actually 8]
14 x A6M2 "Zero" (open wings) [yes]
Don S.
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Thanks Don.Donald M. Scheef wrote:I finally had a chance to examine the contents of GHQ's IJN31 in response to the question from dragon6. Here are the results of my examination:
4 x B5N "Judy" (open wings) [This should be D4Y "Judy." There are 5 of the D4Y2 in-line version]
4 x B5N "Judy" (folded wings) [There's nothing that matches this. The D4Y "Judy" did not have folding wings.]]
7 x D3A "Val" (folded wings) [yes; actually 8]
Don S.
Might I ask a few questions?
The Judy D4Y with folded wings... folded in the middle? So unusable as anything else?
The Val D3A ... is it only the wingtips on this model? If so that's kinda OK for deck but usually they would have the wingtips down by the time they are lined up on deck.
Ray
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Ahhh... sorry didn't understand what you meant. Well that helps a bit but certainly need more Vals.Donald M. Scheef wrote:IJN31 has no "Judy" with folded wings. They did not exist historically and there's nothing like this in the pack.
For the D3A Val, it seems to me that the folding point is too far inboard, more than just the tips, but the size and shape makes it definitely Val.
Don S.
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My first IJN ships:

Akagi, Kaga (with the red dot) and Riyujo. I messed up with my first attempt at applying the decals. I ruined the Kaga deck scheme I wanted to use (the plain deck as before Midway). Then I over black washed the Akagi. The Riyujo came out well. I think that the best thing to do is to not apply the black wash on the deck. Sooner or later I'll buy another pair of Akagi and Kaga.

Tenryu and Tatsuta Light Cruisers

The 9 Kamikazes DD


The fleet
Happy new year to all!

Akagi, Kaga (with the red dot) and Riyujo. I messed up with my first attempt at applying the decals. I ruined the Kaga deck scheme I wanted to use (the plain deck as before Midway). Then I over black washed the Akagi. The Riyujo came out well. I think that the best thing to do is to not apply the black wash on the deck. Sooner or later I'll buy another pair of Akagi and Kaga.

Tenryu and Tatsuta Light Cruisers

The 9 Kamikazes DD


The fleet
Happy new year to all!
Ars & Mars
Military vehicles are beautiful because they are built from functional designs which make them real, solid, without artifice. The short timers
Erst wägen, dann wagen (first consider, then risk) von Moltke the Elder
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The December 2013 releases are out and there's already a picture of UKN51, MV Circassia. It is modeled as the pre-war commerical ship. It has none of the guns that were added when it was converted to an armed merchant cruiser, some of which were retained for later war-time conversions as a troop transport and infantry landing ship. It also has none of the assault craft that were carried in its late-war configuration as a LSI(L).
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I've started working on the GHQ model of the BB Kongo and I have a question that some of our more knowledgable members may be able answer for me. The model doesn't have the scoring that suggests deck planking in the bow forward of the capstans so I assumed this part of the deck was steel. However in looking at some references for this ship in its 1944 configuration, these references show the main deck fully planked from stem to stern. So the question is: is this model of the Kongo main deck supposed to be fully planked or is this forward section metal and painted the same as the hull?
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Begemot
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Begemot,
I've just been through exactly the same thing with HMS Lion. Each end was scored but the middle was smooth. I even found a plan drawing in Burt that agreed with the GHQ model - though it was too sparse in detail to properly indicate what exactly the surface actually was, if not wooden plank.
I even contacted GHQ about it - they had no answers. In the end I painted it up as wooden planking, even though it looks wrong without the scoring, as this one drawing (and the model itself) were the only two places I could find any indication whatsoever that the model's blank space middle was anything but wood, the model's etching notwithstanding.
Burt's and GHQ are good authorities, but Every other reference I could find had the entire deck, amidships included, as wooden plank. I went with the sheer numbers. It was hard, though, as the model's design looks so deliberate.
It would be interesting to check if the Burt's entry for your IJN vessel is similarly depicted. I have a theory that the GHQ designer(s) may have used these illustrations, which are not so much overtly incorrect as too sparse in detail to be used in such a way.
This is just my guess, remember. I never did reach a firm conclusion - and the resulting model looks a touch odd - despite opening discussion on the forum, as you yourself have done ...
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I've just been through exactly the same thing with HMS Lion. Each end was scored but the middle was smooth. I even found a plan drawing in Burt that agreed with the GHQ model - though it was too sparse in detail to properly indicate what exactly the surface actually was, if not wooden plank.
I even contacted GHQ about it - they had no answers. In the end I painted it up as wooden planking, even though it looks wrong without the scoring, as this one drawing (and the model itself) were the only two places I could find any indication whatsoever that the model's blank space middle was anything but wood, the model's etching notwithstanding.
Burt's and GHQ are good authorities, but Every other reference I could find had the entire deck, amidships included, as wooden plank. I went with the sheer numbers. It was hard, though, as the model's design looks so deliberate.
It would be interesting to check if the Burt's entry for your IJN vessel is similarly depicted. I have a theory that the GHQ designer(s) may have used these illustrations, which are not so much overtly incorrect as too sparse in detail to be used in such a way.
This is just my guess, remember. I never did reach a firm conclusion - and the resulting model looks a touch odd - despite opening discussion on the forum, as you yourself have done ...
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On balance, Jellicoe was probably right.
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... and on a lighter note, I'd like to thank everyone who has taken the time to post pictures of late. I've been meaning to congratulate you all for a while, but the silly season has been exactly that.
One day, when I have improved enormously, I'll summons the courage do to the same. I think they all look fantastic - not to mention that they liven the gaff up a little.
So cheers and thanks.
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One day, when I have improved enormously, I'll summons the courage do to the same. I think they all look fantastic - not to mention that they liven the gaff up a little.
So cheers and thanks.
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On balance, Jellicoe was probably right.
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