Consolidated 1/285 Wish List

CG2 · Post by **CG2** » Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:45 pm

I suppose that these would work well before combat starts - after all, there's a lot of waiting around and posturing before a trigger gets pulled, but I agree that once it is pulled there would be a lot more running, hiding and casualty figures needed.

Still at least we can laugh that the zombies are listed as United States figures!

panzergator · Post by **panzergator** » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:40 am

One COULD play as a REFORGER excercise, rather than actual war. There were always plenty of civil and hanging around units when halted.

Otherwise, I see no use for them.

CG2 · Post by **CG2** » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:58 am

They made a zombie pack. Personally I wonder how many of those they sold but I'm pretty sure a civilian pack would sell better! I can certainly see any number of scenarios where civilians need to be rescued or western forces need to minimise civilian while evil enemy forces happily shoot straight through them or run them over with their tanks.

CG2 · Post by **CG2** » Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:01 pm

Looking at the latest list, it occurred to me that some of the entries could be defined a little tighter so I thought we might pick some of the more likely candidates and refine them a little further.

For example : 508 CM Coloniale staff car & radio truck/office body

The questions that occur to me are :

- The Italians did not just fight in the desert and at least 1 person has previously shown interest in non-desert italian forces so do you want the staff car with the hood up or as an open top?

- Which radio truck do people want? The Dovunque Viberti seems to be the most common but it is hideously ugly (in my view!) but there were numerous Ceirano, Fiat & Lancia officebody conversions. Does anyone have any strong views on which one they would like?

BenfromBrooklyn · Post by **BenfromBrooklyn** » Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:00 pm

CG2 wrote: I can certainly see any number of scenarios where civilians need to be rescued or western forces need to minimise civilian while evil enemy forces happily shoot straight through them or run them over with their tanks.

"Prague Uprising, 1968"

Czechoslovakian Player: Western Civilians

Soviet Player: T54 and T55 Tanks. ASU-57 Assault guns, BTR-152 and BTR-50 APC's, Infantry, BRDM-1 scout cars.

Terrain: Urban

Special Rules: Whenever a Soviet stand approaches within 1" of another Soviet stand, roll 2 dice. On a 3-4, the moving unit is suppressed. On a 5, the other unit is suppressed. On a 2, the moving unit is lost.**

Victory Conditions: The Czechoslovakian Player gets a point for each civilian unit surviving after 10 turns, but automatically loses the game anyway after 10 turns.

**The Czech government issued orders not to resist the Red Army. Virtually all of the Soviet casualties were from accidents.

BurtWolf · Post by **BurtWolf** » Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:35 am

For Italian command pack- I really do like the Fiat 508, and it simply could have a removable roof so you could app to have it either way just like in other models. Believe it or not I like the Devonque radio van, not too sure what other options are out there, at least I can find much on my Internet search. Another potential command vehicle that I like that would work I believe in several theaters would be the a543.

madman · Post by **madman** » Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:23 am

Devonque radio van

I tried looking for this and got lots of hits for some radio personality named "van" a mix of pics, non of which seemed correct but lots of shots of VW camper vans. Links anyone? Thank you.

BurtWolf · Post by **BurtWolf** » Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:24 am

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/514395588675462386/

This is the Devonque I saw.

In google I searched with â€œItalian ww2 radio vanâ€

BurtWolf · Post by **BurtWolf** » Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:30 am

In Italian (this forum link) so not completely sure on this (I see the word radio quite a bit though) - has some really cool photos and potential vehicles for the Italian command pack:

http://crosem.altervista.org/forum/view ... f=43&t=500

panzergator · Post by **panzergator** » Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:32 am

Civilians often clogged MSRs and other roads useful for retreating and advancing columns, impeding advance, retreat, and logistics.

CG2 · Post by **CG2** » Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:59 pm

The Italian site seems to be saying that their radio trucks looked exactly like normal trucks although they had an aerial on the roof (which even I could add!). The a543 is a great vehicle but I'm not sure it is sufficiently different from the SPA TL in the artillery packs.

The Dovunque Viberti looks to be a higher level dedicated vehicle and the lower level formations could use normal trucks with aerials fitted. On that basis would a 4:1 508 vs Dovunque Viberti ratio make sense or do people want more for workshop vans etc?

panzergator · Post by **panzergator** » Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:23 am

Ultra modern... US Bobcats - the mini earth movers. Tracked or wheeled. For engineers and infantry support, with M2 50 cals, grenade launchers, AT missiles.

7.62 · Post by **7.62** » Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:40 am

panzergator wrote:Ultra modern... US Bobcats - the mini earth movers. Tracked or wheeled. For engineers and infantry support.

Never considered those (smaller Bobcats) but just about all Military's now use Material handlers. basically 4X4 cross country fork lifts.
I could go for a few of them!

BurtWolf · Post by **BurtWolf** » Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:20 am

On the Italians, Iâ€™d probably forgo the radio van. Iâ€™d be more interested in a combo of Fiat 508s (x2) and Fiat Topolino with trailers (x3):

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery ... 2674034/?p

Iâ€™d love additional truck selections but thatâ€™s just getting greedy. The armored Lancia or Fiat trucks are pretty interesting as well.

CG2 · Post by **CG2** » Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:32 pm

Hi Panzergator - do you have a link to which type of bobcat you want? There are quite a lot of variants.