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Post by panzergator »

Passage of lines was what I was looking for. Your answer was more extensive.

It's a good question. I don't really remember why the difference. I don't look this up -I just go from my shriveled, wrinkled, shakey old memory.
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CavDog
TOW question, ground firing unit were typically at a lower height, so would have less ability to see/target over 3000 meters. An attack helicopter would typically be a bit higher, having slightly longer ability to target and track. Might fire from over trees or a house, 20-30 feet higher.
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"Crossing the T" is advantageous because it allows the greatest number of your guns to fire at the enemy while only the forward-mounted guns of the enemy can fire back. Classic examples are Battle of Tsushima (Japanese decisive victory), Jutland (Germans escaped by a narrow margin) and Suriago Strait (USN decisive victory).

During the Battle of Jutland, Vice Admiral David Richard Beatty, after having seen two of the ships under command (HMS Indefatigable and HMS Queen Mary) destroyed and being told (incorrectly) that a third (HMS Princess Royal) had exploded, said to his flag captain, "Chatfield, there seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today."

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Donald, you are good. What do they think these days WAS the problem with their bloody ships that day?
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Post by Donald M. Scheef »

What WAS wrong with the bloody ships that day? No one is absolutely certain. The general consensus today is that efforts to maximize rate of fire led to shortcutting barriers against flame propagation along the powder supply paths. If so, any penetration of turret armour or an error within the turret is likely to lead to magazine explosion. It's also possible that the deck armour was just too thin.

New question about naval terminology:
What is the significance of being sent to get six feet of waterline or a quart of relative bearing grease?

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Donald, that is what I have read. .

Your terms .mean that the person being directed to retrieve such things is GRRREEEEENNN. New. Wild goose chase.

When I arrived in my first unit, one of the drill sergeants tried that on me. "Sir, you will be the safety officer, so it's your responsibility to bring the range line. Now, I was a third-generation army brat. I went to the supply room and got the heaviest loop of rope I could find. Walking back to the formation, I heaved
it over to him, telling him, "Here it is. I will be running the road guards, so you will have to carry it out, and he would carry it back, as well. We were marching out to the ranges that day. Not much he could say. There were no more attempts at "f* *king with the El-Tee"
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On that note, explain the use, construction, and what additional tools are needed to employ the gin tube wrench.

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Post by redleg »

I'm googling like a champ, but I'm not finding many of these. Here are my guesses at some of the unanswered questions.

An H series mech battalion had 6 mortar tubes.

Atomic Annie operated as a single gun.

7th crew member in a British artillery crew is responsible for scooping up the horse poo

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Redleg,

You are wrong on all three counts, but the last one is related.
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Post by Cav Dog »

H series mech bn had 9, three is each company. Later in J series, they turned in their company level 81s and got 6 battalion level 4.2s.

Still incorrect on the TOW question.
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You are correct. The H series mech battalion did have 9 81mm mortars - three in each company. However, it also had 4 4.2 in mortars in the battalion mortar platoon, for a total of 13. In the J series, they gave up the 81s and got 2 additional 4.2s.
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Post by Cav Dog »

OK hint on the TOW question - the answer is in the name.

Chris had the reason for wanting to extend the range but not how it was done.
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The wire was longer.
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The wire was longer.

There are still unanswered questions on the previous pages.
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Post by Cav Dog »

Correct, Hughes engineers determined that they could extend the range by adding more wire to the spool. Based on engine burnout they couldn't add more than an additional 750m. They then ran into a problem with the flight characteristics, once the engine burned out, the missile would take a more nose high attitude at extreme range as the gunner tried to keep it on target resulting in the missile hitting the target at a less than optimal angle and the warhead would frequently either fail to explode or be ineffectual if it did.
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