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predator06
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Post by predator06 »

Ok that fixes it.

I Quit.

There is no way I can compete with the Quality of painting I Have Witnessed on this web sight.

After seeing Miffsters work,, I might as well just be useing tweezers to dip my figs in common House paint.

Who could possably ever hope to compete with that? :x
Enjoy the war,

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Post by hunyadi »

compete is the wrong word mate. As I see it there's no competition running here and our skills are all relative.

These guys are showing you their best work - it's possibly taken them years of practice working with the materials to get to this point. And I'd be surprised if they weren't still learning.

I've always used other people's work as inspiration for trying to learn something new each time :D


predator06 wrote:Ok that fixes it.

I Quit.

There is no way I can compete with the Quality of painting I Have Witnessed on this web sight.

After seeing Miffsters work,, I might as well just be useing tweezers to dip my figs in common House paint.

Who could possably ever hope to compete with that? :x

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Post by miffster »

Predator06

Hunyadi is right, and he put it better than I could have done. There's no competition here. Just a bunch of like minded guys sharing what they get up to. I've been at this game, on and off, for nearly 25 years now, and have had the privilige to meet, and learn from, some world class modellers in all disciplines. The only people I "talk" to about what I do these days are the guys on this forum, and I am learning new techniques and seeing inspirational things all the time. Ask the questions. Everyone here is more than happy to share their wisdom.

Troy

That mine clearer is awesome!! Push that envelope!! Good words as well. Have you got the other three done yet? Are they painted? You know, you have got me all excited and checking every other hour to see them!

And some more secenery from me.

The fence is from plastic strip. I dragged the corner of a rectangular needle file along the strip before I cut to add the wood grain on the planks.

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I just like this photo. Somehow all stuff in the background reminded me of sunlight breaking through early morning mist, and maybe trees.

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Post by BattlerBritain »

Finally got around to taking some pictures of my stuff.

Setup a Prokhorovka engagement with GHQ Tiger IEs and PzIIIJ's fending a mass of T-34/76s, T-70s and SU-152s.

My camera needs updating by the looks of it. I've only got a 2Mega-pixel Fuji with x6 optical zoom.

Anyway, try these:
1) Some Adler SS troops hold on to a Russion village supported by GHQ Sdkfz251's and Adler MMG + 81mm Mortars
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/ ... CF0020.jpg
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2) Overview of the battlefield:
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3) T-34s 'like rats across the playing field':
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4) Heroics Sturmoviks cruise over the battlefield as GHQ Tigers engage T-34s at close range:
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Terrain is a sheet of green felt with brown felt for roads, dark green felt for woods bases. Trees are railway scenic trees glued to card/plastic card hex bases and flocked. Infantry bases are plastic card cut to 25mm by 12.5mm painted grass green+mud and flocked.

Rules I use are Fire and Fury Battlefront but I use 1 tank model represents 1 tank whereas the rules use 1 tank model represents 2 tanks. Fits in with lots of other rulesets that way as well :-)

Cheers,

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Lets see if the image-thingy works....

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2) Overview of the battlefield:
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3) T-34s 'like rats across the playing field':
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4) Heroics Sturmoviks cruise over the battlefield as GHQ Tigers engage T-34s at close range:
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Of Course its not a competition.

Post by predator06 »

Of Course I know its not a competition!

That post was intended as a bit of flattery. A Complement to the work people have posted On this sight, With a Small bit of my rather admitedly strange sence of humor mixed in.

:shock: Useing tweezers to "dip figures in common housepaint"? :shock:

Comon guys! :roll:

I was just "that impressed" with your work miffster. I mean, Its Incredable. Museum Quality stuff, that makes mine look like something I did in 1st grade art class. And Ive ben painting minitures on and off for 20 years.


Its like this show I saw on Ripleys believe it or not yesterday, where this guy in England lowers his heart rate, stops Breathing for up to 4 minutes, and remains Perfectly still. And then produces a wood carveing of a Camel that fits in the eye of a needle. useing a Scalpel and his NEKED EYE. and the rest of us need a Micro scope just to see it!

I Cant Imagine what Your Games must look like.

Good show. :!:
Enjoy the war,

Because the Peace Is going to be hell!

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Post by HMSDiomede »

That's all right, Predator06. I used to think my stuff looked pretty good until I started hanging around this forum. Some of these guys are a really hard act to follow. :lol:

David

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Post by predator06 »

Ya, I Get lots of "oohs" and 'ahhs" on my stuff to. And I Used to think I was good to untill I saw Mifsters stuff.

I Mean, Gawd! I Would be afraid to Use those figs in an actual game for fear of damaging them in some way.

That panther is awesome.
Enjoy the war,

Because the Peace Is going to be hell!

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Post by GMills »

Jeez,
Looking at all these beautuful painted minitures playing on crappy-looking terrain. My miniatures are crappy-looking playing on beautiful terrain. Someday guys, we in this hobby have to get both parts together and upgraded. I paint so poorly that I pay others to paint my figures. But my terrain boards are great.
Back at Origins 2 in Cherry Hill NJ I brought a set of terain boards to run a game on. They wouldn't let me in. I snuck-in during lunch and set up the boards 6x26ft When they came back I had every person in the hall playing on my boards. No one was playing anything else. Thought the next year there'd be competition, NO. Every year since thought there'd be better terrain, NO. The miniatures look great, I want to see them in action on great terrain boards not just diaramas.

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Post by Mk 1 »

GMills wrote:Jeez,
Looking at all these beautuful painted minitures playing on crappy-looking terrain. My
miniatures are crappy-looking playing on beautiful terrain. Someday guys, we in this
hobby have to get both parts together and upgraded.
BattlerB, yer models look GREAT. Very nicely done. I don't mind the terrain at all. I also
do felt cloth battle-boards.

But ...

Y'know, Gary DOES have a point. One of the reasons I had so much fun gaming this
past year was the very good terrain boards that Thunder had made. My own skills with
the models have improved much, but putting them on his boards just added that much
more to our games. And C.G. Erickson's boards AND figs are just magnificent, and make
for a wonderfull gaming experience.

Still there is something to be said for felt cloth. It can serve well, for those who don't
have room to play (or store!) terrain boards, or who have other reasons for not doing
them (like focussing time on the models). In my own case, as much fun as I've had on
Thunder and C.G's boards, I also recognize the limitations they impose. Most importantly
to me, there are only a limited amount of terrain variations that can be achieved with any
given set of boards.

As an example of what can be done with felt, I submit my own Kursk battle from one of
the Fall con's. I hope I don't bore y'all, as I had posted some of this before...

First, the battle maps. Here is the German CO's orders map:
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This was provided before the battle day to each CO (the Soviet CO got the same map,
but different orders of course).

Here is the CO's battle map, provided on game day :
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The game took place along the northwest banks of the Psel river valley. It was up to the
players to determine where they were on the map from observing the terrain.

Note that most of the roads do not appear on the maps. I had an actual survey map of
the Prokhorovka area to guide me in preparing the maps and the battleboard. But neither
side got the gamemaster's map with all the details of hamlets and dirt roads. That was in
keeping with the tradition of poor maps in the Soviet Union.

Here is the felt-cloth battleboard early in the game, looking SW from Polyezhaev. Most
of the units on the board are still chits at this point:
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German armor makes a dash for the Mikhajlovka bridge:
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Tigers march boldly down the north slope of hill 226.6:
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... and take up hull-down postions to face the flood of T-34s:
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A look at the whole battleboard, seen from N to S:
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Closest to the camera, two full battalions of T-34s prepare to rush the depleted Tiger
company, as a company of Pz IIIs marching to their aid just crests hill 226.6. Meanwhile
in the distance along the Psel a company of Pz IVs battles it out with a battalion each of
T-34s and T-70s. All the while, the Soviet infantry and AT guns (all still chits)
have the good sense to sit tight in and around Polyazhaev.

My preparation time would have gone up by a factor of 5 or 10 to have made
battleboards for this particular clash. Or I would not have been able to go 'historical" to
the extent I did.

I think there is room for both battleboards and felt cloth. No doubt, better-looking is fun,
both for models and terrain. But flexibility is fun too, and deep historical is fun as well.

Oh, and Gary, I'll be happy to play on YOUR boards any day!*

-Mark 1

*Well, any day we find ourselves in the same state, perhaps... :P
-Mark 1
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Post by Hauptmann6 »

Ritter. Most excellent painting guide.

One question, why turpentine and not mineral spirts?

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Post by BattlerBritain »

Cheers Mark 1,

Thanks for the nice comments.

Yes, ideally, we'd all like to play with great painted figures and diorama quality terrain. As noted above, there are pro's and cons for both terrain boards and felt cloth.

For my photo's above I just wanted to get some pictures of my figures and post them in this thread. Even my wife said "Hey, that terrain looks a bit bland". I only had about 2 hours to set this up, shoot the piccies then pack it all away whilst the kids were asleep. In a normal game I'd spend about a day setting the terrain up. But I'll hopefully get some better pictures in a few weeks when a friend with a decent camera comes to stay.

And he's a Tiger fanatic!!

Also, I've been using that same map from the Kursk website for my Kursk battles.

Cheers,

Battler

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