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I have been asked to write a brief review of GHQ’s recently released GEN24, CB Gneiseneau.
Overall, this is a typical example of GHQ’s recent releases. Some of the details are exaggerated but the molding is crisp. All the dimensions are correct (within the limits of my Vernier calipers).
Although not specified by GHQ, I believe the ship is modeled as it appeared between January of 1941 and April 1942. This includes Operation Berlin and the first several weeks in Brest. My determination is based on the following:
• The model has the “Atlantic bow†fitted and the radio mast has been moved from the upper rangefinder to abaft the tower mast. These modifications were done in 1938.
• I cannot make out whether the radar mattress antenna, fitted to the foretop range finder in October, 1939, is present.
• The catapult has been removed from “C†turret. This was done in February of 1940.
• The 2 cm Flakfierling mount between the funnel and the aircraft hangar is present. This was added in January of 1941.
• The model does NOT have the following modifications that were made in Brest before Operation Cerberus: two triple torpedo tubes, hanger extended and rebuilt to enclose the catapult, Flakfierling mounts added to “B†turret, hanger roof (replacing the one before the catapult), and funnel platform.
The model can be modified fairly easily to match the appearance during the invasion of Norway (April 1940) by removing the Flakfierling mount and associated tower from before the hanger.
In addition to the preceding, adding an aircraft catapult to the roof of turret “C†fairly matches the appearance during the North Atlantic raid of November, 1939 (including the sinking of Rawalpindi).
Modelling the modifications made in Brest before the Channel Run (Operation Cerberus) are significantly more difficult. I think this calls for a new model from GHQ.
Finally, it is almost impossible to modify this model to represent the planned modifications after the return to Germany and bomb damage at Kiel. The twin 15-inch gun mounts could be taken from a Bismarck or Tirpitz. However, the plan included lengthening the bow to improve forward flotation. This definitely requires a new model.
Don S.
Overall, this is a typical example of GHQ’s recent releases. Some of the details are exaggerated but the molding is crisp. All the dimensions are correct (within the limits of my Vernier calipers).
Although not specified by GHQ, I believe the ship is modeled as it appeared between January of 1941 and April 1942. This includes Operation Berlin and the first several weeks in Brest. My determination is based on the following:
• The model has the “Atlantic bow†fitted and the radio mast has been moved from the upper rangefinder to abaft the tower mast. These modifications were done in 1938.
• I cannot make out whether the radar mattress antenna, fitted to the foretop range finder in October, 1939, is present.
• The catapult has been removed from “C†turret. This was done in February of 1940.
• The 2 cm Flakfierling mount between the funnel and the aircraft hangar is present. This was added in January of 1941.
• The model does NOT have the following modifications that were made in Brest before Operation Cerberus: two triple torpedo tubes, hanger extended and rebuilt to enclose the catapult, Flakfierling mounts added to “B†turret, hanger roof (replacing the one before the catapult), and funnel platform.
The model can be modified fairly easily to match the appearance during the invasion of Norway (April 1940) by removing the Flakfierling mount and associated tower from before the hanger.
In addition to the preceding, adding an aircraft catapult to the roof of turret “C†fairly matches the appearance during the North Atlantic raid of November, 1939 (including the sinking of Rawalpindi).
Modelling the modifications made in Brest before the Channel Run (Operation Cerberus) are significantly more difficult. I think this calls for a new model from GHQ.
Finally, it is almost impossible to modify this model to represent the planned modifications after the return to Germany and bomb damage at Kiel. The twin 15-inch gun mounts could be taken from a Bismarck or Tirpitz. However, the plan included lengthening the bow to improve forward flotation. This definitely requires a new model.
Don S.
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Hi Don
Thanks very much for your insight and research on the Gneisenau. It is nice to know which version GHQ has modeled.
Hi Tanner
That is very excellent work on those ships. It is great to see you posting again.
What did you use for the basing material for your models? I do sort of like the rounded edges.
Pete
Thanks very much for your insight and research on the Gneisenau. It is nice to know which version GHQ has modeled.
Hi Tanner
That is very excellent work on those ships. It is great to see you posting again.
What did you use for the basing material for your models? I do sort of like the rounded edges.
Pete
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GHQ Echo DDs
As was reported here some months ago, the GHQ Echo class model is the modification in which Y gun has been removed. I brought 6 packages of this ship before I knew about the modification, so I (finally got around to) looked up which early DDs had this modification. My only source is "Destroyers of World War Two" by M., J. Whitley. I've pretty much limited my search to the D through H classes, on the assumption that the other classes don't fit this DD type.
The only ships I've found that seem to fit the GHQ model are Duncan, Forester, Fame, Garland, and Hotspur, although 2 "A" class and 3 "B" class might fit. (I haven't reviewed their design closely enough to confirm this.) Escapade, Griffin, (and earlier) Fame and Hotspur had both A and Y guns removed, and Garland later had B gun removed. Hero had both B and Y guns removed, but this ship had a different bridge design.
Does anybody else know of other DDs that would fit the modification shown in GHQs Echo model?
The only ships I've found that seem to fit the GHQ model are Duncan, Forester, Fame, Garland, and Hotspur, although 2 "A" class and 3 "B" class might fit. (I haven't reviewed their design closely enough to confirm this.) Escapade, Griffin, (and earlier) Fame and Hotspur had both A and Y guns removed, and Garland later had B gun removed. Hero had both B and Y guns removed, but this ship had a different bridge design.
Does anybody else know of other DDs that would fit the modification shown in GHQs Echo model?
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Without directly answering your question, here is my summary of between-war British destroyers and their modifications. Note specifically my comment following description of the "F" class.
Amazon (D.39): 1924/1925 program: This was a prototype built by Thornycroft intended to form the basis for future destroyer designs. It was basically an enlargement and improvement on the highly successful Modified ‘W’ class.
Length overall: 323â€0’, beam 31’6â€, 1352 tons s.d.
4 x 1 4.7†B.L. Mk I on C.P. Mk VI** (30 degree), 2 x 1 2-pdr AA, 2 x 3 21†TT, six dc, TSDS
Early war modifications, aft bank of TT replaced by 12-pdr (3â€) AA gun; 1942 ‘A’ gun replaced by hedgehog, AW RDF added, DCT & RF replaced by SW RDF, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc rack and two dc throwers, now about 25 dc; 1943 2 x 1 2-pdr replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, forward bank of TT and 3†AA gun removed to allow four additional dc throwers and total of 110 dc; survived to end of war
Ambuscade (D.38): 1924/1925 program: Ambuscade was similar to Amazon but built by Yarrow.
Length overall 322’0â€, beam 31’0â€, 1173 tons s.d.
4 x 1 4.7†B.L. Mk I on C.P. Mk VI** (30 degree), 2 x 1 2-pdr AA, 2 x 3 21†TT, six dc
Early war modifications, aft bank of TT replaced by 12-pdr (3â€) AA gun; 1942 ‘A’ gun replaced by hedgehog, AW RDF added, DCT & RF replaced by SW RDF, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc rack and two dc throwers, now about 25 dc; 1943 prototype squid fitted in place of hedgehog in ‘A’ position, forward bank of TT landed as weight compensation; survived to end of war
A class (Acasta class) 1927 program:
Length overall 323’0â€, beam 32’3â€, 1350 tons s.d.
4 x 1 4.7†QF Mk IX on CP Mk XIV mounts (30-degree elevation), 2 x 1 2-pdr AA, 2 x 4 21†TT, TSDS mine sweeping gear, no anti-submarine weapons; early-war modifications to all ships – aft bank of TT replaced by 1 x 1 12-pdr (3â€) AA gun, TSDS replaced by rack and two throwers for 25 dc
Acasta (H.09): 1940-06-08 near Narvik sunk by naval gunfire (Gneisenau & Scharnhorst)
Achates (H.12): AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel reduced in height to improve sky arcs of 3†AA, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage (total of 2 racks & 6 projectors with 70 dc); later ‘A’ gun replaced by hedgehog, DCT & RF replaced by SW/RDF, 2 x 1 2-pdr replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm; 1942-12-31 in Barents Sea sunk by naval gunfire (Admiral Hipper)
Acheron (H.45): 1940-12-17 off Isle of Wight sunk by mine
Active (H.14): AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel reduced in height to improve sky arcs of 3†AA, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage(total of 2 racks & 6 projectors with 70 dc); later ‘B’ gun replaced by hedgehog and 2 x 1 6-pdr, DCT & RF replaced by SW/RDF, 2 x 1 2-pdr AA replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm; survived to end of war
Antelope (H.36): AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel reduced in height to improve sky arcs of 3†AA, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage(total of 2 racks & 6 projectors with 70 dc); later ‘B’ gun replaced by hedgehog and 2 x 1 6-pdr, pdr, DCT & RF replaced by SW/RDF, 2 x 1 2-pdr AA replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, 3†AA gun removed to increase total number of dc to 110; survived to end of war
Anthony (H.40): AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel reduced in height to improve sky arcs of 3†AA, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage(total of 2 racks & 6 projectors with 70 dc); later ‘B’ gun replaced by hedgehog and 2 x 1 6-pdr, DCT & RF replaced by SW/RDF, 2 x 1 2-pdr AA replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm; survived to end of war
Ardent (H.41): 1940-06-08 near Narvik sunk by naval gunfire (Gneisenau & Scharnhorst)
Arrow (H.42): AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel reduced in height to improve sky arcs of 3†AA, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage (total of 2 racks & 6 projectors with 70 dc); later ‘B’ gun replaced by hedgehog and 2 x 1 6-pdr, pdr, DCT & RF replaced by SW/RDF, 2 x 1 2-pdr AA replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm; 1943-08-04 at Algiers constructive total loss due to mercantile explosion
A class leader – Codrington (D.65)
Length overall 343’0â€, beam 33’9â€, 1540 tons s.d.
5 x 1 4.7†(initially QF Mk VII with ‘B’ gun in a 60-degree mount; all changed to QF Mk IX, all in 30-degree mount pre-war, 2 x 1 2-pdr AA, 2 x 4 21†TT
Aft bank of TT replaced by 1 x 1 12-pdr (3â€) AA gun; 1940-07-27 in Dover harbor sunk by aircraft bombs
Canadian Thornycroft type – similar to A class
Length overall 321’0â€, beam 32’6â€, 1337 tons s.d.
4 x 1 4.7†QF Mk IX on CP Mk XIV mounts (30-degree elevation), 2 x 1 2-pdr AA, 2 x 4 21†TT, one rack and two throwers for 25 dc
Saguenay (I.79): AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel reduced in height, aft bank of TT replaced by 12-pdr AA gun, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage; 1942-11 severely damaged by collision with merchant, only partially repaired and relegated to training
Skeena (I.59): AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel reduced in height, aft bank of TT replaced by 12-pdr AA gun, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage; 1944-10-25 wrecked off Hvalfjord, Iceland
B class (Beagle class) 1928 program
Length overall 323’0â€, beam 32’3â€, 1360 tons s.d.
4 x 1 4.7†QF Mk IX on CP Mk XIV mounts (30-degree elevation), 2 x 1 2-pdr AA, 2 x 4 21†TT, one rack and two throwers for 25 dc
Basilisk (H.11): 1940-06-01 off Dunkirk sunk by aircraft bombs
Beagle (H.30): AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel lowered, aft bank of TT replaced by 12-pdr AA gun, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage; later “A†gun replaced by hedgehog, DCT & RF replaced by SW/RDF, 12-pdr AA replaced by additional dc storage; survived to end of war
Blanche (H.47): 1939-11-13 in Thames estuary sunk by mine
Boadicea (H.65): AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel lowered, aft bank of TT replaced by 12-pdr AA gun, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage; 1944-06-13 off Portland sunk by aircraft torpedo
Boreas (H.77): AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel lowered, aft bank of TT replaced by 12-pdr AA gun, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage; 1944 transferred to Greek navy as Salamis
Brazen (H.80): 1940-07-20 off Dover sunk by aircraft bombs
Brilliant (H.84): AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel lowered, aft bank of TT replaced by 12-pdr AA gun, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage; later DCT & RF replaced by SW/RDF, 2 x 1 2-pdr replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, 2 x 1 20 mm added at searchlight platform; survived to end of war
Bulldog (H.91): pre-war tested a 60-degree mount (CP Mk XIII) in ‘B’ position but this was unsuccessful and was replaced by the standard 30-degree mount; AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel lowered, aft bank of TT replaced by 12-pdr AA gun, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage, later “A†gun replaced by hedgehog, DCT & RF replaced by SW/RDF, 2 x 1 20 mm added at searchlight platform, 12-pdr AA replaced by additional dc storage; survived to end of war
B class leader – Keith (D.06)
Length overall 323’0â€, beam 32’3â€, 1360 tons s.d.
4 x 1 4.7†QF Mk IX on CP Mk XIV mounts (30-degree elevation), 2 x 1 2-pdr AA, 2 x 4 21†TT, one rack and two throwers for 25 dc
1940-06-01 off Dunkirk sunk by aircraft bombs
C class (Crusader class) 1929 program: Note: For political reasons, this class was limited to four destroyers plus a leader. This produced a group of five ships that did not fit into any standard role within the RN, so they were transferred to Canada in 1937/1938. Note: This class had a unique bridge design with the compass platform/wheelhouse separated from the chartroom/director tower by an open gap.
Length overall: 329’ 0â€, beam 33’ 0â€, 1375 tons s.d. (Note: larger than previous destroyers to obtain greater range and allow mounting 3†AA gun)
4 x 1 4.7†Mk. IX on C.P. XIV (30 degree) mounting, superimposed fore and aft, 1 x 1 3†Q.F. H.A. II on H.A. III mounting between funnels (probably the worst possible place for an anti-aircraft gun), 2 x 1 2-pdr pom-pom at the aft end of the fo’c’sle, 2 x 4 21†torpedo tubes Q.R. III, fitted for two-speed destroyer sweep (TSDS, mine sweeping gear), six depth charges; For all ships, the 3†AA gun was removed in 1936 and the 2-pdrs moved back to the same frame. This actually was an improvement because the 3†would have been ineffective and moving the 2-pdrs gave them better coverage.
Crusader (H.60): became Ottawa in Canadian service; 1940 modified for escort service – 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, 2 x 5 0.5†mg replaced 2 x 1 2-pdr, AW/RDF added, 3†AA replaced aft bank of TT, aft funnel reduced in height, ‘Y’ gun mount replaced with additional depth charges; sunk 1942-09-14 by submarine torpedo in NW Atlantic
Comet (H.00): became Restigouche in Canadian service; 1940 modified for escort service – 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, 2 x 5 0.5†mg replaced 2 x 1 2-pdr, AW/RDF added, 3†AA (some sources say 4â€) replaced aft bank of TT, aft funnel reduced in height, ‘Y’ gun mount replaced with additional depth charge racks and dc throwers; 1942 – ‘B’ gun mount replaced by hedgehog and 2 x 1 6-pdr, DCT & RF replaced by SW RDF, 2 x 4 0.5†replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, additional 2 x 1 20 mm added, 3†(or 4â€) AA gun removed in favor of additional depth charge throwers; survived to end of war
Crescent (H.48): became Fraser in Canadian service; 1940 modified for escort service – 2 x 5 0.5†mg replaced 2 x 1 2-pdr, 3†AA replaced aft bank of TT; sank 1940-06-20 due to collision with cruiser Calcutta
Cygnet (H.83): became St. Laurent in Canadian service; 1940 modified for escort service – 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, 2 x 5 0.5†mg replaced 2 x 1 2-pdr, AW/RDF added, 3†AA replaced aft bank of TT, aft funnel reduced in height, ‘Y’ gun mount replaced with additional depth charges; survived to end of war
C class leader – Kempenfelt (D.18): through 1939 size, armament, and appearance same as C class destroyers except 1390 ton s.d. and carried additional boat; temporarily had prototype 5.1†gun in ‘B’ mount, but this gun design was not adapted by the RN and the gun was made 4.7†to match others; became Assiniboine (I.18) in Canadian service; 1940 converted for escort work – aft bank of TT replaced by 3†AA gun, aft funnel reduced in height, 2 x 4 0.5†mg replaced 2 x 1 2-pdr; later (1941?) ‘Y’ mount gun replaced by additional depth charge racks & throwers; (1942?) 3†AA moved to ‘X’ position and additional depth charges added; (1943?) split hedgehog added by ‘A’ mount, 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5†mg, additional 2 x 1 20 fitted, AW RDF fitted, and SW RDF replaced DCT & RF; survived to end of war
D class (Defender class) 1930 program: repeat of C class design except bridge not split, most received 2 x 4 0.5†mg in place of 2 x 1 2-pdr from the start, and more depth charges in place of TSDS:
Length overall: 329’ 0â€, beam 33’ 0â€, 1375 tons s.d.
4 x 1 4.7†Mk. IX on C.P. XIV (30 degree) mounting, superimposed fore and aft, 1 x 1 3†Q.F. H.A. II on H.A. III mounting between funnels (probably the worst possible place for an anti-aircraft gun), 2 x 4 0.5†mg at the aft end of the fo’c’sle, 2 x 4 21†torpedo tubes Q.R. III, 1 depth charge rack and 2 dc throwers with 20 dc. For all ships, the 3†AA gun was removed in 1936 and the 2 x 4 0.5†mg moved back to the same frame.
Dainty (H.53): 1940 modified for escort duty (AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5†mg, aft bank of TT replaced by 3†AA gun and aft funnel shortened); sunk by aircraft bombs in Tobruk harbor 1941-02-24
Daring (H.16): sunk by submarine torpedo in Home Waters 1940-02-18, probably before any significant wartime modifications
Decoy (H.75): 1940 modified for escort duty (AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5†mg, aft bank of TT replaced by 3†AA gun and aft funnel shortened); 1943 to Canada as Kootenay; ‘B’ gun replaced by hedgehog and 2 x 1 6-pdr, DCT & RF replaced by SW RDF, 2-pdrs replaced by 20 mm, ‘Y’ gun mount removed for additional depth charges.
Defender (H.07): 1940 modified for escort duty (AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5†mg, aft bank of TT replaced by 3†AA gun and aft funnel shortened); sunk by aircraft bombs in Mediterranean 1941-07-11
Delight (H.38): uncertain which modifications (if any) had been made; sunk by aircraft bombs in English Channel 1940-07-24
Diamond (H.22): 1940 modified for escort duty (AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5†mg, aft bank of TT replaced by 3†AA gun and aft funnel shortened); sunk by aircraft bombs in Mediterranean 1941-04-27
Diana (H.49): 1940 modified for escort duty (AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5†mg, aft bank of TT replaced by 3†AA gun and aft funnel shortened); transferred to Canada as Margaree; sunk by collision with merchant vessel in North Atlantic 1940-10-22
Duchess (H.64): sunk by collision with HMS Barham 1939-12-12
D class leader – Duncan (D.99): through 1939 size, armament, and appearance same as D class destroyers except 1390 ton s.d.; 1940 modified for escort duty (AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5†mg, aft bank of TT replaced by 3†AA gun and aft funnel shortened); later, ‘A’ gun mount replaced by hedgehog, DCT & RF replaced by SW RDF, 2 x 4 .50†replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, additional 2 x 1 20 mm added, 3†AA gun and ‘Y’ gun mount replaced with additional depth charge throwers and dc storage; survived to end of war
E class (Eclipse class) 1931 program:
Length overall: 329’ 0â€, beam 33’ 3â€, 1405 tons s.d.
4 x 1 4.7†Mk. IX on C.P. XVII (40 degree) mounting, superimposed fore and aft, 2 x 4 0.5†machine guns, 2 x 4 21†torpedo tubes (Q.R. Mk. VI)
Echo (H.23): standard modifications; survived to end of war
Eclipse (H.08): standard modifications; damaged by bomb 1940-04 & temporarily abandoned but towed to port and repaired; sunk by mine in Eastern Mediterranean 1943-10-24
Escapade (H.17): standard modifications; converted to escort in 1943 (hedgehog replaced ‘A’ gun, 4 depth charge throwers replaced 3†gun and ‘Y’ mount), in 1945 double squid replaced hedgehog; survived to end of war
Escort (H.66): standard modifications may have been made before loss, but uncertain; sunk by submarine torpedo 1940-07-11 in Western Mediterranean
Electra (H.27): standard modifications; sunk by Japanese gunfire and torpedoes 1942-02
Encounter (H.10): standard modifications; sunk by Japanese gunfire and torpedoes 1942-03
Esk (H.15): completed as minelayer (when carrying mines, no guns in ‘A’ and ‘Y’ locations, no torpedoes, up to 60 Mk. XIVA mines); sunk 1940-08-31 by mine
Express (H.61): completed as minelayer (as Esk); severely damaged by mine 1940-08-31, under repair for > 12 months; emerged with 4.7†gun in ‘A’ position, 2 x 6 pdr (57 mm) plus hedgehog in ‘B’ position, 3†AA in aft torpedo tube location, 4.7†gun in ‘X’ position, and depth charge throwers & racks in place of mine laying gear; transferred to Canada as RCN Gatineau.
“standard modifications†(performed mid- to late-1940, depending on when ship happened to be in port for maintenance or repair) = 12 pdr (3â€) antiaircraft gun replaced aft bank of torpedo tubes, aft funnel shortened and mainmast removed, 2 x 1 20 mm Oerlikon automatic cannon replaced quadruple 0.5†machine guns, additional 2 x 1 20 mm added in most cases, and aircraft warning radar added. Strangely, I can not find any ships in this class that retained ‘A,’ ‘B,’ and ‘X’ gun mounts but landed the ‘Y’ mount in favor of additional anti-submarine weapons (as in GHQ’s UKN39, E class) Update: I have found a picture of Express from 1942 (in the Wikipedia article) in which she appears to have 4.7†gun mounts in ‘A,’ ‘B,’ and ‘X’ positions (but not in ‘Y’ position). However, this may not match the appearance of UKN39 because it also seems to show two banks of torpedoes. The resolution of the picture is not adequate for me to be sure.
E class leader – Exmouth
Length overall: 343’ 0â€, beam 33’ 9â€, 1495 tons s.d.
5 x 1 4.7†Mk. IX on C.P. XVII (40 degree) mounting, superimposed fore and aft plus one between funnels, 2 x 4 0.5†machine guns at wings of signal bridge, 2 x 4 21†torpedo tubes (Q.R. Mk. VI)
Probably no modifications before being sunk 1940-01-21 by submarine torpedo in home waters
F class (Fearless class) 1932 program: Repeat E class
Length overall: 329’ 0â€, beam 33’ 3â€, 1405 tons s.d.
4 x 1 4,7†Mk. IX on C.P. XVII (40 degree) mounting, superimposed fore and aft, 2 x 4 0.5†machine guns, 2 x 4 21†torpedo tubes (Q.R. Mk. VI)
Fame (H.78): standard modifications; in 1941 radar replaced director control tower (DCT) & rangefinder (RF), hedgehog replaced ‘A’ mount, and ‘Y’ mount replaced by additional depth charge racks & throwers; in 1943 ‘A’ mount restored, initial hedgehog replaced by split hedgehog, and 3†AA replaced by additional 20 mm (total of 6 x 1 at this time); survived to end of war
Fearless (H.67): standard modifications; in 1941 ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional depth charge racks & throwers; sunk by aircraft torpedo in Mediterranean 1941-07
Firedrake (H.79): standard modifications; ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional depth charge racks & throwers; severely damaged by aircraft bombs in Mediterranean 1941-07; repaired in US; sunk by submarine torpedo in North Atlantic 1942-12
Forester (H.74): standard modifications; in 1941 ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional depth charge racks & throwers; in 1943 split hedgehog added forward and short-wave radio direction finder (SWRDF) replaced DCT & RF; survived to end of war
Foresight (H.68): standard modifications; sunk by aircraft torpedo in Mediterranean 1942-08
Fortune (H.70): standard modifications; in 1941 ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional depth charge racks & throwers; in 1943 split hedgehog added forward and short-wave radio direction finder (SWRDF) replaced DCT & RF; transferred to Canada 1943-06;survived to end of war
Foxhound (H.69): standard modifications; in 1941 ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional depth charge racks & throwers; in 1943 split hedgehog added forward and short-wave radio direction finder (SWRDF) replaced DCT & RF; transferred to Canada 1943-06; survived to end of war
Fury (H.76): standard modifications; damaged by mine off Normandy 1944-06, grounded and constructive total loss
“standard modifications†essentially the same as for E class, except that F class tended to retain quad mount 0.5†machine guns longer. It seems that GHQ’s UKN39 is a better match to ~ 1941 F class than it is to E class.
F class leader – Faulknor – initially same as Exmouth
Length overall: 343’ 0â€, beam 33’ 9â€, 1495 tons s.d.
5 x 1 4.7†Mk. IX on C.P. XVII (40 degree) mounting, superimposed fore and aft plus one between funnels, 2 x 4 0.5†machine guns, 2 x 4 21†torpedo tubes (Q.R. Mk. VI)
1941-01, 3†AA replaced aft bank of TT; 1942-01, high-angle radio-direction (HA/RD) replaced DCT & RF and aft funnel reduced in height; 1943-01, 3†AA moved to ‘X’ position (some say now 4†AA), aft bank of TT reinstalled, 4 x 1 20 mm added (one pair replacing 0.5â€, other pair on after deck house); 1945-01, ‘Q’ mount 4.7†replaced by quad 2 pdr pom-pom and 2 x 2 20 mm added; survived to end of war
G class (Greyhound class) 1933 program
Length overall: 323’ 0â€, beam 33’ 3â€, 1350 tons s.d. Note that the G class is smaller than the preceding classes. This was due to an improvement in power plant design. In most countries, this would have been used to improve the performance (power, range, habitability, and/or space for weapons). The British government decided to reduce the size of the ships as an economy measure. Of course, the cost of re-designing the hull more than offset any savings in materials and there was less room for weapons when the war came around.
4 x 1 4.7†Mk. IX on C.P. XVII (40 degree) mounting, superimposed fore and aft, 2 x 4 0.5†machine guns, 2 x 4 21†torpedo tubes (Q.R. Mk. VI) (except Glowworm, described below), one rack and two dc throwers, 20 depth charges, TSDS
Gallant (H.59): standard modifications; 1941-01-10 mined in Mediterranean, beached at Malta and expended as blockship
Garland (H.37): standard modifications; 1940 transferred to Polish Navy under same name; 1941 ‘Y’ gun landed for additional dc throwers & storage, 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5â€, additional 2 x 1 20 added to bridge wings; 1942 ‘B’ gun replaced by hedgehog, additional 2 x 1 20 mm added to searchlight platform.
Gipsy (H.63): 1939-11-21 sunk by mine in home waters
Glowworm (H.92): built with 2 x 5 21†TT P.R. Mk. I; 1940-04-07 sunk by naval gunfire (German destroyers and cruiser Admiral Hipper)
Grafton (H.89): 1940-05-29 severely damaged by submarine torpedo off Dunkirk, abandoned and sunk
Grenade (H.86) 1940-05-29 sunk by aircraft bombs off Dunkirk
Greyhound (H.31): standard modifications; 1941 ‘Y’ gun removed for additional dc throwers and storage, 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5â€, additional 2 x 1 20 mm in bridge wings; 1943 ‘A’ gun replaced by hedgehog, DCT & RF replaced by SW RDF, 3†AA removed for additional dc storage, additional 2 x 1 20 mm on searchlight platform, transferred to Canada as Ottawa (ii)
“standard modifications†(performed mid- to late-1940, depending on when ship happened to be in port for maintenance or repair) = 12 pdr (3â€) antiaircraft gun replaced aft bank of torpedo tubes, aft funnel shortened and mainmast removed, and aircraft warning radar added.
G class leader – Grenville (H.03): similar to Faulknor except for length
Length overall: 330’ 0â€, beam 34’ 6â€, 1465 tons s.d.
5 x 1 4.7†Mk. IX on C.P. XVII (40 degree) mounting, superimposed fore and aft plus one between funnels, 2 x 4 0.5†machine guns, 2 x 4 21†torpedo tubes (Q.R. Mk. VI)
1940-01-19 sunk by mine in North Sea
H class (Hero class) 1934 program
Length overall: 323’ 0â€, beam 33’ 0â€, 1340 tons s.d.
4 x 1 4.7†Mk. IX on C.P. XVII (40 degree) mounting (except Hereward as described below), superimposed fore and aft, 2 x 4 0.5†machine guns, 2 x 4 21†torpedo tubes (Q.R. Mk. VI)
Hasty (H.24): standard modifications; 1940 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5â€, additional 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings; 1942-06-15 sunk by MTB torpedo in eastern Mediterranean
Havock (H.43):standard modifications; 1940 2 x 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5â€, 2 x 20 mm added to bridge wings; 1942-04 damaged by air attack, grounded beyond recovery on French coast en-route from Malta to Gibralter
Hereward (H.93): completed with twin 4.7†C.P. mounting Mk. XVIII in ‘B’ position (some written accounts imply that this was in addition to a single mount in ‘A’ position, but the only photograph I have found clearly show nothing in the ‘A’ position), revised bridge to provide helmsman line of sight above the mount, and higher funnels (possibly to keep exhaust from the bridge?); 1937 twin mount removed from ‘B’ position and single 4.7†mounts placed in ‘A’ and ‘B’ positions; standard modifications; 1940 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5â€, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings; 1941-05-29 sunk by aircraft torpedo off Crete
Hero (H.99): completed with same bridge as Hereward, but not twin gun mount; standard modifications; 1940 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5â€, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings; 1943 ‘A’ gun replaced by hedgehog and 2 x 1 6-pdr, DCT and RF replaced by SW RDF, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage, transferred to Canada as Chaudiere; survived to end of war
Hostile (H.55): 1940 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5â€; 1940-08-23 sunk by mine
Hotspur (H.01): standard modifications; 1940 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5â€, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings; 1943 ‘A’ gun replaced by hedgehog, DCT & RF replaced by SW RDF, 3†AA gun removed for additional dc storage and 2 x 1 20 mm added; survived to end of war
Hunter (H.35): 1940-04-10 sunk by naval gunfire and collision at Narvik
Hyperion (H.97): standard modifications; 1940 2 x 4 0.5†replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm; 1940-12-22 sunk by submarine torpedo in Mediterranean
“standard modifications†(performed mid- to late-1940, depending on when ship happened to be in port for maintenance or repair) = 12 pdr (3â€) antiaircraft gun replaced aft bank of torpedo tubes, aft funnel shortened and mainmast removed, and aircraft warning radar added.
H class leader – Hardy (H.87): Similar to Grenville except for tripod foremast
Length overall: 330’ 0â€, beam 34’ 0â€, 1455 tons s.d.
5 x 1 4.7†Mk. IX on C.P. XVII (40 degree) mounting, superimposed fore and aft plus one between funnels, 2 x 4 0.5†machine guns, 2 x 4 21†torpedo tubes (Q.R. Mk. VI)
1940-04-10 severely damaged by naval gunfire of German destroyers at Narvik, beached, abandoned, and capsized
Ex-Brazilian Juruena class – built in British yards for Brazil but taken over (purchased) by UK; essentially repeats of the H class except lower funnels and armament as described below
Length overall: 323’ 0â€, beam 33’ 0â€, 1340 tons s.d.
3 x 1 4.7†Mk. IX on C.P. XVII (40 degree) mounting (‘A’ ‘B’ and ‘X’ mountings; ‘Y’ position used for additional anti-submarine weapons), superimposed fore and aft, combined DCT and RF [except Havant, Hesperus, Havelock, and Highlander as described below], 2 x 1 20 mm automatic cannon, 2 x 4 21†torpedo tubes (Q.R. Mk. VI) [except Havant, Hesperus, Havelock, and Highlander as described below], 2 racks & 4 projectors for 110 depth charges
Harvester (H.19) [intended to be Brazilian Jurua, initially named Handy in British service but changed 1940-02-27 to avoid confusion with Hardy): entered service with rudimentary rangefinder instead of combined DCT/RF and with no torpedo tubes; when available, combined DCT/RF fitted, forward bank of TT installed, 3†AA gun in place of aft TTs, AW/RDF fitted, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings; 1943-03-11 sunk by submarine torpedo in North Atlantic
Havant (H.32) [intended to be Brazilian Javary]: entered service with rudimentary rangefinder instead of combined DCT/RF and with no torpedo tubes; received both banks of TT; 1940-06-01 severely damaged by aircraft bombs off Dunkirk, abandoned and intentionally sunk
Havelock (H.88) [intended to be Brazilian Jutahy]: entered service with rudimentary rangefinder instead of combined DCT/RF and with no torpedo tubes; when available, combined DCT/RF fitted, forward bank of TT installed, 3†AA gun in place of aft TTs, AW/RDF fitted, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings; later ‘A’ gun replaced by hedgehog, DCT/RF replaced by SW/RDF, 3†AA gun removed for additional dc storage; survived to end of war
Hesperus (H.57) [intended to be Brazilian Juruena, initially named Hearty in British service but changed 1940-02-27 to avoid confusion with Hardy, informally referred to as ‘Heinz’ because of pennant number): entered service with rudimentary rangefinder instead of combined DCT/RF and with no torpedo tubes; when available, combined DCT/RF fitted, forward bank of TT installed, 3†AA gun in place of aft TTs, AW/RDF fitted, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings; later ‘A’ gun replaced by hedgehog, DCT/RF replaced by SW/RDF, 3†AA gun removed for additional dc storage; survived to end of war
Highlander (H.44) [intended to be Brazilian Jaguaribe]: entered service with rudimentary rangefinder instead of combined DCT/RF and with no torpedo tubes; when available, combined DCT/RF fitted, forward bank of TT installed, 3†AA gun in place of aft TTs, AW/RDF fitted, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings; later ‘A’ gun replaced by hedgehog, DCT/RF replaced by SW/RDF, 3†AA gun removed for additional dc storage; survived to end of war
Hurricane (H.06) [intended to be Brazilian Japarua]: early 1940 AW/RDF fitted, aft bank of TT replaced by 3†AA gun, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings; 1941-01-07 bombed and sunk in Liverpool, raised and returned to service in 1943-01; 1943-12-24 sunk off Azores by submarine torpedo
I class (Intrepid class) 1935 program
Length overall: 323’ 0â€, beam 33’ 0â€, 1370 tons s.d.
4 x 1 4.7†Q.F. Mk. IX on C.P. XVIII (40 degree) mounting, superimposed fore and aft, 2 x 4 0.5†machine guns, 2 x 5 21†torpedo tubes (P.R. Mk. I), 2 racks & 2 projectors for 16 dc, TSDS, all capable of carrying mines (Note: All of the destroyers had the angled bridge introduced by Hereward. There was no raised casing over the engine room – this was to counteract the extra weight of the fifth tube in each torpedo mount)
Icarus (D.03): early in war served as minelayer (no 4.7†guns in ‘A’ or ‘Y’ position, no TT, up to 60 mines carried), then as destroyer (‘A’ and ‘Y’ guns restored, forward bank of TT restored but with center tube empty, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, AW/RDF and HF/DF fitted, 2 x 4 0.5†replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, aft funnel reduced in height, 3†AA gun in place of after TT, by 1944 hedgehog replaced ‘A’ gun, ‘Y’ gun and 3†AA landed, 2 x 1 20 mm added, now 2 racks and 6 projectors for 110 mines; survived to end of war
Ilex (D.61): early modifications – 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel reduced in height, aft TT mount replaced by 3†AA gun; 1941-06 in Mediterranean severely damaged by aircraft bombs, under repair in US until 1943-02 with AW RDF added, 2 x 4 0.5†replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, center tube of remaining TT mount removed to reduce topweight; by 1944 ‘Y’ gun landed, 3†gun landed, 2 x 1 20 mm added, now 2 racks and 6 projectors for 110 dc; survived to end of war
Imogen (D.44): 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel reduced in height, aft TT mount replaced by 3†AA gun; 1940-07-06 off Scottish coast collided with cruiser Glasgow, caught fire and abandoned
Imperial (D.09): 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel reduced in height, aft TT mount replaced by 3†AA gun; 1940-10-11 in Mediterranean severely damaged by mine, six under repair; 1941-05-29 severely damaged by aircraft bomb near miss, abandoned and intentionally sunk
Impulsive (D.11): early in war served as minelayer (no 4.7†guns in ‘A’ or ‘Y’ position, no TT, up to 60 mines carried), then as destroyer (‘A’ and ‘Y’ guns restored, forward bank of TT restored but with center tube empty, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, AW/RDF and HF/DF fitted, 2 x 4 0.5†replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, aft funnel reduced in height, 3†AA gun in place of after TT, by 1944 ‘B’ gun replaced by hedgehog and 2 x 1 6 pdr, ‘Y’ gun and 3†AA landed, 2 x 1 20 mm added, now 2 racks and 6 projectors for 110 mines; survived to end of war
Intrepid (D.10): early in war served as minelayer (no 4.7†guns in ‘A’ or ‘Y’ position, no TT, up to 60 mines carried), then as destroyer (‘A’ and ‘Y’ guns restored, forward bank of TT restored but with center tube empty, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, AW/RDF and HF/DF fitted, 2 x 4 0.5†replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, aft funnel reduced in height, 3†AA gun in place of after TT; later ‘B’ gun replaced by hedgehog and 2 x 1 6 pdr, ‘Y’ gun and 3†AA landed, 2 x 1 20 mm added, now 2 racks and 6 projectors for 110 mines; 1943-07-27 in Mediterranean sunk by aircraft bombs
Isis (D.87): early modifications – 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel reduced in height, aft TT mount replaced by 3†AA gun; 1941-06 in Mediterranean severely damaged by aircraft bombs, sent to Singapore for repairs; at time of Japanese invasion towed to Java, Colombo, and finally Bombay for completion of repairs; AW RDF added, 2 x 4 0.5†replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, center tube of remaining TT mount removed to reduce topweight; later ‘B’ gun replaced by hedgehog, ‘Y’ gun and 3†AA landed, 2 x 1 20 mm added, now 2 racks and 6 projectors for 110 mines; 1944-07-20 off Normandy sunk by miniature submarine torpedo
Ivanhoe (D.16): early in war served as minelayer (no 4.7†guns in ‘A’ or ‘Y’ position, no TT, up to 60 mines carried); in this configuration 1940-09-01 in North Sea severely damaged by mine, subsequently additional damage by aircraft bombs, finally abandoned and intentionally sunk
I class leader – Inglefield (D.02): Similar to Hardy except for pentad torpedo tube mounts. Note: Inglefield had the older style bridge, different from all other I class destroyers.
Length overall: 337’ 0â€, beam 34’ 0â€, 1544 tons s.d.
5 x 1 4.7†Mk. IX on C.P. XVIII (40 degree) mounting, superimposed fore and aft plus one between funnels, 2 x 4 0.5†machine guns, 2 x 5 21†torpedo tubes (P.R. Mk. I)
early modifications – aft funnel reduced in height, aft TT mount replaced by 3†AA gun, 2 x 1 20 mm added to aft deck house; 1942 AW RDF added, 2 x 4 0.5†replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, 3†AA moved to ‘X’ position and aft bank of TT restored (but with center tube removed from both banks); 1944-02-25 off Anzio sunk by guided bomb
Ex-Turkish Demirhisar class – built in British yards for Turkey but two taken over (purchased) by UK; essentially repeats of the I class except as described below (Considering the desperate need for ships of this type and Turkish antipathy towards British interests, it is surprising that the other two were delivered to the intended customer. The British ships did not enter service until well after the start of the war.)
Length overall: 323’ 0â€, beam 33’ 0â€, 1370 tons s.d.
4 x 1 4.7†Q.F. Mk. IX on C.P. XVIII (40 degree) mounting, superimposed fore and aft, 2 x 4 0.5†mg, 2 x 4 21†torpedo tubes (Q.R. Mk. VI), 2 racks & 2 projectors for 16 dc
Inconstant (H.49) [ex-Turkish Mauavenet]: 1942 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, 2 x 4 0.5†replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, aft bank of TT replaced by 1 x 1 3†AA gun; 1943 converted for escort duty, AW/RDF fitted, DCT/RF replaced by SW/RDF, 2 x 1 20 mm added on searchlight platform, 3†AA gun and ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc projectors and dc storage; survived to end of war at which time she was refurbished and retroceded to Turkey as Mauavenet
Ithuriel (H.05) [ex-Turkish Gayret]: 1942 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, 2 x 4 0.5†replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, aft bank of TT replaced by 1 x 1 3†AA gun;1942-11-28 in Mediterranean constructive total loss due to aircraft bombs, guns landed for coastal defense and hull scrapped post-war
Amazon (D.39): 1924/1925 program: This was a prototype built by Thornycroft intended to form the basis for future destroyer designs. It was basically an enlargement and improvement on the highly successful Modified ‘W’ class.
Length overall: 323â€0’, beam 31’6â€, 1352 tons s.d.
4 x 1 4.7†B.L. Mk I on C.P. Mk VI** (30 degree), 2 x 1 2-pdr AA, 2 x 3 21†TT, six dc, TSDS
Early war modifications, aft bank of TT replaced by 12-pdr (3â€) AA gun; 1942 ‘A’ gun replaced by hedgehog, AW RDF added, DCT & RF replaced by SW RDF, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc rack and two dc throwers, now about 25 dc; 1943 2 x 1 2-pdr replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, forward bank of TT and 3†AA gun removed to allow four additional dc throwers and total of 110 dc; survived to end of war
Ambuscade (D.38): 1924/1925 program: Ambuscade was similar to Amazon but built by Yarrow.
Length overall 322’0â€, beam 31’0â€, 1173 tons s.d.
4 x 1 4.7†B.L. Mk I on C.P. Mk VI** (30 degree), 2 x 1 2-pdr AA, 2 x 3 21†TT, six dc
Early war modifications, aft bank of TT replaced by 12-pdr (3â€) AA gun; 1942 ‘A’ gun replaced by hedgehog, AW RDF added, DCT & RF replaced by SW RDF, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc rack and two dc throwers, now about 25 dc; 1943 prototype squid fitted in place of hedgehog in ‘A’ position, forward bank of TT landed as weight compensation; survived to end of war
A class (Acasta class) 1927 program:
Length overall 323’0â€, beam 32’3â€, 1350 tons s.d.
4 x 1 4.7†QF Mk IX on CP Mk XIV mounts (30-degree elevation), 2 x 1 2-pdr AA, 2 x 4 21†TT, TSDS mine sweeping gear, no anti-submarine weapons; early-war modifications to all ships – aft bank of TT replaced by 1 x 1 12-pdr (3â€) AA gun, TSDS replaced by rack and two throwers for 25 dc
Acasta (H.09): 1940-06-08 near Narvik sunk by naval gunfire (Gneisenau & Scharnhorst)
Achates (H.12): AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel reduced in height to improve sky arcs of 3†AA, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage (total of 2 racks & 6 projectors with 70 dc); later ‘A’ gun replaced by hedgehog, DCT & RF replaced by SW/RDF, 2 x 1 2-pdr replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm; 1942-12-31 in Barents Sea sunk by naval gunfire (Admiral Hipper)
Acheron (H.45): 1940-12-17 off Isle of Wight sunk by mine
Active (H.14): AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel reduced in height to improve sky arcs of 3†AA, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage(total of 2 racks & 6 projectors with 70 dc); later ‘B’ gun replaced by hedgehog and 2 x 1 6-pdr, DCT & RF replaced by SW/RDF, 2 x 1 2-pdr AA replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm; survived to end of war
Antelope (H.36): AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel reduced in height to improve sky arcs of 3†AA, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage(total of 2 racks & 6 projectors with 70 dc); later ‘B’ gun replaced by hedgehog and 2 x 1 6-pdr, pdr, DCT & RF replaced by SW/RDF, 2 x 1 2-pdr AA replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, 3†AA gun removed to increase total number of dc to 110; survived to end of war
Anthony (H.40): AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel reduced in height to improve sky arcs of 3†AA, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage(total of 2 racks & 6 projectors with 70 dc); later ‘B’ gun replaced by hedgehog and 2 x 1 6-pdr, DCT & RF replaced by SW/RDF, 2 x 1 2-pdr AA replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm; survived to end of war
Ardent (H.41): 1940-06-08 near Narvik sunk by naval gunfire (Gneisenau & Scharnhorst)
Arrow (H.42): AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel reduced in height to improve sky arcs of 3†AA, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage (total of 2 racks & 6 projectors with 70 dc); later ‘B’ gun replaced by hedgehog and 2 x 1 6-pdr, pdr, DCT & RF replaced by SW/RDF, 2 x 1 2-pdr AA replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm; 1943-08-04 at Algiers constructive total loss due to mercantile explosion
A class leader – Codrington (D.65)
Length overall 343’0â€, beam 33’9â€, 1540 tons s.d.
5 x 1 4.7†(initially QF Mk VII with ‘B’ gun in a 60-degree mount; all changed to QF Mk IX, all in 30-degree mount pre-war, 2 x 1 2-pdr AA, 2 x 4 21†TT
Aft bank of TT replaced by 1 x 1 12-pdr (3â€) AA gun; 1940-07-27 in Dover harbor sunk by aircraft bombs
Canadian Thornycroft type – similar to A class
Length overall 321’0â€, beam 32’6â€, 1337 tons s.d.
4 x 1 4.7†QF Mk IX on CP Mk XIV mounts (30-degree elevation), 2 x 1 2-pdr AA, 2 x 4 21†TT, one rack and two throwers for 25 dc
Saguenay (I.79): AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel reduced in height, aft bank of TT replaced by 12-pdr AA gun, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage; 1942-11 severely damaged by collision with merchant, only partially repaired and relegated to training
Skeena (I.59): AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel reduced in height, aft bank of TT replaced by 12-pdr AA gun, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage; 1944-10-25 wrecked off Hvalfjord, Iceland
B class (Beagle class) 1928 program
Length overall 323’0â€, beam 32’3â€, 1360 tons s.d.
4 x 1 4.7†QF Mk IX on CP Mk XIV mounts (30-degree elevation), 2 x 1 2-pdr AA, 2 x 4 21†TT, one rack and two throwers for 25 dc
Basilisk (H.11): 1940-06-01 off Dunkirk sunk by aircraft bombs
Beagle (H.30): AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel lowered, aft bank of TT replaced by 12-pdr AA gun, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage; later “A†gun replaced by hedgehog, DCT & RF replaced by SW/RDF, 12-pdr AA replaced by additional dc storage; survived to end of war
Blanche (H.47): 1939-11-13 in Thames estuary sunk by mine
Boadicea (H.65): AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel lowered, aft bank of TT replaced by 12-pdr AA gun, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage; 1944-06-13 off Portland sunk by aircraft torpedo
Boreas (H.77): AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel lowered, aft bank of TT replaced by 12-pdr AA gun, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage; 1944 transferred to Greek navy as Salamis
Brazen (H.80): 1940-07-20 off Dover sunk by aircraft bombs
Brilliant (H.84): AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel lowered, aft bank of TT replaced by 12-pdr AA gun, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage; later DCT & RF replaced by SW/RDF, 2 x 1 2-pdr replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, 2 x 1 20 mm added at searchlight platform; survived to end of war
Bulldog (H.91): pre-war tested a 60-degree mount (CP Mk XIII) in ‘B’ position but this was unsuccessful and was replaced by the standard 30-degree mount; AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel lowered, aft bank of TT replaced by 12-pdr AA gun, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage, later “A†gun replaced by hedgehog, DCT & RF replaced by SW/RDF, 2 x 1 20 mm added at searchlight platform, 12-pdr AA replaced by additional dc storage; survived to end of war
B class leader – Keith (D.06)
Length overall 323’0â€, beam 32’3â€, 1360 tons s.d.
4 x 1 4.7†QF Mk IX on CP Mk XIV mounts (30-degree elevation), 2 x 1 2-pdr AA, 2 x 4 21†TT, one rack and two throwers for 25 dc
1940-06-01 off Dunkirk sunk by aircraft bombs
C class (Crusader class) 1929 program: Note: For political reasons, this class was limited to four destroyers plus a leader. This produced a group of five ships that did not fit into any standard role within the RN, so they were transferred to Canada in 1937/1938. Note: This class had a unique bridge design with the compass platform/wheelhouse separated from the chartroom/director tower by an open gap.
Length overall: 329’ 0â€, beam 33’ 0â€, 1375 tons s.d. (Note: larger than previous destroyers to obtain greater range and allow mounting 3†AA gun)
4 x 1 4.7†Mk. IX on C.P. XIV (30 degree) mounting, superimposed fore and aft, 1 x 1 3†Q.F. H.A. II on H.A. III mounting between funnels (probably the worst possible place for an anti-aircraft gun), 2 x 1 2-pdr pom-pom at the aft end of the fo’c’sle, 2 x 4 21†torpedo tubes Q.R. III, fitted for two-speed destroyer sweep (TSDS, mine sweeping gear), six depth charges; For all ships, the 3†AA gun was removed in 1936 and the 2-pdrs moved back to the same frame. This actually was an improvement because the 3†would have been ineffective and moving the 2-pdrs gave them better coverage.
Crusader (H.60): became Ottawa in Canadian service; 1940 modified for escort service – 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, 2 x 5 0.5†mg replaced 2 x 1 2-pdr, AW/RDF added, 3†AA replaced aft bank of TT, aft funnel reduced in height, ‘Y’ gun mount replaced with additional depth charges; sunk 1942-09-14 by submarine torpedo in NW Atlantic
Comet (H.00): became Restigouche in Canadian service; 1940 modified for escort service – 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, 2 x 5 0.5†mg replaced 2 x 1 2-pdr, AW/RDF added, 3†AA (some sources say 4â€) replaced aft bank of TT, aft funnel reduced in height, ‘Y’ gun mount replaced with additional depth charge racks and dc throwers; 1942 – ‘B’ gun mount replaced by hedgehog and 2 x 1 6-pdr, DCT & RF replaced by SW RDF, 2 x 4 0.5†replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, additional 2 x 1 20 mm added, 3†(or 4â€) AA gun removed in favor of additional depth charge throwers; survived to end of war
Crescent (H.48): became Fraser in Canadian service; 1940 modified for escort service – 2 x 5 0.5†mg replaced 2 x 1 2-pdr, 3†AA replaced aft bank of TT; sank 1940-06-20 due to collision with cruiser Calcutta
Cygnet (H.83): became St. Laurent in Canadian service; 1940 modified for escort service – 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, 2 x 5 0.5†mg replaced 2 x 1 2-pdr, AW/RDF added, 3†AA replaced aft bank of TT, aft funnel reduced in height, ‘Y’ gun mount replaced with additional depth charges; survived to end of war
C class leader – Kempenfelt (D.18): through 1939 size, armament, and appearance same as C class destroyers except 1390 ton s.d. and carried additional boat; temporarily had prototype 5.1†gun in ‘B’ mount, but this gun design was not adapted by the RN and the gun was made 4.7†to match others; became Assiniboine (I.18) in Canadian service; 1940 converted for escort work – aft bank of TT replaced by 3†AA gun, aft funnel reduced in height, 2 x 4 0.5†mg replaced 2 x 1 2-pdr; later (1941?) ‘Y’ mount gun replaced by additional depth charge racks & throwers; (1942?) 3†AA moved to ‘X’ position and additional depth charges added; (1943?) split hedgehog added by ‘A’ mount, 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5†mg, additional 2 x 1 20 fitted, AW RDF fitted, and SW RDF replaced DCT & RF; survived to end of war
D class (Defender class) 1930 program: repeat of C class design except bridge not split, most received 2 x 4 0.5†mg in place of 2 x 1 2-pdr from the start, and more depth charges in place of TSDS:
Length overall: 329’ 0â€, beam 33’ 0â€, 1375 tons s.d.
4 x 1 4.7†Mk. IX on C.P. XIV (30 degree) mounting, superimposed fore and aft, 1 x 1 3†Q.F. H.A. II on H.A. III mounting between funnels (probably the worst possible place for an anti-aircraft gun), 2 x 4 0.5†mg at the aft end of the fo’c’sle, 2 x 4 21†torpedo tubes Q.R. III, 1 depth charge rack and 2 dc throwers with 20 dc. For all ships, the 3†AA gun was removed in 1936 and the 2 x 4 0.5†mg moved back to the same frame.
Dainty (H.53): 1940 modified for escort duty (AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5†mg, aft bank of TT replaced by 3†AA gun and aft funnel shortened); sunk by aircraft bombs in Tobruk harbor 1941-02-24
Daring (H.16): sunk by submarine torpedo in Home Waters 1940-02-18, probably before any significant wartime modifications
Decoy (H.75): 1940 modified for escort duty (AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5†mg, aft bank of TT replaced by 3†AA gun and aft funnel shortened); 1943 to Canada as Kootenay; ‘B’ gun replaced by hedgehog and 2 x 1 6-pdr, DCT & RF replaced by SW RDF, 2-pdrs replaced by 20 mm, ‘Y’ gun mount removed for additional depth charges.
Defender (H.07): 1940 modified for escort duty (AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5†mg, aft bank of TT replaced by 3†AA gun and aft funnel shortened); sunk by aircraft bombs in Mediterranean 1941-07-11
Delight (H.38): uncertain which modifications (if any) had been made; sunk by aircraft bombs in English Channel 1940-07-24
Diamond (H.22): 1940 modified for escort duty (AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5†mg, aft bank of TT replaced by 3†AA gun and aft funnel shortened); sunk by aircraft bombs in Mediterranean 1941-04-27
Diana (H.49): 1940 modified for escort duty (AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5†mg, aft bank of TT replaced by 3†AA gun and aft funnel shortened); transferred to Canada as Margaree; sunk by collision with merchant vessel in North Atlantic 1940-10-22
Duchess (H.64): sunk by collision with HMS Barham 1939-12-12
D class leader – Duncan (D.99): through 1939 size, armament, and appearance same as D class destroyers except 1390 ton s.d.; 1940 modified for escort duty (AW/RDF added, 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5†mg, aft bank of TT replaced by 3†AA gun and aft funnel shortened); later, ‘A’ gun mount replaced by hedgehog, DCT & RF replaced by SW RDF, 2 x 4 .50†replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, additional 2 x 1 20 mm added, 3†AA gun and ‘Y’ gun mount replaced with additional depth charge throwers and dc storage; survived to end of war
E class (Eclipse class) 1931 program:
Length overall: 329’ 0â€, beam 33’ 3â€, 1405 tons s.d.
4 x 1 4.7†Mk. IX on C.P. XVII (40 degree) mounting, superimposed fore and aft, 2 x 4 0.5†machine guns, 2 x 4 21†torpedo tubes (Q.R. Mk. VI)
Echo (H.23): standard modifications; survived to end of war
Eclipse (H.08): standard modifications; damaged by bomb 1940-04 & temporarily abandoned but towed to port and repaired; sunk by mine in Eastern Mediterranean 1943-10-24
Escapade (H.17): standard modifications; converted to escort in 1943 (hedgehog replaced ‘A’ gun, 4 depth charge throwers replaced 3†gun and ‘Y’ mount), in 1945 double squid replaced hedgehog; survived to end of war
Escort (H.66): standard modifications may have been made before loss, but uncertain; sunk by submarine torpedo 1940-07-11 in Western Mediterranean
Electra (H.27): standard modifications; sunk by Japanese gunfire and torpedoes 1942-02
Encounter (H.10): standard modifications; sunk by Japanese gunfire and torpedoes 1942-03
Esk (H.15): completed as minelayer (when carrying mines, no guns in ‘A’ and ‘Y’ locations, no torpedoes, up to 60 Mk. XIVA mines); sunk 1940-08-31 by mine
Express (H.61): completed as minelayer (as Esk); severely damaged by mine 1940-08-31, under repair for > 12 months; emerged with 4.7†gun in ‘A’ position, 2 x 6 pdr (57 mm) plus hedgehog in ‘B’ position, 3†AA in aft torpedo tube location, 4.7†gun in ‘X’ position, and depth charge throwers & racks in place of mine laying gear; transferred to Canada as RCN Gatineau.
“standard modifications†(performed mid- to late-1940, depending on when ship happened to be in port for maintenance or repair) = 12 pdr (3â€) antiaircraft gun replaced aft bank of torpedo tubes, aft funnel shortened and mainmast removed, 2 x 1 20 mm Oerlikon automatic cannon replaced quadruple 0.5†machine guns, additional 2 x 1 20 mm added in most cases, and aircraft warning radar added. Strangely, I can not find any ships in this class that retained ‘A,’ ‘B,’ and ‘X’ gun mounts but landed the ‘Y’ mount in favor of additional anti-submarine weapons (as in GHQ’s UKN39, E class) Update: I have found a picture of Express from 1942 (in the Wikipedia article) in which she appears to have 4.7†gun mounts in ‘A,’ ‘B,’ and ‘X’ positions (but not in ‘Y’ position). However, this may not match the appearance of UKN39 because it also seems to show two banks of torpedoes. The resolution of the picture is not adequate for me to be sure.
E class leader – Exmouth
Length overall: 343’ 0â€, beam 33’ 9â€, 1495 tons s.d.
5 x 1 4.7†Mk. IX on C.P. XVII (40 degree) mounting, superimposed fore and aft plus one between funnels, 2 x 4 0.5†machine guns at wings of signal bridge, 2 x 4 21†torpedo tubes (Q.R. Mk. VI)
Probably no modifications before being sunk 1940-01-21 by submarine torpedo in home waters
F class (Fearless class) 1932 program: Repeat E class
Length overall: 329’ 0â€, beam 33’ 3â€, 1405 tons s.d.
4 x 1 4,7†Mk. IX on C.P. XVII (40 degree) mounting, superimposed fore and aft, 2 x 4 0.5†machine guns, 2 x 4 21†torpedo tubes (Q.R. Mk. VI)
Fame (H.78): standard modifications; in 1941 radar replaced director control tower (DCT) & rangefinder (RF), hedgehog replaced ‘A’ mount, and ‘Y’ mount replaced by additional depth charge racks & throwers; in 1943 ‘A’ mount restored, initial hedgehog replaced by split hedgehog, and 3†AA replaced by additional 20 mm (total of 6 x 1 at this time); survived to end of war
Fearless (H.67): standard modifications; in 1941 ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional depth charge racks & throwers; sunk by aircraft torpedo in Mediterranean 1941-07
Firedrake (H.79): standard modifications; ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional depth charge racks & throwers; severely damaged by aircraft bombs in Mediterranean 1941-07; repaired in US; sunk by submarine torpedo in North Atlantic 1942-12
Forester (H.74): standard modifications; in 1941 ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional depth charge racks & throwers; in 1943 split hedgehog added forward and short-wave radio direction finder (SWRDF) replaced DCT & RF; survived to end of war
Foresight (H.68): standard modifications; sunk by aircraft torpedo in Mediterranean 1942-08
Fortune (H.70): standard modifications; in 1941 ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional depth charge racks & throwers; in 1943 split hedgehog added forward and short-wave radio direction finder (SWRDF) replaced DCT & RF; transferred to Canada 1943-06;survived to end of war
Foxhound (H.69): standard modifications; in 1941 ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional depth charge racks & throwers; in 1943 split hedgehog added forward and short-wave radio direction finder (SWRDF) replaced DCT & RF; transferred to Canada 1943-06; survived to end of war
Fury (H.76): standard modifications; damaged by mine off Normandy 1944-06, grounded and constructive total loss
“standard modifications†essentially the same as for E class, except that F class tended to retain quad mount 0.5†machine guns longer. It seems that GHQ’s UKN39 is a better match to ~ 1941 F class than it is to E class.
F class leader – Faulknor – initially same as Exmouth
Length overall: 343’ 0â€, beam 33’ 9â€, 1495 tons s.d.
5 x 1 4.7†Mk. IX on C.P. XVII (40 degree) mounting, superimposed fore and aft plus one between funnels, 2 x 4 0.5†machine guns, 2 x 4 21†torpedo tubes (Q.R. Mk. VI)
1941-01, 3†AA replaced aft bank of TT; 1942-01, high-angle radio-direction (HA/RD) replaced DCT & RF and aft funnel reduced in height; 1943-01, 3†AA moved to ‘X’ position (some say now 4†AA), aft bank of TT reinstalled, 4 x 1 20 mm added (one pair replacing 0.5â€, other pair on after deck house); 1945-01, ‘Q’ mount 4.7†replaced by quad 2 pdr pom-pom and 2 x 2 20 mm added; survived to end of war
G class (Greyhound class) 1933 program
Length overall: 323’ 0â€, beam 33’ 3â€, 1350 tons s.d. Note that the G class is smaller than the preceding classes. This was due to an improvement in power plant design. In most countries, this would have been used to improve the performance (power, range, habitability, and/or space for weapons). The British government decided to reduce the size of the ships as an economy measure. Of course, the cost of re-designing the hull more than offset any savings in materials and there was less room for weapons when the war came around.
4 x 1 4.7†Mk. IX on C.P. XVII (40 degree) mounting, superimposed fore and aft, 2 x 4 0.5†machine guns, 2 x 4 21†torpedo tubes (Q.R. Mk. VI) (except Glowworm, described below), one rack and two dc throwers, 20 depth charges, TSDS
Gallant (H.59): standard modifications; 1941-01-10 mined in Mediterranean, beached at Malta and expended as blockship
Garland (H.37): standard modifications; 1940 transferred to Polish Navy under same name; 1941 ‘Y’ gun landed for additional dc throwers & storage, 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5â€, additional 2 x 1 20 added to bridge wings; 1942 ‘B’ gun replaced by hedgehog, additional 2 x 1 20 mm added to searchlight platform.
Gipsy (H.63): 1939-11-21 sunk by mine in home waters
Glowworm (H.92): built with 2 x 5 21†TT P.R. Mk. I; 1940-04-07 sunk by naval gunfire (German destroyers and cruiser Admiral Hipper)
Grafton (H.89): 1940-05-29 severely damaged by submarine torpedo off Dunkirk, abandoned and sunk
Grenade (H.86) 1940-05-29 sunk by aircraft bombs off Dunkirk
Greyhound (H.31): standard modifications; 1941 ‘Y’ gun removed for additional dc throwers and storage, 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5â€, additional 2 x 1 20 mm in bridge wings; 1943 ‘A’ gun replaced by hedgehog, DCT & RF replaced by SW RDF, 3†AA removed for additional dc storage, additional 2 x 1 20 mm on searchlight platform, transferred to Canada as Ottawa (ii)
“standard modifications†(performed mid- to late-1940, depending on when ship happened to be in port for maintenance or repair) = 12 pdr (3â€) antiaircraft gun replaced aft bank of torpedo tubes, aft funnel shortened and mainmast removed, and aircraft warning radar added.
G class leader – Grenville (H.03): similar to Faulknor except for length
Length overall: 330’ 0â€, beam 34’ 6â€, 1465 tons s.d.
5 x 1 4.7†Mk. IX on C.P. XVII (40 degree) mounting, superimposed fore and aft plus one between funnels, 2 x 4 0.5†machine guns, 2 x 4 21†torpedo tubes (Q.R. Mk. VI)
1940-01-19 sunk by mine in North Sea
H class (Hero class) 1934 program
Length overall: 323’ 0â€, beam 33’ 0â€, 1340 tons s.d.
4 x 1 4.7†Mk. IX on C.P. XVII (40 degree) mounting (except Hereward as described below), superimposed fore and aft, 2 x 4 0.5†machine guns, 2 x 4 21†torpedo tubes (Q.R. Mk. VI)
Hasty (H.24): standard modifications; 1940 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5â€, additional 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings; 1942-06-15 sunk by MTB torpedo in eastern Mediterranean
Havock (H.43):standard modifications; 1940 2 x 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5â€, 2 x 20 mm added to bridge wings; 1942-04 damaged by air attack, grounded beyond recovery on French coast en-route from Malta to Gibralter
Hereward (H.93): completed with twin 4.7†C.P. mounting Mk. XVIII in ‘B’ position (some written accounts imply that this was in addition to a single mount in ‘A’ position, but the only photograph I have found clearly show nothing in the ‘A’ position), revised bridge to provide helmsman line of sight above the mount, and higher funnels (possibly to keep exhaust from the bridge?); 1937 twin mount removed from ‘B’ position and single 4.7†mounts placed in ‘A’ and ‘B’ positions; standard modifications; 1940 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5â€, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings; 1941-05-29 sunk by aircraft torpedo off Crete
Hero (H.99): completed with same bridge as Hereward, but not twin gun mount; standard modifications; 1940 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5â€, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings; 1943 ‘A’ gun replaced by hedgehog and 2 x 1 6-pdr, DCT and RF replaced by SW RDF, ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc throwers and storage, transferred to Canada as Chaudiere; survived to end of war
Hostile (H.55): 1940 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5â€; 1940-08-23 sunk by mine
Hotspur (H.01): standard modifications; 1940 2 x 1 20 mm replaced 2 x 4 0.5â€, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings; 1943 ‘A’ gun replaced by hedgehog, DCT & RF replaced by SW RDF, 3†AA gun removed for additional dc storage and 2 x 1 20 mm added; survived to end of war
Hunter (H.35): 1940-04-10 sunk by naval gunfire and collision at Narvik
Hyperion (H.97): standard modifications; 1940 2 x 4 0.5†replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm; 1940-12-22 sunk by submarine torpedo in Mediterranean
“standard modifications†(performed mid- to late-1940, depending on when ship happened to be in port for maintenance or repair) = 12 pdr (3â€) antiaircraft gun replaced aft bank of torpedo tubes, aft funnel shortened and mainmast removed, and aircraft warning radar added.
H class leader – Hardy (H.87): Similar to Grenville except for tripod foremast
Length overall: 330’ 0â€, beam 34’ 0â€, 1455 tons s.d.
5 x 1 4.7†Mk. IX on C.P. XVII (40 degree) mounting, superimposed fore and aft plus one between funnels, 2 x 4 0.5†machine guns, 2 x 4 21†torpedo tubes (Q.R. Mk. VI)
1940-04-10 severely damaged by naval gunfire of German destroyers at Narvik, beached, abandoned, and capsized
Ex-Brazilian Juruena class – built in British yards for Brazil but taken over (purchased) by UK; essentially repeats of the H class except lower funnels and armament as described below
Length overall: 323’ 0â€, beam 33’ 0â€, 1340 tons s.d.
3 x 1 4.7†Mk. IX on C.P. XVII (40 degree) mounting (‘A’ ‘B’ and ‘X’ mountings; ‘Y’ position used for additional anti-submarine weapons), superimposed fore and aft, combined DCT and RF [except Havant, Hesperus, Havelock, and Highlander as described below], 2 x 1 20 mm automatic cannon, 2 x 4 21†torpedo tubes (Q.R. Mk. VI) [except Havant, Hesperus, Havelock, and Highlander as described below], 2 racks & 4 projectors for 110 depth charges
Harvester (H.19) [intended to be Brazilian Jurua, initially named Handy in British service but changed 1940-02-27 to avoid confusion with Hardy): entered service with rudimentary rangefinder instead of combined DCT/RF and with no torpedo tubes; when available, combined DCT/RF fitted, forward bank of TT installed, 3†AA gun in place of aft TTs, AW/RDF fitted, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings; 1943-03-11 sunk by submarine torpedo in North Atlantic
Havant (H.32) [intended to be Brazilian Javary]: entered service with rudimentary rangefinder instead of combined DCT/RF and with no torpedo tubes; received both banks of TT; 1940-06-01 severely damaged by aircraft bombs off Dunkirk, abandoned and intentionally sunk
Havelock (H.88) [intended to be Brazilian Jutahy]: entered service with rudimentary rangefinder instead of combined DCT/RF and with no torpedo tubes; when available, combined DCT/RF fitted, forward bank of TT installed, 3†AA gun in place of aft TTs, AW/RDF fitted, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings; later ‘A’ gun replaced by hedgehog, DCT/RF replaced by SW/RDF, 3†AA gun removed for additional dc storage; survived to end of war
Hesperus (H.57) [intended to be Brazilian Juruena, initially named Hearty in British service but changed 1940-02-27 to avoid confusion with Hardy, informally referred to as ‘Heinz’ because of pennant number): entered service with rudimentary rangefinder instead of combined DCT/RF and with no torpedo tubes; when available, combined DCT/RF fitted, forward bank of TT installed, 3†AA gun in place of aft TTs, AW/RDF fitted, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings; later ‘A’ gun replaced by hedgehog, DCT/RF replaced by SW/RDF, 3†AA gun removed for additional dc storage; survived to end of war
Highlander (H.44) [intended to be Brazilian Jaguaribe]: entered service with rudimentary rangefinder instead of combined DCT/RF and with no torpedo tubes; when available, combined DCT/RF fitted, forward bank of TT installed, 3†AA gun in place of aft TTs, AW/RDF fitted, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings; later ‘A’ gun replaced by hedgehog, DCT/RF replaced by SW/RDF, 3†AA gun removed for additional dc storage; survived to end of war
Hurricane (H.06) [intended to be Brazilian Japarua]: early 1940 AW/RDF fitted, aft bank of TT replaced by 3†AA gun, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings; 1941-01-07 bombed and sunk in Liverpool, raised and returned to service in 1943-01; 1943-12-24 sunk off Azores by submarine torpedo
I class (Intrepid class) 1935 program
Length overall: 323’ 0â€, beam 33’ 0â€, 1370 tons s.d.
4 x 1 4.7†Q.F. Mk. IX on C.P. XVIII (40 degree) mounting, superimposed fore and aft, 2 x 4 0.5†machine guns, 2 x 5 21†torpedo tubes (P.R. Mk. I), 2 racks & 2 projectors for 16 dc, TSDS, all capable of carrying mines (Note: All of the destroyers had the angled bridge introduced by Hereward. There was no raised casing over the engine room – this was to counteract the extra weight of the fifth tube in each torpedo mount)
Icarus (D.03): early in war served as minelayer (no 4.7†guns in ‘A’ or ‘Y’ position, no TT, up to 60 mines carried), then as destroyer (‘A’ and ‘Y’ guns restored, forward bank of TT restored but with center tube empty, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, AW/RDF and HF/DF fitted, 2 x 4 0.5†replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, aft funnel reduced in height, 3†AA gun in place of after TT, by 1944 hedgehog replaced ‘A’ gun, ‘Y’ gun and 3†AA landed, 2 x 1 20 mm added, now 2 racks and 6 projectors for 110 mines; survived to end of war
Ilex (D.61): early modifications – 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel reduced in height, aft TT mount replaced by 3†AA gun; 1941-06 in Mediterranean severely damaged by aircraft bombs, under repair in US until 1943-02 with AW RDF added, 2 x 4 0.5†replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, center tube of remaining TT mount removed to reduce topweight; by 1944 ‘Y’ gun landed, 3†gun landed, 2 x 1 20 mm added, now 2 racks and 6 projectors for 110 dc; survived to end of war
Imogen (D.44): 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel reduced in height, aft TT mount replaced by 3†AA gun; 1940-07-06 off Scottish coast collided with cruiser Glasgow, caught fire and abandoned
Imperial (D.09): 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel reduced in height, aft TT mount replaced by 3†AA gun; 1940-10-11 in Mediterranean severely damaged by mine, six under repair; 1941-05-29 severely damaged by aircraft bomb near miss, abandoned and intentionally sunk
Impulsive (D.11): early in war served as minelayer (no 4.7†guns in ‘A’ or ‘Y’ position, no TT, up to 60 mines carried), then as destroyer (‘A’ and ‘Y’ guns restored, forward bank of TT restored but with center tube empty, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, AW/RDF and HF/DF fitted, 2 x 4 0.5†replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, aft funnel reduced in height, 3†AA gun in place of after TT, by 1944 ‘B’ gun replaced by hedgehog and 2 x 1 6 pdr, ‘Y’ gun and 3†AA landed, 2 x 1 20 mm added, now 2 racks and 6 projectors for 110 mines; survived to end of war
Intrepid (D.10): early in war served as minelayer (no 4.7†guns in ‘A’ or ‘Y’ position, no TT, up to 60 mines carried), then as destroyer (‘A’ and ‘Y’ guns restored, forward bank of TT restored but with center tube empty, 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, AW/RDF and HF/DF fitted, 2 x 4 0.5†replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, aft funnel reduced in height, 3†AA gun in place of after TT; later ‘B’ gun replaced by hedgehog and 2 x 1 6 pdr, ‘Y’ gun and 3†AA landed, 2 x 1 20 mm added, now 2 racks and 6 projectors for 110 mines; 1943-07-27 in Mediterranean sunk by aircraft bombs
Isis (D.87): early modifications – 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, aft funnel reduced in height, aft TT mount replaced by 3†AA gun; 1941-06 in Mediterranean severely damaged by aircraft bombs, sent to Singapore for repairs; at time of Japanese invasion towed to Java, Colombo, and finally Bombay for completion of repairs; AW RDF added, 2 x 4 0.5†replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, center tube of remaining TT mount removed to reduce topweight; later ‘B’ gun replaced by hedgehog, ‘Y’ gun and 3†AA landed, 2 x 1 20 mm added, now 2 racks and 6 projectors for 110 mines; 1944-07-20 off Normandy sunk by miniature submarine torpedo
Ivanhoe (D.16): early in war served as minelayer (no 4.7†guns in ‘A’ or ‘Y’ position, no TT, up to 60 mines carried); in this configuration 1940-09-01 in North Sea severely damaged by mine, subsequently additional damage by aircraft bombs, finally abandoned and intentionally sunk
I class leader – Inglefield (D.02): Similar to Hardy except for pentad torpedo tube mounts. Note: Inglefield had the older style bridge, different from all other I class destroyers.
Length overall: 337’ 0â€, beam 34’ 0â€, 1544 tons s.d.
5 x 1 4.7†Mk. IX on C.P. XVIII (40 degree) mounting, superimposed fore and aft plus one between funnels, 2 x 4 0.5†machine guns, 2 x 5 21†torpedo tubes (P.R. Mk. I)
early modifications – aft funnel reduced in height, aft TT mount replaced by 3†AA gun, 2 x 1 20 mm added to aft deck house; 1942 AW RDF added, 2 x 4 0.5†replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, 3†AA moved to ‘X’ position and aft bank of TT restored (but with center tube removed from both banks); 1944-02-25 off Anzio sunk by guided bomb
Ex-Turkish Demirhisar class – built in British yards for Turkey but two taken over (purchased) by UK; essentially repeats of the I class except as described below (Considering the desperate need for ships of this type and Turkish antipathy towards British interests, it is surprising that the other two were delivered to the intended customer. The British ships did not enter service until well after the start of the war.)
Length overall: 323’ 0â€, beam 33’ 0â€, 1370 tons s.d.
4 x 1 4.7†Q.F. Mk. IX on C.P. XVIII (40 degree) mounting, superimposed fore and aft, 2 x 4 0.5†mg, 2 x 4 21†torpedo tubes (Q.R. Mk. VI), 2 racks & 2 projectors for 16 dc
Inconstant (H.49) [ex-Turkish Mauavenet]: 1942 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, 2 x 4 0.5†replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, aft bank of TT replaced by 1 x 1 3†AA gun; 1943 converted for escort duty, AW/RDF fitted, DCT/RF replaced by SW/RDF, 2 x 1 20 mm added on searchlight platform, 3†AA gun and ‘Y’ gun replaced by additional dc projectors and dc storage; survived to end of war at which time she was refurbished and retroceded to Turkey as Mauavenet
Ithuriel (H.05) [ex-Turkish Gayret]: 1942 2 x 1 20 mm added to bridge wings, 2 x 4 0.5†replaced by 2 x 1 20 mm, aft bank of TT replaced by 1 x 1 3†AA gun;1942-11-28 in Mediterranean constructive total loss due to aircraft bombs, guns landed for coastal defense and hull scrapped post-war
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Rotors for 1/2400 Helicopters
These helicopters mostly come with rotors folded along the tailboom. Does anyone do any mods to make them look more flight-like?
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I snip the folded rotors off. Then I use a paper hole punch to punch small circles of clear plastic out of the GHQ blister packs and glue these circles in place. If you have a specialty paper/stationery store nearby you can often find different sizes of hole punches. Micro Mark tools also offers some small punches for use with brass or copper sheets to make instrument gauges and dials for instrument panels, these might work as well.These helicopters mostly come with rotors folded along the tailboom. Does anyone do any mods to make them look more flight-like?
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Thanks, I was thinking standard paper punch holes would be too small but it calculates out to 50 foot diameter which is close enough.
av8rmongo wrote:I snip the folded rotors off. Then I use a paper hole punch to punch small circles of clear plastic out of the GHQ blister packs and glue these circles in place. If you have a specialty paper/stationery store nearby you can often find different sizes of hole punches. Micro Mark tools also offers some small punches for use with brass or copper sheets to make instrument gauges and dials for instrument panels, these might work as well.These helicopters mostly come with rotors folded along the tailboom. Does anyone do any mods to make them look more flight-like?
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I posted some modern naval miniatures pictures on my blog. Here are a few of them.
GHQ USS Roosevelt and Viking Forge Stennis (Nimitz) CVN aircraft carriers
Viking Forge Kang Ding FFG and GHQ Independence LCS
Four US Cargo/Supply/Oiler ships
LHA Tarawa
GHQ USS Roosevelt and Viking Forge Stennis (Nimitz) CVN aircraft carriers
Viking Forge Kang Ding FFG and GHQ Independence LCS
Four US Cargo/Supply/Oiler ships
LHA Tarawa
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I put up pictures of various painted 1/2400 modern naval miniatures. Here are a few:
GHQ and Viking Forge Nimitz CVNs
Chinese Houbei (Type 022) Missile Boats
Viking Forge Sealift Pacific transport oiler
GHQ and Viking Forge Nimitz CVNs
Chinese Houbei (Type 022) Missile Boats
Viking Forge Sealift Pacific transport oiler
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My guesses for 2018-2019 Micronaut releases
GHQ has released the last of the 2017-2018 Micronauts and within the next month they will announce their new releases for the coming year. I would like to post my predictions/guesses for next year’s Micronaut releases. A suggestion from Mikee started this several years ago and it seemed to provoke some good discussions. We are interested in any support or contradictory opinions. Those of you interested in Microarmor, ACW or Napoleonic figures, etc.; start your own thread.
For those of you following the Consolidated Micronaut Wish List, predictions/guesses for next year’s releases do not count as votes in the Wish list.
For some time now, GHQ has consistently released twelve Micronauts per year. Since they resumed production of modern warships, there has been a pattern of four ships from the WWI era, four from WWII, and four modern (late Cold War or post-Cold War) ships (although in the 2016-2017 series there were five WWII and only three WWI). I predict that they will continue with twelve releases this year and return to four each WWI, WWII, and four post-Cold War.
WWI era releases: GHQ has already provided a fairly good collection of German and British ships of this era (although there are still a pre-Dreadnaught battleship, the Renown-class battlecruisers, several cruisers, and plenty of destroyers yet to be produced). Last year, GHQ introduced Italian WWI series with the Doria and Cavour battleships. For other countries for which GHQ has produced WWI ships (Austria-Hungary, France, Russia, and the USA) there are diminishing good choices.
All of the ‘modern’ (by Great War standards) battleships, cruisers and destroyers of the Austro-Hungarian navy have been produced. The armored cruiser Sankt Georg and the never-built ersatz Monarch, are possibilities. There are a number of pre-Dreadnought French ships that would make reasonable choices, including Charlemagne class battleships and Edgar Quinet class armored cruisers. Among Russian ships, the Svetlana class light cruisers and Kerch class destroyers are desirable. For the USA, New Mexico (BB 40) class battleships and Caldwell (DD 69) class destroyers would extend the available line.
Eventually, I expect GHQ to introduce Japan into the Great War series, but not this year. Although they did not participate in extensive combat during the war, their ships were interesting and there were possibilities among hypothetical battles. I can’t think of any other nations that would be significant to WWI.
My predictions for Great War releases are:
- UK battlecruiser Renown-class
- France pre-Dreadnought battleship Charlemagne-class (three in the class, all at the Dardanelles). The armored cruiser Edgar Quinet-class is my backup choice.
- Italy battleship Dante Alighieri (only a single ship but with unique appearance)
- Italy destroyer Indomito-class.
For my four selections in the era of WWII, I’m going to divide them according to type of ship rather than by country.
Recently GHQ seems to have been producing at least one aircraft carrier each year. Although I am more interested in surface warfare, I predict that there will be another aircraft carrier in this year’s offerings. My prediction is USS Lexington (CV-2) as she appeared at Coral Sea (most notably; four twin 8-inch guns replaced by seven quadruple 1.1-inch anti-aircraft guns. As a backup, I think the UK Vindex-class escort carriers might appear – it’s been a while since a new model of a WWII British carrier has appeared.
I also think there will be a battleship from WWII produced in the next year. I predict USS Idaho (BB-42) as she appeared in 1945 at Iwo Jima and Okinawa with individual enclosed 5â€/38 gun mounts. My alternate is a late-war Fuso.
GHQ should produce a WWII era cruiser in the coming year. My first choice is the French heavy cruiser Duquesne class. My second choice in this area are the Dido class cousins Scylla and Charybdis.
For my fourth choice in the WWII era, I am having trouble deciding between a destroyer type, an amphibious type, a merchant/auxiliary type, or a pack of aircraft. Last year, I predicted UK Fleet Air Arm carrier-based aircraft and missed. This year, I’m going to predict UK V & W-class long-range escort conversion.
Without going through a lot of details, my predictions for modern Micronauts are:
- China Type 071 (Yuzhao)-class amphibious transport
- US amphibious transport America (LHA-6)-class
- UK aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth (R08)
- Russia frigate Admiral Gorshkov (Project 22350)-class
As a backup, I suggest that GHQ might start a line of modern NATO ships with the Horizon (Forbin/Andrea Doria) class frigates and FREMM (Aquitaine/Bergamini) class frigates.
Don S.
GHQ has released the last of the 2017-2018 Micronauts and within the next month they will announce their new releases for the coming year. I would like to post my predictions/guesses for next year’s Micronaut releases. A suggestion from Mikee started this several years ago and it seemed to provoke some good discussions. We are interested in any support or contradictory opinions. Those of you interested in Microarmor, ACW or Napoleonic figures, etc.; start your own thread.
For those of you following the Consolidated Micronaut Wish List, predictions/guesses for next year’s releases do not count as votes in the Wish list.
For some time now, GHQ has consistently released twelve Micronauts per year. Since they resumed production of modern warships, there has been a pattern of four ships from the WWI era, four from WWII, and four modern (late Cold War or post-Cold War) ships (although in the 2016-2017 series there were five WWII and only three WWI). I predict that they will continue with twelve releases this year and return to four each WWI, WWII, and four post-Cold War.
WWI era releases: GHQ has already provided a fairly good collection of German and British ships of this era (although there are still a pre-Dreadnaught battleship, the Renown-class battlecruisers, several cruisers, and plenty of destroyers yet to be produced). Last year, GHQ introduced Italian WWI series with the Doria and Cavour battleships. For other countries for which GHQ has produced WWI ships (Austria-Hungary, France, Russia, and the USA) there are diminishing good choices.
All of the ‘modern’ (by Great War standards) battleships, cruisers and destroyers of the Austro-Hungarian navy have been produced. The armored cruiser Sankt Georg and the never-built ersatz Monarch, are possibilities. There are a number of pre-Dreadnought French ships that would make reasonable choices, including Charlemagne class battleships and Edgar Quinet class armored cruisers. Among Russian ships, the Svetlana class light cruisers and Kerch class destroyers are desirable. For the USA, New Mexico (BB 40) class battleships and Caldwell (DD 69) class destroyers would extend the available line.
Eventually, I expect GHQ to introduce Japan into the Great War series, but not this year. Although they did not participate in extensive combat during the war, their ships were interesting and there were possibilities among hypothetical battles. I can’t think of any other nations that would be significant to WWI.
My predictions for Great War releases are:
- UK battlecruiser Renown-class
- France pre-Dreadnought battleship Charlemagne-class (three in the class, all at the Dardanelles). The armored cruiser Edgar Quinet-class is my backup choice.
- Italy battleship Dante Alighieri (only a single ship but with unique appearance)
- Italy destroyer Indomito-class.
For my four selections in the era of WWII, I’m going to divide them according to type of ship rather than by country.
Recently GHQ seems to have been producing at least one aircraft carrier each year. Although I am more interested in surface warfare, I predict that there will be another aircraft carrier in this year’s offerings. My prediction is USS Lexington (CV-2) as she appeared at Coral Sea (most notably; four twin 8-inch guns replaced by seven quadruple 1.1-inch anti-aircraft guns. As a backup, I think the UK Vindex-class escort carriers might appear – it’s been a while since a new model of a WWII British carrier has appeared.
I also think there will be a battleship from WWII produced in the next year. I predict USS Idaho (BB-42) as she appeared in 1945 at Iwo Jima and Okinawa with individual enclosed 5â€/38 gun mounts. My alternate is a late-war Fuso.
GHQ should produce a WWII era cruiser in the coming year. My first choice is the French heavy cruiser Duquesne class. My second choice in this area are the Dido class cousins Scylla and Charybdis.
For my fourth choice in the WWII era, I am having trouble deciding between a destroyer type, an amphibious type, a merchant/auxiliary type, or a pack of aircraft. Last year, I predicted UK Fleet Air Arm carrier-based aircraft and missed. This year, I’m going to predict UK V & W-class long-range escort conversion.
Without going through a lot of details, my predictions for modern Micronauts are:
- China Type 071 (Yuzhao)-class amphibious transport
- US amphibious transport America (LHA-6)-class
- UK aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth (R08)
- Russia frigate Admiral Gorshkov (Project 22350)-class
As a backup, I suggest that GHQ might start a line of modern NATO ships with the Horizon (Forbin/Andrea Doria) class frigates and FREMM (Aquitaine/Bergamini) class frigates.
Don S.
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Ok, my predictions are :
WWI
- UK Seaplane Carrier Engadine
- Italy San Giorgio Cruiser
- Germany Submarines
- French pre-dreadnought sounds good
WW2
- UK Carrier Aircraft (Fighters, late war bombers)
- UK Battle Class Destroyer or Black Swan Sloop
- US Flight Deck Cruiser
- Japanese Fujimoto Compact Battleship design
Modern
- UK QE Carrier seems a cert
- US Replenishment vessel - Kaiser?
- US Virginia SSN
- Chinese LPD also looks good
It still strikes me as strange that the demand seems mainly focussed towards collection rather than wargaming in this range!
WWI
- UK Seaplane Carrier Engadine
- Italy San Giorgio Cruiser
- Germany Submarines
- French pre-dreadnought sounds good
WW2
- UK Carrier Aircraft (Fighters, late war bombers)
- UK Battle Class Destroyer or Black Swan Sloop
- US Flight Deck Cruiser
- Japanese Fujimoto Compact Battleship design
Modern
- UK QE Carrier seems a cert
- US Replenishment vessel - Kaiser?
- US Virginia SSN
- Chinese LPD also looks good
It still strikes me as strange that the demand seems mainly focussed towards collection rather than wargaming in this range!
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Looking over the set of active warships that GHQ hasn't produced yet for the five countries they currently cover, there are:
US
* America-class LHA (2)
* Harpers Ferry LSD (4) - Unlikely since they put out the Whidbey Island LSD recently.
UK
* Queen Elizabeth CV (2)
* Albion LSD (2)
China
* Type 055 DDG (2)
* Type 071 LPD (6)
* Type 056 corvette (37+)
Japan
* Atago DDG (2)
* Asahi DD (2)
* Akizuki DD (4)
* Abukuma DE (6)
Russia
* Kuznetsov CV (1) - Unlikely
* Ropucha LST (15) - Unlikely
* Alligator LST (4) - Unlikely
* Admiral Grigorovich FFG (3)
* Neustrashimyy FFG (2)
* Tarantul corvette (25+)
* Zubr LCAC (2+)
The most modern ships of two countries they might want to expand into are India and South Korea:
India
* Vikramaditya CV (1)
* Kolkata DDG (3)
* Delhi DDG (3)
* Shivalik FFG (3)
* Talwar FFG (6)
* Kamorta corvette (3)
South Korea
* Dokdo LPH (2)
* Sejong the Great (3+3)
* Chungmugong Yi Sun-shin DDH (6)
* Incheon FFG (6)
My thoughts on the 2018-2019 Modern warships:
* Generally there are four modern warships and that trend will likely continue.
* The US had two ships in 2017-2018, so I think there will be at most one US ship this year.
* China had one ship in 2017-2018, and I think that will continue this year.
* Japan had one ship in 2017-2018, and all the major ships (except the Atago) are covered.
* None of the metal 1/2400 miniature metal manufacturers make ships for India or South Korea.[/list]
So my picks are:
* America-class LHA or Queen Elizabeth CV (likely only one carrier-type ship from an existing country)
* Type 071 LPD or Type 056 corvette
* Atago DDG or Akizuki DD or a new country
* Admiral Grigorovich FFG or a new country
If GHQ decides to expand to other countries, then the likely selection will be two ships for a country such as:
* Vikramaditya CV and Kolkata DDG
* Dokdo LPH and Sejong the Great DDG
Personally, I would like to see:
* Type 056 corvette
* Atago DDG
* Asahi DD
* Tarantul corvette (but I am biased since there is one an hour away from me)
Looking forward to the new announcements.
US
* America-class LHA (2)
* Harpers Ferry LSD (4) - Unlikely since they put out the Whidbey Island LSD recently.
UK
* Queen Elizabeth CV (2)
* Albion LSD (2)
China
* Type 055 DDG (2)
* Type 071 LPD (6)
* Type 056 corvette (37+)
Japan
* Atago DDG (2)
* Asahi DD (2)
* Akizuki DD (4)
* Abukuma DE (6)
Russia
* Kuznetsov CV (1) - Unlikely
* Ropucha LST (15) - Unlikely
* Alligator LST (4) - Unlikely
* Admiral Grigorovich FFG (3)
* Neustrashimyy FFG (2)
* Tarantul corvette (25+)
* Zubr LCAC (2+)
The most modern ships of two countries they might want to expand into are India and South Korea:
India
* Vikramaditya CV (1)
* Kolkata DDG (3)
* Delhi DDG (3)
* Shivalik FFG (3)
* Talwar FFG (6)
* Kamorta corvette (3)
South Korea
* Dokdo LPH (2)
* Sejong the Great (3+3)
* Chungmugong Yi Sun-shin DDH (6)
* Incheon FFG (6)
My thoughts on the 2018-2019 Modern warships:
* Generally there are four modern warships and that trend will likely continue.
* The US had two ships in 2017-2018, so I think there will be at most one US ship this year.
* China had one ship in 2017-2018, and I think that will continue this year.
* Japan had one ship in 2017-2018, and all the major ships (except the Atago) are covered.
* None of the metal 1/2400 miniature metal manufacturers make ships for India or South Korea.[/list]
So my picks are:
* America-class LHA or Queen Elizabeth CV (likely only one carrier-type ship from an existing country)
* Type 071 LPD or Type 056 corvette
* Atago DDG or Akizuki DD or a new country
* Admiral Grigorovich FFG or a new country
If GHQ decides to expand to other countries, then the likely selection will be two ships for a country such as:
* Vikramaditya CV and Kolkata DDG
* Dokdo LPH and Sejong the Great DDG
Personally, I would like to see:
* Type 056 corvette
* Atago DDG
* Asahi DD
* Tarantul corvette (but I am biased since there is one an hour away from me)
Looking forward to the new announcements.