Micronaut Only Thread

Luca · Post by **Luca** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:19 pm

I buy the small 18ml bottles. To paint the amount of models I usually paint is enough. It costs â‚¬ 2.75. Since is made in EU its price comprises the VAT. When I replenish my brushes and paint cans and bottles I usually spend around â‚¬ 30, so the wash is roughly a 10% of the "production costs" needed to run my tank factory and ship yard, which is ok for my budget.

I had the biggest ancillary expenses when I rebased all my army with the litko magnetic bases. I spent some $ 400 or more, just in bases in one year! Since then I spent other money on those bases.

If I consider the amount of resources devoted to paint a couple of models, I can almost compare it to the efficency rate of an heavy industry. I need wood support bases, super glue, some 50+ cans of colours of every possible shade (while the most used remain white and black, of which I always keep 2-3 spares), matte varnishes, brushes of all type, dentist's instruments, scalpels. And then reference material of all types, books, prints, downoads from internet, pictures personally taken in various museums (I've been at Bovingnton and Saumur Tank Museums this summer, just to mention the last two).

Consider also the Carrier deck decals. Those are great, how can a modeller now imagine to paint an aircraft carrier without at least trying to use one of them. And this make the cost of the hobby rise.

This apply somehow also to the quick shade. I always tryed to get a nice result on black washes, spending money and time. Now I found an effective and time saving solution.

tstockton · Post by **tstockton** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:02 pm

ExGGFG, Luca,

Thank you for your replies. The videos I saw on You Tube showed the "dip shading" of Warhammer 40K figures only, so I assumed that the "dip method" was the only way of using the washes.

Your comments about brushing it on instead of dipping, as well as how long your supplies have lasted and the comments about making shading much more simple mean that I will most likely be purchasing some of the washes in the near future. In the past, I used both highly-diluted black paint, and the alcohol-India ink methods. I have had pretty good success with both -- but as you've pointed out, using the AP washes have allowed to to have consistant results, which I've not always had with the washes I've used. Anything that would be easier or quicker to use would speed up the painting process (not that I'm usually in any hurry, I've been known to start a project then set it aside for 4-5 years before I've returned to finish it!

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Thank you once again for your replies -- and for sharing pictures of your excellent works!

Regards,
Tom Stockton

sjolly75 H4 · Post by **sjolly75 H4** » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:01 am

Foxbat,

What are you using for your bases? I rarely see clear plastic being used for bases. Thanks!

Steve

foxbat wrote:Luca, seriously, hadn't you told i would not have noticed. And even then, they look awesome. Also this is the 1st time I'm seeing GHQ deck decals, I am impressed.

Now, a few ships of my own, on another ocean though..

Scharnhorst

Happy New Year everybody!

foxbat · Post by **foxbat** » Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:55 am

Hello,
I buy them ready made from Old Dominion GameWorks.

sjolly75 H4 · Post by **sjolly75 H4** » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:50 am

Super! Thanks!

foxbat wrote:Hello,
I buy them ready made from Old Dominion GameWorks.

av8rmongo · Post by **av8rmongo** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:08 pm

My ship(s) have come in! Now to clean the flash, mold lines, assemble, paint and detail...

Donald M. Scheef · Post by **Donald M. Scheef** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:11 am

I just got my first look at the photo for GHQ's new IJN53, CV Hosho. It seems to have a new sprue of aircraft different from any others that GHQ have produced. There are seven identical aircraft, apparently biplanes. Based on the Wikipedia article on Hosho, these are probably Yokosuka B4Y1 "Jean."

It's nice that GHQ have gone to the trouble of producing aircraft that are appropriate for this ship. The B4Y1 had seen combat over China in the late 1930s but by 1941 had been replaced on front-line carriers by the Nakajima B5N1. If you want to do hypothetical earlier conflicts the B4Y1 also flew from Akagi, Kaga, Ryujo, and Soryu. Unfortunately, the appropriate companions (Mitsubishi A5M4 Claude fighter & Aichi D1A Susie dive bomber) and opponents (Grumman F3F, Brewster F2A, Great Lakes BG, Douglas TBD, Vought SB2U) are not available.

Don S.

dragon6 · Post by **dragon6** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:47 pm

Donald M. Scheef wrote:I just got my first look at the photo for GHQ's new IJN53, CV Hosho. It seems to have a new sprue of aircraft different from any others that GHQ have produced. There are seven identical aircraft, apparently biplanes. Based on the Wikipedia article on Hosho, these are probably Yokosuka B4Y1 "Jean."
Don S.

I was going to mention this but Don beat me to it.

As always

Huszar looks nice too

Donald M. Scheef · Post by **Donald M. Scheef** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:58 am

I'm not sure I like the looks of GHQ's Huszar. The foredeck should be a relatively smooth turtle-back - GHQ'a appers to be cluttered with oversize ground tackle. The forward gun and its mount seem badly oversized. The bridge also seems exaggerated. Despite these comments, GHQ's is still by far the best model of this type of early destroyer and I've already ordered my four packs.

Don S.

piersyf · Post by **piersyf** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:35 am

Not that I'm interested in the period, but I thought Huszar's forward gun looked stupidly big and high (like, who'd be a gunner?) so I tried to find a pic...
not that this is accurate, but it is relevant, as it's a pic of a model at 1:700 scale. It shows similar deck clutter on the turtleback and the gun mount is above the coaming of the bridge!
Check it out...
http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/vi ... 6&t=109341

foxbat · Post by **foxbat** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:30 pm

Ships for Coronel, Germans first

Now the British

And, well, since I ordered it just for its good looks, a French semi dreadnought...

TAMMY · Post by **TAMMY** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:01 pm

Foxbat. Very good work and nice ships.

Don the Huszars had a raised bow gun. Note that there is adifference in the stacks height as in some of the class they were higher. See

http://mateinfo.hu/destroyers.pdf

zaevor2000 · Post by **zaevor2000** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:18 am

Absolutely beautiful work on the WW1 ships.

Well done!

Frank

ExGGFG · Post by **ExGGFG** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:08 am

Nice work on those WWI ships! They look great.

tstockton · Post by **tstockton** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:09 pm

foxbat,

VERY nice work on your ship for the Battle of Coronel! In my opinion, the Battle of Coronel and the subsequent Battle of the Falkland Islands is one of the most interesting sagas of World War I. "Knowing" the mindsets of both Von Spee and Craddock adds so much to the story. If you haven't read it, Robert Massie's "Castles of Steel" is well worth the read.

I also like your bases; are those plexiglas with the labels attached underneath? Well done!

TAMMY,

Thank you for pointing out the great .pdf file on the Austro-Hungarian Destroyers of World War I. It's wonderful to be able to have information of that detail at hand!

Regards to all,
Tom Stockton